The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Comic and Un-aired Spoilers unwelcome!)

[Sweet Rabbit]

I had planned on watching it tonight since it had one of Thor's characters on it but forgot about it.

DVR is your friend

 

[cilantropants]

As for contamination, maybe they're learned over time that they didn't have to worry about it. You can't over think things with Horror or SciFi shows and drive yourself nuts!

Agreed. It's like being a huge fan of Star Wars, but seriously drawing the line at Han Solo being able to survive in carbonite. LOL

I understand the gripes about drawing storylines out too long and some of the choices characters have made, but in the end it doesn't ruin the show for me. That's why I continue to watch it, because I like it.

 

[DiFabio]

Oh never........no one has ever talked about Maggie, or posted sexy pics of her or anything. Never.

I didn't say never, but it's not like it's a constant thing. When was the last time a picture of Lauren Cohan was posted? I think it was that stupid 50s prom shoot with her and Steven Yeun.

As for contamination, maybe they're learned over time that they didn't have to worry about it. You can't over think things with Horror or SciFi shows and drive yourself nuts!

Nah. If they can spend several episodes on nothing but "I want to get a drink" and "I don't drink anymore, but I don't want to be alone . . . bye", then they can spend a few minutes telling us about how the contamination works. Biting alone causes it? Then why was everyone concerned about getting that crap on their face or in their drinking water before this season? Hell, season 4 should be playing with those questions considering the first half of this season dealt with disease.

It's not over thinking or nitpicking with a show that's supposedly about the apocalypse and survival. Maggie is literally up to her elbows in walker guts. Not only that, but has it all over her mouth and face. Think of the little cuts we all get on our hands/feet, from simple hang nails to splinters. Now imagine this world where there's danger at every corner and abrasions and scrapes are an every day occurrence. You're going to stick your hands in a CORPSE and not atleast get sick? C'mon.

 

[a-dev]

Yeah. I mean their show, their rules about what causes infection, just, if I was one of the characters I'd be more careful. Mouth sealed shut while attacking a walker and I'd be very paranoid about cuts.

 

[DiFabio]

And they really need to change things up and have an immunity angle somewhere if they're going to depict **** like this. I want to see a character (not Daryl) get bitten, decide to not off themselves and live.

There's got to be someone out there that has an immunity to this thing. Perhaps someone younger, maybe like Carl? I'd love to see that get played up. Someone gets bitten, other people in the group would be wary of the person not committing suicide (or being helped) and then there would be this huge surprise when said person doesn't turn.

 

[pixletwin]

I got it and I'm only 5'2".

 

[a-dev]

Why do I feel like Ben Affleck in this scene

https://youtu.be/I7MwxFdb0Ls?t=1m52s

I might accept that role if I deserve it. But the possibility that I might not is keeping me hanging on.

 

[The Ween]

DVR is your friend

I don't have one, plus even if I did, I'd never watch what I DVRed.

 

[The Ween]

not to go too far off topic..but speaking of norman and sigs, and meeting him,
this is our good friend jessica(she's on here)...sitting in full ape makeup with him for quite a long time...so cool that she did that...she's gonna print a pic of them and sign it for us and we are gonna get his sig when he comes to our con in Nov.....see if he remembers her then..lol..

He posted a short vid of her and him on his Facebook page! I'm hoping he posts Jo's fig too!

 

[thenammagazine]

What happened to the fear of contamination from previous seasons? Remember Rick cautioning Glenn, "not to get that stuff on your face" when they went out amongst the walkers? How about the well walker and the fear of it contaminating the water? Now it's like the characters can dive bomb and literally tear into other walkers without any consequence.

They already have whatever it is that makes them walkers. There's a bacteria in the mouth that contributes to killing them faster if they get bit, but as far as any "contagion," they all already have it. That was established back when Rick stabbed Shane and Shane turned despite not being bit.

 

[DiFabio]

And the nails.

So a walker bite and scratch can make someone turn, but not their blood?

 

[crows]

what about the flu of earlier? will they never have to worry about that again?

 

[thenammagazine]

And the nails.

So a walker bite and scratch can make someone turn, but not their blood?

Yup, otherwise, given they practically bathe in it on the regular basis, they'd all be walkers.

 

[thenammagazine]

what about the flu of earlier? will they never have to worry about that again?

Not sure. Last time I saw an "infected" walker with the bloody eyes/nose/ears was at the college, when Bob got confronted over the booze. That should definitely remain an underlying threat though.

 

[devilof76]

No one has turned from a scratch. That scene from the first season was Rick being careful because he had no idea how it was transmitted.

The well happened before Rick told anyone else that they were all infected. Besides, who the **** would want to drink out of that? Even if the decomp didn't make you turn, it could still probably make you **** out of every orifice.

And since the CDC is gone, and it was the last place any research was being done, who is going to give them more science in regard to what they're dealing with?

Eugene?

 

[thenammagazine]

Yup, given Milton's lack of knowledge, despite all his research, Rick & Co. are WAY ahead of the game.

 

[devilof76]

I like the way these episodes have happened. I think the most interesting part of it all is the psychological conflict. What they're dealing with is horrific, and none of them are dealing with it well. They're all constantly trapped on the cusp of being devoured by rotting corpses and they can't seem to keep much distance between themselves and that fate. If it isn't the dead, it's other people who have lost their ****. So much attention has been devoted to external threats that it's refreshing to see time spent on their internal issues. Bottom line is that the better you are at keeping your psyche straight, the better your odds of surviving long term.

 

[thenammagazine]

I like the way these episodes have happened. I think the most interesting part of it all is the psychological conflict. What they're dealing with is horrific, and none of them are dealing with it well. They're all constantly trapped on the cusp of being devoured by rotting corpses and they can't seem to keep much distance between themselves and that fate. If it isn't the dead, it's other people who have lost their ****. So much attention has been devoted to external threats that it's refreshing to see time spent on their internal issues. Bottom line is that the better you are at keeping your psyche straight, the better your odds of surviving long term.

That also works in RL too. :

 

[DiFabio]

No one has turned from a scratch. That scene from the first season was Rick being careful because he had no idea how it was transmitted.

No one that's been scratched have been seen turning but it's established that if you get scratched, you turn.

Season 2 and Season 3. Unless I'm just imagining this (it's been a while since I've watches 2 and 3), one of the prisoners gets scratched and Rick and the group are concerned (they tell him he's infected and won't survive). The guy then gets his head smashed in by Tomas before he can turn. I didn't create the "scratching will make you turn" rule, the show did. That's always been the two causes, biting and scratches. I'm pretty sure even the AMC inside videos elaborate on this with Kirkman himself. Besides, why would Rick, prisoners and other characters claim that "you'll die by that scratch" if it's never happened before? We're dealing with a post-CDC Rick are we not?

There's also Dale who is somehow gutted by a walkers . . . bare hands. Still not sure how that worked (or why they didn't give him any last words considering he wasn't bitten and still had his vocal cords/throat intact).

The well happened before Rick told anyone else that they were all infected. Besides, who the **** would want to drink out of that? Even if the decomp didn't make you turn, it could still probably make you **** out of every orifice.

So if a simple bite or a scratch can make people sick and turn, why wouldn't drinking water that had a ****ing walker in it or a walkers blood and guts all over your mouth, hands and forearms? That's completely non-nonsensical.

What? Are the walkers like a snake or predator where they have "venom" in their mouths or hands or something? Did you see what Maggie did in the last episode? She literally went into barbarian mode and gutted a walker with her bare hands. Next she's laying with them, covered in walker guts (on talking dead they even mentioned a deleted scene that got cut where she not only uses a couple to stay hidden, but she's inside one of them). I got an HD television and could clearly see she had that **** on her mouth!

But a bite or scratch is the thing to worry about? Okay. I prefer when these survivors actually feared getting this crap onto their skin. It makes sense. Even if you couldn't turn into a walker, like you said "you could still probably make you **** out of every orifice". Where is that?

And since the CDC is gone, and it was the last place any research was being done, who is going to give them more science in regard to what they're dealing with?

That's not the crux of the argument though. We're dealing with rotten corpses that have been sitting in the Georgia heat for well over a year that somehow have a quality in them to make living beings sick and become one of them by simply coming into contact with the bloodstream. If that's the case, how is diving into the bowels of a walker and having that **** all over you okay? Even if it isn't the walker virus/disease/whatever, you should be extremely sick. Imagine the earthly diseases that we know of that these bodies would be plagued with.

 

[devilof76]

So, nobody has been scratched and turned. Thanks for confirming that.

Komodo dragons have septic saliva. If one bites you, you will get an infection that immediately enters your blood. If you get some spit in a scratch, the opening for delivery is much smaller. The volume of bacteria will be radically less. The odds of your immune system stopping it in its tracks are much higher.

And yes, drinking water from a well that has a corpse decomposing in it can make you sick. It could kill you, depending on your constitution, but it probably won't. It doesn't make zombie decomposition any more dangerous than that of a non-zombie. What kills you is the volume of bacteria entering your bloodstream. Maybe the guy in the prison would have got the fever. He had his shoulder practically torn off (hell of a 'scratch'). Not even close to getting a little in your mouth.

I have no idea what Dale has to do with anything. They didn't put him down because he'd turn (he would turn, because everyone's infected, but that's beside the point). They did it because he had his guts torn out and it hurt a lot.

That also works in RL too. :

Which is what gives the show its RL quality.