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Monday morning musings on the episode:

- Who thinks Rick killed Pete? He shoots at him, but we don't see the actual shot or the body afterwards. I still tend to think he killed him, but there is the possibility that he missed on purpose or only wounded him. Him being a doctor is one reason to try and keep him around.
- I don't think Glenn was bit. They did that storyline with Bob, so I don't think the writers would go back to that well again.
- Scott Gimple is da man! He has turned this show around from S3.5 and it is firing on all cylinders.
- Morgan should have killed those two Wolves. His new "all life is precious" philosophy is going to be challenged by Rick and his group. I can see Rick and Morgan clashing over their different views on this subject next season.
- Daryl decapitating those three walkers with the metal chain was vintage Nicotero. Kill of the season for me. The top of one of the heads stuck to the side of the truck was an especially nice touch.
- Father Gabriel is one character I doubt I will ever like. I understand he is going through a tough time and almost opted out. If that is what you want to do, then fine. I have a problem with him (and people in real life) who decide they want to take people with them before they go. He was too much of a coward to do it himself, so he tried to get Sasha to do it for him, but not before he left the front gate open and put everyone at risk! I was really hoping a could put another red "X" over his picture on my signature.
- The Wolves "W" looked like it was drawn on their foreheads, while their victims had the "W" carved in the foreheads. Must be their calling card.
- Carol. I remember her from the beginning as a mousy, house wife. Strictly a background character who I was sure was eventual walker chow. She started to show her strength when she insisted on being the one to bury Ed and she beat his corpse to a pulp in the process. After Sophia's death, she began to harden herself to the world she was trying to survive in. She started to hold her own in S3 and managed to survive in the prison alone for a couple days. She started to show her real world pragmatism when she suggested to Andrea to kill the Governor in his sleep. S4 she made the executive decision to kill Karen and David in an attempt to stop the sickness from spreading. She was exiled, survived on her own and met up with Tyreese and the girls after the prison fell. She had to kill Lizzie (one of the most heart wrenching episodes in the series). S5 she channels Rambo and rescues the group from the Termites. Now in Alexandria, she plays the role of happy home maker to provide cover for her stealing guns, threatening Pete and becoming one of the people Rick trusts most in the group. She has grown from a background character that I could care less about to one of my favorite characters on the show. That is a testament to the strong acting skills of MMcB and the strong writing skills of the writers of this show.
 
that summed it up..

what I found strange is.. Rick found the open gate in daylight.. and to another second it was pitch dark....
 
that summed it up..

what I found strange is.. Rick found the open gate in daylight.. and to another second it was pitch dark....

He found the gate open late afternoon/dusk. I could see it taking him 30 minutes or so to search for the Walker. Plenty of time to go from light to dark.
 
It would make no sense if Pete is still alive. Deanna told Rick to "do it" and without hesitation, Rick shoots him in the head. Morgan witnesses this account upon first arrival and is rather in shock to see it.


Aaron told Daryl that there were 3 people they banished from the group. Two men and a woman, who were taken 50 miles away from Alexandria. I imagine these 3 people are the Wolves and we haven't seen the woman as of yet.

Morgan letting those Wolves live is going to come back to bite him. He knows that they go around killing people and setting traps, yet he just knocks them out an puts them in a car? He was just lucky that gun was empty, otherwise he was a goner.

Glenn is too good for his own sake sometimes. Gets shot, has a few Walkers set on him and yet he still helps the guy get back home.

Loved Carol's confrontation with Pete. I've really enjoyed her character arc this season. I have missed her interactions with Daryl though. I hope we have some a lot more scenes with them next season. I guess it's time for her to break off the housewife and show them how strong she actually is.


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I think that Nicholas was spy for the wolves. That's why he was sneaking out after Deanna told him not to. He was going back and telling them about life in Alexandria in an attemp for them to take it over. The problem was Rick and his crew coming in. Nicholas knows with them there the wolves are going to have a hard time. Glenn found him before Nicholas could report back. Next season it will all come out leading to a gun battle over Alexandria.
 
In season 6 we'll learn how Morgan hooked up with Jackie Chan to learn how to fight with a pole. I mean, WTF!

I think he learned the same way Splinter did in that crapfest of a TMNT movie....he found a karate book on the ground and after reading it and looking at the little pictures he became a master of martial arts.
 
Fantastic finale!
It was really satisfying, not ending on a terribly bleak note, neither on an impossibly happy one.
I think Deanna's vengeful "do it" will come back to haunt Alexandria. Hopefully Morgan can bring back some humanity to Rick, the man's on a dark path.
 
Yeah, without some morality checks I can see Rick turning into a version of the Govenor.

Nah, I don't see Rick turning into the Governor. I am curious as to why people think Morgan holds so much influence over Rick. I think Rick feels a certain amount of obligation to him for saving him in S1, but other than that I don't see him holding Morgan in higher regard than he does Michonne, Daryl, Carol, Glenn and Abraham. Those are the people who he has lived with and survived with for the past months/years. They are his family, not Morgan. That is not to say that Morgan won't become part of Rick's "family", but he is going to have to "earn" it. IMO, it is Morgan who needs to harden up. Him not killing those Wolves is going to come back to haunt him.
 
I think that Nicholas was spy for the wolves. That's why he was sneaking out after Deanna told him not to. He was going back and telling them about life in Alexandria in an attemp for them to take it over. The problem was Rick and his crew coming in. Nicholas knows with them there the wolves are going to have a hard time. Glenn found him before Nicholas could report back. Next season it will all come out leading to a gun battle over Alexandria.

Nick set Glenn up. He planned to kill him. He made sure Glenn saw him climb the fence. Glenn had told him not to go outside the fence any more and Nick knew he'd follow. Glenn should've killed him. Another mistake to come back and haunt them next season.
 
Nick set Glenn up. He planned to kill him. He made sure Glenn saw him climb the fence. Glenn had told him not to go outside the fence any more and Nick knew he'd follow. Glenn should've killed him. Another mistake to come back and haunt them next season.

I don't know. Luring someone out into the woods to murder them seems like a very "get your hands dirty" approach for Nicolas which seems inconsistent with his cowardly nature.
 
It would make no sense if Pete is still alive. Deanna told Rick to "do it" and without hesitation, Rick shoots him in the head. Morgan witnesses this account upon first arrival and is rather in shock to see it.


Aaron told Daryl that there were 3 people they banished from the group. Two men and a woman, who were taken 50 miles away from Alexandria. I imagine these 3 people are the Wolves and we haven't seen the woman as of yet.

Morgan letting those Wolves live is going to come back to bite him. He knows that they go around killing people and setting traps, yet he just knocks them out an puts them in a car? He was just lucky that gun was empty, otherwise he was a goner.

Glenn is too good for his own sake sometimes. Gets shot, has a few Walkers set on him and yet he still helps the guy get back home.

Loved Carol's confrontation with Pete. I've really enjoyed her character arc this season. I have missed her interactions with Daryl though. I hope we have some a lot more scenes with them next season. I guess it's time for her to break off the housewife and show them how strong she actually is.


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Agreed on all points.

Pete is DEAD! Rick was ready to gun him down that episode when he was walking down the sidewalk with Jessie and he reached back for his pistol. The look on Morgan's face confirms it. And if Rick missed intentionally, then what's the point of his dialogue for the past few episodes? He's been preaching the necessity to be this aggressive.

They've constantly put Morgan on the backburner. Teasing his story here and there. It's been, what... 2 seasons now where he's popped in and out? I'm anticipating his role to be much more involved in S6, becoming a key character in the group. Otherwise, that's really lame of the writer's to build him up in the way they have.
 
Nick set Glenn up. He planned to kill him. He made sure Glenn saw him climb the fence. Glenn had told him not to go outside the fence any more and Nick knew he'd follow. Glenn should've killed him. Another mistake to come back and haunt them next season.

I don't know. Luring someone out into the woods to murder them seems like a very "get your hands dirty" approach for Nicolas which seems inconsistent with his cowardly nature.

yea, he's a real coward for sure. the guy even cry when glen placed a gun to his head
 
Seems like the Wolves are indeed the group that was banished from Alexandria. Three people? I guess we'll find out how big they've become. Aaron mentioned how "really smart" one of them happens to be. Just another indication how much trouble Alexandria is going to have next season. Looking forward to it.

I know how much hate there is for Father Gabriel. I dislike him as well. However, I'm guessing he's going to hit a turning point very soon and become adept at killing just like the core group. We've all seen it before... in comics, movies, and even in video games, where a man of the cloth is also a skilled fighter/killer. Just like the writers have done with Carol, I hope to see done with Gabriel.
 
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