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[Jokes & Bats]

It was "REAL"? Come down from lala land.

I think Endosickness is saying it can mirror real acts we are seeing on the news - making it more powerful and upsetting.

 

[pixletwin]

I think Endosickness is saying it can mirror real acts we are seeing on the news - making it more powerful and upsetting.

Yes. The bubble-wrap mentality. I understood.

 

[Jokes & Bats]

Yes. The bubble-wrap mentality. I understood.

Then why tell him to come down from la-la land? Do you not think your words or your tone are hurtful?

Why not discuss the idea in question rather than taking a swipe at the person saying it.

 

[EVILFACE]

It was "REAL"? Come down from lala land. .

Real? When Coral ate that big 'ol can of chocolate pudding and didn't get the squirts, reality on this show went right out the window.

 

[pixletwin]

Then why tell him to come down from la-la land? Do you not think your words or your tone are hurtful?

Why not discuss the idea in question rather than taking a swipe at the person saying it.

Telling someone to come down from la-la land is hurtful? Oh my.

 

[pixletwin]

Real? When Coral ate that big 'ol can of chocolate pudding and didn't get the squirts, reality on this show went right out the window.

 

[pixletwin]

I think Endosickness is saying it can mirror real acts we are seeing on the news - making it more powerful and upsetting.

I would also say that making it "powerful and upsetting" was precisely what the show intended it to be. But it's all within the context that it's just a TV show.

 

[EndoSickness]

Naive? Well at least I´m not impudent and call a person I don´t know naive, how bout that?

Clearly you haven´t been reading my posts correctly, otherwise you would´ve seen and accepted that I ave nothing against the violence.
It´s the walking dead, for ****´s sake, but it´s getting into people´s heads.
What´s so hard about it?
You just stand perfectly in line with the un-empathetic.
And I use caps to give more weight the words, same way as one want´s to express something and turns louder at particular words.
Where´s your problem with that?

And why do I label people as un-empathetic?
Because otherwise people here would understand how traumatic it can be and not say:
"Oh, come on. A little blood and guts don´t hurt nobody" while ommitig the fact the scene channels psychological stuff.

If you are able to watch that and not twitch with even ONE fibre of your face, then...

complete the sentence yourself.

 

[rushmore223]

I think the upsetting part for most was not solely the act of violence itself, but seeing Glenn, popped out eye and split open skull, trying to talk to Maggie, and at the same time being mocked by the most extreme version of the school yard bully. Between the acting and practical effects, it looked and felt very real, moreso than anything I've seen on TWD before. Previously the violence had a cartoonish/unrealistic quality that always made it clear it was fantasy.

I'm not incensed by this, nor will I stop watching, but I will admit that the scene with Glenn was the first time it was actually difficult to look at the screen.

 

[pixletwin]

Complete the sentence yourself.

Ask and you shall receive. (kind of ironic thats the one place you should've used a CAP but didn't.)

The rest of your post is pretty much a laugh. You tell me I have no right to point out your naivete because I don't know you, yet you feel you have every right to call others as having no empathy. Here is one more adjective I will apply to your post: hypocritical.

 

[screamingmetal]

It's not the gore and violence, it's the sum total of that episode. It came down to an hour of psychologically and physically torturing people, and it didn't sit well with me.

 

[pixletwin]

I'm not incensed by this, nor will I stop watching, but I will admit that the scene with Glenn was the first time it was actually difficult to look at the screen.

This. You have summed up my position perfectly as well. This is exactly what the artists who work on this show intended.

 

[screamingmetal]

The rest of your post is pretty much a laugh. You tell me I have no right to point out your naivete because I don't know you, yet you feel you have every right to call others as having no empathy. Here is one more adjective I will apply to your post: hypocritical.

I do agree that some of what Endosickness has said does come off as insulting. Saying someone lacks empathy can sound like you're saying someone is a psychopath and that can feel insulting. Maybe it's a language barrier type of thing.

 

[Khev]

No personal attacks guys or the thread will have to be closed for a couple of days.

Also a reminder to those who didn't like the episode that you can express your feelings as long as they are courteous and respectful. Don't belabor the issue and "crap" on the thread repeatedly especially if others are trying to continue a discussion about what they liked.

 

[EndoSickness]

I'm not insulting, or attacking anyone.
I made my point perfectly clear. I think I don't have the problem of a language barrier.
I have the opinion that if people don't get that this episode is psychologically tormenting and actually not get that seeing Glenn this way...are, to me, unempathetic.
If you don't see it that way...then you have problems, in my book.

And I am not hypocritical as I am calling no one anything. I have the opinion.
You, pixletwin call me out on that, which I didn't do...yet do nothing better and call me words.
Which means you are hypocritical.

 

[pixletwin]

Interesting.

 

[crows]

Honestly, all this outrage is sensationalist bull****. Let's talk about REAL ****. ISIS chops people's heads off and posts that **** on the internet. That's real. That happens. And yet, when the Governor lobbed Hershel's noggin off his neck, I didn't see anywhere near this much outrage. There were reaction videos, but there weren't parents groups going nuts about it. ****, Gotham has severed heads all the time and that's a Batman show that children are way more likely to watch than this. It's in an earlier time slot, is not rated TV-MA and does not provide disclaimers for audiences who might, potentially, be offended. At least, I don't think so. So, again, where's the outrage?

I don´t watch Gotham. I don´t know that.
And for ****´s sake...don´t get political, man.
Never did I ignore ISIS, I just didn´t bring it up.
I just mentioned the real pain of something you can a grip on, that is that people getting there heads kicked in at a train station happens on a daily basis.
In my country, that is.
It´s more palpable that ISIS. ISIS is not gone, TWD just showed what can happen to someone you love...15 minutes after they left the house, for example.

It´s the psychological thing, not the physical. You guys get that?

I supposse my rep point came from Jokes&Bats: Anytime, brother.

WTH?
You still argue with the point of physical violence.
Do you not want to get the point of the problem being the psychological side, or do you just decide to block that fact?
Everyone expected that, but you actually SEE a loved one getting bludgeoned.
This triggers thoughts and fears.
You get that?

It's funny that this thread somehow feels like a political debate now, with folks saying how they can't understand how someone thinks differently than they do. Live and let live fellas. I agree that this episode was different than the violence that came before, due to Glenn's involvement, the buildup, and the way everyone had to look on helplessly. So, I do understand why this would affect people in ways other deaths hadn't.



Don't worry though, I'm sure she'll be joining them soon.

I think Endosickness is saying it can mirror real acts we are seeing on the news - making it more powerful and upsetting.

It's not the gore and violence, it's the sum total of that episode. It came down to an hour of psychologically and physically torturing people, and it didn't sit well with me.

You know whats funny about all of this?
The biggest irony?

That we already saw people getting their head bashed with a bat in the past. .... with terminus....
Not only were people hit in the head brutally but their throats were slit.... blood pouring on that metal container....
The group was in a hopeless situation as well.
They didnt know carol was coming to save them. They had no idea....
They were about to die before carol came like rambo and blew up the fences.

The only difference is that in this episode there was no hero to save them. They could have easily die in terminus the exact same way as negan' s death...

So endo talks about the reality of this episode and the reality of the kill and how it was different because it was like real life


But so was terminus. None of the main characters die but 3 or 4 extras DID get their head bashed and throat cut.
How come the parent counsel group was not angry at that?
Im just saying, those terminus kills were just as horrible. Yet no outrage
The terminus kills did resemble isis videos..

 

[Centurion]

Time to temporarily lock this up and let the thread cool down for a while.

I'll see y'all in the new thread that opens up.

 

[hoodonit00]

I think Endosickness is saying it can mirror real acts we are seeing on the news - making it more powerful and upsetting.

Maybe so. Does that mean we censor everything because it may upset someone?

 

[hoodonit00]

Telling someone to come down from la-la land is hurtful? Oh my.

Lotsa feelz in this thread. This is the world we live in now. Everyone needs a safe zone. If it were up to me I would show all the tragic events happening in the world right now all over the news. People need to know the truth.