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I think most of the walkers would probably be a bag of hot goo by now. Unless all the events that have taken place over the whole series have taken place in a span of two weeks. Most walkers should be pretty much toothless by now and little to no muscle strength in their upper jaw. But, as with many zombie related plots, we have to suspend our disbelief and assume that zombie-fying turns your teeth and jaws into something akin to a great white shark.

Most zombie movies are way off anatomically speaking.

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In all fairness, Breaking Bad had a lot of the same formulas with having Walter and Jesse in some sort of inescapable peril. The difference was that Breaking Bad is much more of a character-driven show. In addition the premise was really unique.

I really don't know how a series about the apocalypse could be truly sustainable for multiple seasons. I think that's why TWD falls into the same trope after trope. There's not really much that can be done except: Zombies-Safety-Threat-Zombies-Seek safety elsewhere.


Well, I've been playing twd games and they are far more interesting than the actual tv show, that must be because the games are not nearly as long... there are only 5 episodes each season :lol

They could change the formula a little bit, maybe its time for the virus to mutate and change the zombies? make them more dangerous?

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I don't think thats gonna happen though. They should just focus on avoid doing something they have already done in the previous seasons. No more Governors, no more farms, no more prisons
 
There isn't a pathogen in TWD, as far as Kirkman is concerned. It sounds weird, but, the Walkers are just a phenomenon of unknown cause.
 
If anyone has seen the preview, you can see that Maggie is going "dark". She sounds cynical about how long they're going to last. Wouldn't surprise me if she becomes a negative nellie and possibly suicidal.
 
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Daryl is dangerously close to becoming the Legolas of the zombie apocalypse. If he starts telling Rick things like "a blood moon rises" and "a fell voice is on the air" before running across the heads of a walker heard I'm out.
 
Daryl is dangerously close to becoming the Legolas of the zombie apocalypse. If he starts telling Rick things like "a blood moon rises" and "a fell voice is on the air" before running across the heads of a walker heard I'm out.

Don't lie, Khev, you know you be all...

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I think the idea with his fingers brushing teeth for a moment was just a shot at suspense. It pretty much qualified as the same kind of event as the tank situation. If the zombie bit, he'd be infected. It didn't. No flesh broken, no foul.

Those zombies had been napalmed and rotting there for years also. Which also explains how he was able to pull the head off so easily. And his hand was in there for like half a second.

I didn't really care for the latest episode the first time I saw it (and I'm not one who gets bored with TWD easily. It's the show I currently enjoy watching the most), but when I watched it again it kind of grew on me. Like some have posted I thought the whole Tyrese getting bit out of nowhere was a little ridiculous, but seeing it the second time made a little more sense. To me Tyrese just got caught in the moment when seeing those photos and he let his guard down for just a second and that's all it took. He's always been an emotional guy and has proven time and time again he's not good in situations that require the ability to overlook the brutality of the world they live in. Seeing Noah's family murdered (clearly done by the living) threw him off and he got bit because of it. He even knew that there was a walker in the other room.

I will say I think the whole hallucination thing was overdone. I think it takes away a lot of the seriousness of it when you decide to have Beth pushing her struggling music career half the episode. It was just a little to artsy for TWD. There were some pretty good scenes between Rick and crew in between though that get lost in all the dream like sequences. I would've much preferred some scenes showing the 17 day journey they took to get there. Especially after they always made a huge deal over how hard it would be to travel long distances.
 
The 17 day thing was a nice way of skipping the rest of the group's reaction to Eugene and Washington DC. That had to have bugged Rick quite a bit considering he was reluctant to go originally at the church.

You'd also think they'd stick together at all times after being split up from one another at the prison, and later the church. But nah, they just keep breaking up into little factions, increasing their chances of getting separated and killed. I wonder how/why it was decided that Tyreese, Rick, Glenn and Michonne accompany Everyone Hates Chris? You'd think Tyreese/Sasha, Glenn/Maggie, Rick/Carl would be inseparable after the things they've been going through.
 
If anyone has seen the preview, you can see that Maggie is going "dark". She sounds cynical about how long they're going to last. Wouldn't surprise me if she becomes a negative nellie and possibly suicidal.

Yeah I noticed that too.
I've been thinking since Beth died they've been setting up her suicide attempt from the comic. Maybe it won't be just an attempt in the show though. It would be an interesting ark for Glenn.
 
If anyone has seen the preview, you can see that Maggie is going "dark". She sounds cynical about how long they're going to last. Wouldn't surprise me if she becomes a negative nellie and possibly suicidal.

ain't no way suicidal, she got glenn
 
That would certainly make for nice symmetry with what went down in Season 2 when Beth was trying to take her life and Maggie and Lori were against it.
 
The 17 day thing was a nice way of skipping the rest of the group's reaction to Eugene and Washington DC. That had to have bugged Rick quite a bit considering he was reluctant to go originally at the church.

You'd also think they'd stick together at all times after being split up from one another at the prison, and later the church. But nah, they just keep breaking up into little factions, increasing their chances of getting separated and killed. I wonder how/why it was decided that Tyreese, Rick, Glenn and Michonne accompany Everyone Hates Chris? You'd think Tyreese/Sasha, Glenn/Maggie, Rick/Carl would be inseparable after the things they've been going through.

Them splitting like that bugged me too at first, but I think it was smart overall. Carol said they'd come looking for them if they didn't hear back after a certain amount of time. I think it was more of a precaution in case they walked into a Terimnus like situation. Carl and Judith would be safe, while Daryl, Carol, and Abraham would make a strong rescue crew.
 
they no longer seem to try to make us think that "anyone can die but your favorite characters are just lucky that they haven't faced impossible odds yet." You know?

I think that's a cheap thrills way of approaching the show. And when they do follow that model, you get people killed off for shock value. Which is not the same as dramatic value. Beth was not a surprise. They practically told us she was going to die, even going so far as to throw a bold faced diversion like Carol walking in front of a car in a bid to make it less obvious.

But her death had dramatic value for the effect it will have on the characters of Maggie and Daryl (as well as the morale of the group). As has been pointed out, Daryl's arc relating to Carol is fairly well spent. There is no romantic potential there at this point, and Carol has matured to the point where she can mirror Daryl's level of self-sufficiency. Daryl's true point of weakness was Beth and it has been torn wide open. He has managed to achieve a whole lot, but he failed miserably at saving her.

Why? This is why...

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It seems like they've strayed from that verisimilitude and kind of throw it in our faces that Rick and especially Daryl are immune while others only are immune until their death would make for good shock or some weird artsy episode. Do you disagree?

Yea, I disagree. It is not realistic to expect Rick or Daryl to be especially in danger (though both still have character traits that could bring them close) at any point or for any reason. Not after what they've got themselves out of thus far. Tyrese was a different story entirely. He was not the same guy who fought off that hoarde any more. The softness that had been growing in him since Lizzie got put down had reached critical mass. It is what got Beth killed. Buying into the reasonability of his counsel while Rick planned the rescue introduced all kinds of options for failure. His moral dilemmas have destroyed his ability to focus on the goal of protection and survival and in the end, it just walked up behind him and bit his ass.

As for how quickly it went to his head, leaving aside the fact that the show runners have made clear that everyone reacts differently, a man that size panicking is not going to be able to keep an infection isolated to a limb without a tourniquet. As for how long he sat there waiting for help, Noah ran to that house. How far they were from where the group separated was not clear, but it was not a brief stroll and the others were foraging multiple houses. It's not a stretch to assume that they covered some distance as well. Ultimately, it didn't matter because he got swarmed and trapped.

As for the greater purpose of the story, what was the theme of the episode? Glenn pointed out how killing Dawn, "didn't matter." Just another death. Beth was a major death, framing the whole episode. By the time the episode is done, Tyrese is dead too, and for not much of a reason. Beth thought it was an important reason; she risked her life for it. But it was ultimately meaningless. Risking life to save life is becoming worse than a zero sum game. Rick was ahead of the curve in that regard. Daryl was already slipping (listening to Tyrese) and even Michonne is getting road weary.

I don't know. What else was wrong with it?
 
Except that Glenn is always going on missions and it's a matter of time before he's killed too.

yea, glenn is doomed to follow comics path and maggie is still a home maker livin in an apocalypse or post apocalypse world as a home maker, hehe where's all those feminist when u need em?

*cough, cough, Mr. Green don't read TWD comics, cough*
 
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