The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Comic and Un-aired Spoilers unwelcome!)

[Michael Crawford]

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They'd still be sitting outside Atlanta...btw, can you name one thing Shane has done for the group since the show started? I'm seriously asking because other than doing things for Carl and Lori, I can't remember one.

 

[wofford29]

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I don't think Shane got them anywhere. They were in the woods. They didn't move until Rick came. Rick brought all the guns as well so Shane's protection abilities would have run out when whatever ammo he had at the camp ran out.

 

[Michael Crawford]

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Shane never went into Atlanta with Rick that I recall...Glenn was doing all the runs before Rick showed up. Dale is the mechanic. I must be forgetting something though - has Shane saved anyone's life? He must have and I must not be remembering...he did beat the ____ out of Carol's husband when he deserved it.

 

[Voorhees27]

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They'd still be sitting outside Atlanta...btw, can you name one thing Shane has done for the group since the show started?

No, they'd be all dead.

I can name more than one thing:

1) Protected the group
2) Saved Carl's life
3) Saved Carol from an abusive husband
4) Confronted Jim when he was having his issues (digging)
5) Took care of Lori and Carl (father figure) when Rick was supposedly dead
6) Nailed Andrea which in turn calmed her down
7) Killed about a thousand walkers
8) Etc Etc Etc.

 

[pixletwin]

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No, they'd be all dead.

I can name more than one thing:

1) Protected the group
2) Saved Carl's life
3) Saved Carol from an abusive husband
4) Confronted Jim when he was having his issues (digging)
5) Took care of Lori and Carl (father figure) when Rick was supposedly dead
6) Nailed Andrea which in turn calmed her down
7) Killed about a thousand walkers
8) Etc Etc Etc.

1) How?
2) Ok. Not sure Otis needed to be eaten alive, but ok.
3) You mean he used Carol's husband as a punching bag to relieve his frustrations over Lori and Rick.
4) Ok. I believe Shane was truly acting out of compassion.
5) He admitted to Lori last night that he had feelings for her before the world went to pot. But ok.
6) Prolly the grossest sex scene evarrrrr.
7) Yeah. Not sure he has killed more than Rick or Gwen or any other gun'd up groupie.
8.

 

[Voorhees27]

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Shane never went into Atlanta with Rick that I recall...Glenn was doing all the runs before Rick showed up. Dale is the mechanic. I must be forgetting something though - has Shane saved anyone's life? He must have and I must not be remembering...he did beat the ____ out of Carol's husband when he deserved it.

Yeah but wouldn't it make sense to split up the police trained representation? Sending a cop with a group and leaving a cop with the rest?

1) How?
2) Ok. Not sure Otis needed to be eaten alive, but ok.
3) You mean he used Carol's husband as a punching bag to relieve his frustrations over Lori and Rick.
4) Ok. I believe Shane was truly acting out of compassion.
5) He admitted to Lori last night that he had feelings for her before the world went to pot. But ok.
6) Prolly the grossest sex scene evarrrrr.
7) Yeah. Not sure he has killed more than Rick or Gwen or any other gun'd up groupie.
8.

Banging Andrea can't be classified as gross in any aspect, sir

I think i'd better stop now I don't want to give you guys the impression that i'm a Shane person. Just trying to make some valid points is all.

Rick IS their leader, that is a fact. And rightfully so too.

 

[Michael Crawford]

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No, they'd be all dead.

I can name more than one thing:

1) Protected the group
2) Saved Carl's life
3) Saved Carol from an abusive husband
4) Confronted Jim when he was having his issues (digging)
5) Took care of Lori and Carl (father figure) when Rick was supposedly dead
6) Nailed Andrea which in turn calmed her down
7) Killed about a thousand walkers
8) Etc Etc Etc.

I said the group - not Lori and Carl. That takes out 2 and 5. Number 1 isn't a fact - it's what we are debating. 7 is pretty irrelevant - how many of the adults haven't killed walkers left and right? And how many more have the people that actually went into Atlanta killed?

Saving Carol is a bit of a stretch - he was pissed about Lori, taking it out on Carol's husband. Yea, it helped (although it was the walkers that technically saved her ), but if that's the list you can come up with, I'd say the case for Shane doing anything good for the group is mighty slim.

As to splitting up the cops - seems like Shane stayed home even before Rick got there. Remember, it was Glenn that did all the town runs.

 

[Blkinterceptor]

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Little late to the party here but last nights episode was awesome...so intense.

I can't wait for Next Sundays episode.

 

[Voorhees27]

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I said the group - not Lori and Carl. That takes out 2 and 5. Number 1 isn't a fact - it's what we are debating. 7 is pretty irrelevant - how many of the adults haven't killed walkers left and right? And how many more have the people that actually went into Atlanta killed?

Saving Carol is a bit of a stretch - he was pissed about Lori, taking it out on Carol's husband. Yea, it helped (although it was the walkers that technically saved her ), but if that's the list you can come up with, I'd say the case for Shane doing anything good for the group is mighty slim.

As to splitting up the cops - seems like Shane stayed home even before Rick got there. Remember, it was Glenn that did all the town runs.

I totally understand your point(s) and respect them but at the end of the day we'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[toylion]

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I totally understand your point(s) and respect them but at the end of the day we'll just have to agree to disagree.

No, we'll all have to agree your wrong and just won't admit it.

 

[Michael Crawford]

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I need to go back and re-watch season 1 - I know I must be forgetting some of Shane's good stuff.

I was thinking about Glenn's discussion with Maggie today, which at the time I found annoying and whiney. More I think about it though, the more I like it - when we remember that Glenn was always the guy to go alone into town, risk dying repeatedly, and never blink, his being afraid of dying last night was a big change for him.

 

[Shropt]

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I just want Lori dead. Is that so wrong?

 

[Voorhees27]

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No, we'll all have to agree your wrong and just won't admit it.

Excellent argument. You make some strong points. Well said.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

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Look...at the end of the day it's important to know that in this situation I would sacrifice all of you, without hesitation, if a hot chick like Kate Upton was in the group.

 

[Moonloop]

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You know what would be an amazingly emotional scene/moment of the show.

The writers should continue to develop Maggie and Glenn's love through to the end of season 2, and continue it into season 3...and at the end of season 3 something happens where one of them get's killed in front of the others eyes. In their last moment together they say their last goodbyes and love for one another as one passes away.

I think this would be the most emotional death of the show. Because most of the other characters that are in love or had a daughter, etc. That was already established since we first met them...whereas with Glenn and Maggie we saw the beginning of their relationship. And to see it to the end...gives us a sense of being part of it. And then to see something happen to one of them would be TV gold.

I hope it doesn't happen, but it would be emotional and a big moment on the show. As showrunner Glen Mazzara said, they only kill someone if there is story for it afterwards. And in this case there would be, whether it's Maggie or Glenn that gets killed, the one who doesn't would be changed for the rest of their time on the series.

 

[Mister Ski]

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Of course Rick is changing in some ways, everybody on the show is, and
I appreciate where you're coming from, but we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

Is risking his life and the life of the only doctor they have for his pregnant wife to save the guy that was trying to kill them doing whatever he has to do to keep his family safe? Same Rick, same hero complex. As for planting the seeds of doubt about Shane in Rick's head. Those doubts were already there, Rick just didn't want to admit it to himself, now it looks he's starting to. That's the change.

Where do you get this from? He knows Shane is a hot head and can fly off the handle but he hasn't thought of him as a threat to the group until Lori snaked herself up behind him and whispered in his ear that Shane probably killed Otis and that he thinks the baby is his and they should be together. As they were getting undressed in the tent Lori starts off with we've got to talk about Shane. She mentions how he lied to her about Rick being back at the farm and you can see from Rick's expression that he doesn't have a problem with what Shane did because it kept Lori safe. So when Lori sees that has no reaction, she escalates it by saying all the stuff about the baby and Shane being a threat to their family.

I said the group - not Lori and Carl. That takes out 2 and 5. Number 1 isn't a fact - it's what we are debating. 7 is pretty irrelevant - how many of the adults haven't killed walkers left and right? And how many more have the people that actually went into Atlanta killed?

Saving Carol is a bit of a stretch - he was pissed about Lori, taking it out on Carol's husband. Yea, it helped (although it was the walkers that technically saved her ), but if that's the list you can come up with, I'd say the case for Shane doing anything good for the group is mighty slim.

As to splitting up the cops - seems like Shane stayed home even before Rick got there. Remember, it was Glenn that did all the town runs.

I'm with Voorhees on this debate. Shane is an @ss. He has never done anything for the group, but he has done a lot for Lori and Carl. We just haven't seen it all, but he got them out of the city and on the road to Atlanta. He did go to the hospital to rescue Rick but couldn't considering Rick's condition. You don't just unhook a comatose patient from his IV and throw him over your shoulder and leave. What would that have accomplished? Rick would have died from malnutrition. AT least he barricaded him in the room, which arguably saved his life.

The group has just happened to benefit from his protection but I don't think he has ever cared for anyone else in the group except Lori and Carl.

Next week's preview shows Rick and Shane coming to blows, but I doubt either one will die from this fight. There's still too much story left this season for one of them to leave this early. However, it is pretty clear that at some point Shane is toast and hopefully Lori is right behind him.

Oh yeah and Dale too. "Dale is the mechanic of the group." Priceless!

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

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Where do you get this from? He knows Shane is a hot head and can fly off the handle but he hasn't thought of him as a threat to the group until Lori snaked herself up behind him and whispered in his ear that Shane probably killed Otis and that he thinks the baby is his and they should be together. As they were getting undressed in the tent Lori starts off with we've got to talk about Shane. She mentions how he lied to her about Rick being back at the farm and you can see from Rick's expression that he doesn't have a problem with what Shane did because it kept Lori safe. So when Lori sees that has no reaction, she escalates it by saying all the stuff about the baby and Shane being a threat to their family.

If Rick didn't already have underlying doubts about Shane, then Lori is the most effective seducer since the serpent in the garden of Eden if all it took was a few words whispered in his ear.

 

[Mister Ski]

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If Rick didn't already have underlying doubts about Shane, then Lori is the most effective seducer since the serpent in the garden of Eden if all it took was a few words whispered in his ear.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

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Sorry, I just ain't buying that.

 

[Mister Ski]

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Spoiler

https://hwhills.com/new-walking-dead-season-2-spoiler-reveals-dale-gets-killed-off-more/