The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Comic and Un-aired Spoilers unwelcome!)

[CelticPredator]

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Sure. But it's not like you've never not told someone the whole ordeal.

I mean, here's what would've happened.

Shane tells Lori-

"He was in the bed, all hooked up, and the walkers were trying to bust in. I couldn't do anything. I didn't know if I could pulled any plugs. He might have died. I'm sorry Lori."

"OMG I HATE YOU."

And then we'll be back to crazy Shane. Only this time, he'll have no one to blame.

 

[devilof76]

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[CelticPredator]

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[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GJ9etX00xc[/ame]

What did he do wrong?

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

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How? Dude is in a coma, zombies everywhere....he's meat.

What could Shane have done? If he took him off the machines, he could've died. He didn't know.

Shane did nothing wrong there. Nothing wrong at all.

shane left him for dead & lied to lori that walkers got him

 

[Mister Ski]

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Devil hearts Lori.

See what Glen Mazzara says about Lori. Spoilers only if you haven't seen last night's episode in the link below...

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https://www.tvguide.com/News/Walking-Dead-Glen-Mazzara-Spoilers-1043562.aspx

 

[Mister Ski]

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I think the character change for Rick is not that he's becoming more comfortable with killing or morally ambiguous, it's that it seems he's finally coming to accept that Shane might be a danger to the group. He's been hanging onto that friendship and and I think now he's finally starting to accept that the Shane he knew is gone.

I mean when your risk lives to save a guy that was trying to kill you so you can put your group in potential danger and waste more food and medical supplies, I don't see that much change in Rick in that regard.

So you admit Rick is changing.

Not for the reason you state though. Rick said it in last night's episode. He will do whatever it takes to keep his family safe. That is how he is changing. Lori just used that admission to plant the seeds of Shane's demise in Rick's head. Calculating beeyotch.

 

[OSCORP]

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4 left!!!!!!!!!

 

[Darth Snoopy]

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I think the character change for Rick is not that he's becoming more comfortable with killing or morally ambiguous, it's that it seems he's finally coming to accept that Shane might be a danger to the group. He's been hanging onto that friendship and and I think now he's finally starting to accept that the Shane he knew is gone.

I mean when your risk lives to save a guy that was trying to kill you so you can put your group in potential danger and waste more food and medical supplies, I don't see that much change in Rick in that regard.

Agreed on all comments. Like I said earlier, Rick has changed but not to the point that Shane has.

Great episode tonight.
The interaction between Carol & Daryl was pretty good.

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Carol trying to get Daryl as part of the group and Daryl showing up all dressed up.

Made me smile.

The interaction between Carol & Daryl was great and revealed a lot.

shane left him for dead & lied to lori that walkers got him

Devil hearts Lori.

See what Glen Mazzara says about Lori. Spoilers only if you haven't seen last night's episode in the link below...

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https://www.tvguide.com/News/Walking-Dead-Glen-Mazzara-Spoilers-1043562.aspx

Nice article!

 

[greygoose]

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I do agree with this, though. She's cooking something up, that's for sure. That whole scene was a bit unnerving.

This thought never crossed my mind but since you guys have mentioned it it's got me thinking.

Enjoyed the latest episode alot.

 

[Michael Crawford]

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Shane only cares about Shane - he's not there for the group. Andrea will eventually figure that out.

He's the worst sort of person to have around you, because he isn't predictable. He operates only under whatever is his agenda. Sometimes, that agenda coincides with yours and he seems like a good guy. Other times, it doesn't and he seems like a bad guy. Unless you understand his agenda, he's not predictable, which makes him a liablity to you. Lori in trouble? Let's rush off into the dark alone looking for her. Herchel, Rick and Glenn in trouble? Yea, that can wait til tomorrow sometime. Let's have dinner!

This was one of my least favorite episodes this season. While it's nice to have some zombie action, I didn't care for most of the scenes. Herschel was right - pop the kid, it's the most humane. Didn't like whiney Glenn talking to Maggie. But I did like the Herschel/Shane scene, and it's nice to see both Lori and Rick coming to realize the potential threat of Shane.

I still think Andrea is going to be the one to put him down though. Has to be her or Carl, as they'd be the two most dramaticall messed with in the head by having to do it.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

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Shane only cares about Shane - he's not there for the group. Andrea will eventually figure that out.

He's the worst sort of person to have around you, because he isn't predictable. He operates only under whatever is his agenda. Sometimes, that agenda coincides with yours and he seems like a good guy. Other times, it doesn't and he seems like a bad guy. Unless you understand his agenda, he's not predictable, which makes him a liablity to you. Lori in trouble? Let's rush off into the dark alone looking for her. Herchel, Rick and Glenn in trouble? Yea, that can wait til tomorrow sometime. Let's have dinner!

This was one of my least favorite episodes this season. While it's nice to have some zombie action, I didn't care for most of the scenes. Herschel was right - pop the kid, it's the most humane. Didn't like whiney Glenn talking to Maggie. But I did like the Herschel/Shane scene, and it's nice to see both Lori and Rick coming to realize the potential threat of Shane.

I still think Andrea is going to be the one to put him down though. Has to be her or Carl, as they'd be the two most dramaticall messed with in the head by having to do it.

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after watching this week's episode, I think shane is about to make his exit soon

 

[Darth Snoopy]

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after watching this week's episode, I think shane is about to make his exit soon

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I think so too and I'm wondering if it might be Carl who takes Shane out like in the comic.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

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I think so too and I'm wondering if it might be Carl who takes Shane out like in the comic.

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AMC might do a cop-out on that one since carl's a kid

 

[Darth Snoopy]

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AMC might do a cop-out on that one since carl's a kid

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That would suck if they did, but TWD has gotten away with some violent, gory stuff so far. Having a kid kill a zombie might work but it could be pushing the envelope.

 

[Michael Crawford]

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For dramatic purposes, I think it has to either be Carl or Andrea to take out Shane. The writers are setting it up to seem like it's going to be Rick, but that's way too obvious, and it wouldn't mess with him mentally as much as it would with either Andrea or Carl. It might be Lori too, but Lori is going to have to die next year anyway.

I'm saying that because of the whole pregnant thing. This is a good example of reality vs a tv show - in reality, they should be trying to get pregnant left and right, since there is only survival in numbers. American Settlers had to have 12 kids to get 4 to live to adulthood. That's what they'd have to do here.

But for the writers, a baby is just a huge problem. Not a particularly dramatic character, not much they can do with zombie fights, and something that would be difficult for shooting and producing on film. So yea, I think her being pregnant is pretty much a death sentence on this show. I'm also betting they kill her while she's pregnant - all kinds of potential story lines there. If she's bit at 8 months, is the baby still okay? Could be interesting...

 

[sprig0701]

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That would suck if they did, but TWD has gotten away with some violent, gory stuff so far. Having a kid kill a zombie might work but it could be pushing the envelope.

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If they can have Rick shoot a little girl walker in the head, on two separate occasions, then I don't see why they can't have a kid take someone out.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

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For dramatic purposes, I think it has to either be Carl or Andrea to take out Shane. The writers are setting it up to seem like it's going to be Rick, but that's way too obvious, and it wouldn't mess with him mentally as much as it would with either Andrea or Carl. It might be Lori too, but Lori is going to have to die next year anyway.

I'm saying that because of the whole pregnant thing. This is a good example of reality vs a tv show - in reality, they should be trying to get pregnant left and right, since there is only survival in numbers. American Settlers had to have 12 kids to get 4 to live to adulthood. That's what they'd have to do here.

But for the writers, a baby is just a huge problem. Not a particularly dramatic character, not much they can do with zombie fights, and something that would be difficult for shooting and producing on film. So yea, I think her being pregnant is pretty much a death sentence on this show. I'm also betting they kill her while she's pregnant - all kinds of potential story lines there. If she's bit at 8 months, is the baby still okay? Could be interesting...

Have you ever read the comic?

Edit: Do not read if you haven't read the comic.

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Lori meets a very sad fate along with her newborn baby at the prison.

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If they can have Rick shoot a little girl walker in the head, on two separate occasions, then I don't see why they can't have a kid take someone out.

True, true.

 

[Voorhees27]

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Shane lied and got in her pants. He should be happy he got that much, but he can't because he's a punk.

He keeps pushing her (and blaming it on her, like a punk). She's going to push back. In the end, he'll get what he deserves.

(Is the Nam-baiting blatant enough? )



Of course I do. I don't see this in terms of 'group' survival. I see it in terms of the survival of each person, and Shane (even with the risks Rick and Hershel have been taking) is the biggest threat to each of them. If Shane were leading, it would only be a matter of time before they were like the group associated with the two corpses in the bar, and that's after he weeded out the people who refused to obey his point of view.

The one person who is at greatest risk from Shane is Rick, because Rick stands in the way of what he wants most.

No he did not lie. That part of your argument is false. The rest of your points hold no merit now. You say he lied, you base everything on him just "trying to get in her pants" and you're wrong. If the writers wanted to leave Shane's truth about the hospital as debatable they wouldn't have went out of their way to "prove" Shane's honorable intentions.

If he's a mean person, bad guy, etc etc, it's only because of what his environment has made him. Yeah yeah, I know, Rick has been through just as much and has maintained his humanity, I get it.

Shane's rough around the edges, no doubt but I sure as HELL would want him on my team during an zombie apocalypse. And those that think his intentions are selfish and dangerous to the group obviously haven't been reading in between the lines.

I'm Ron Burgundy.

 

[pixletwin]

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You are forgetting a couple important points. Lori is nigh suicidal. To her Shane's lie (or if you prefer "white lie") was a betrayel because had she stayed behind while Rick was in the hospital it is very likely that she, Carl, and Rick would all be dead - which for her is preferable to the lives they live. Her feeling of betrayal with Shane are almost identical with how Andrea feels about Dave. I believe both feel like the choice to die was taken from them.

 

[steven.giunta]

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They had the preview of next weeks show on the talking dead.it looks like after shane and rick fight,rick is under a walker and with more walkers coming instead of helping rick shane runs and saves his own. A$#%.I think that will be shanes be shanes final strik3e against him.