Academy said they contemplated having him removed.
BS!
They contemplated not.
Academy said they contemplated having him removed.
There wasn’t anything more to his joke. He was referring to her baldness, thus the quick GI Jane joke.I dont even really understand the joke or where Rock was going with it. GI Jane is 20/ 25 years old? How many oscar watchers even remember that movie? Doesnt mean he should be publicly slapped on tv though.
So in the wake of Smith's second and more elaborate public apology; an interesting question comes up. What mistakes are forgivable? Has anyone here ever made an ass of themselves, or lost their **** when they shouldn't have? Maybe not in front of millions of people but still.
He did assault someone, which is obviously much more of an issue than yelling at someone. Rock had a previous relationship with Smith, is coming out on top in this mess any way you slice it, and has declined to press charges so he seems to be fine.
Smith is in his early 50s and a public figure so the old 'he should know better' comes up but I really do believe Smith is embarrassed and likely will be for a very long time. On the other hand he had no problem enjoying his Oscar and dancing at the after-party so notions of entitlement and ego are also present.
I'm not making excuses for his behaviour (he should be ashamed) but I'm fascinated by what I see as a mostly toxic and extreme culture of public judgement that inhabits the internet, as well as the immunity a wealthy celebrity may or may not enjoy to varying degrees. This is also Will Smith, who for the most part has been well-loved by the public at large for decades.
The usual "well if he was white he'd be cancelled" stuff is already up and running but I'm not interested in what-ifs. He's a straight male POC involved in an incident with another straight male POC so a lot of the culture war hot buttons are deactivated here; I'm just wondering where this specific situation is going to go.
That may still happen. In cases of minor assault I've seen in real life that went to court here in Canada, I've seen courts order a peace bond be signed between two men but no actual charges laid, so I'm not clear on where the law actually steps in to charge someone, and US law isn't the same as Canadian so there's that.I'm not well versed in the law but I find it a bit odd that the police are treating this as strictly a civil matter (apparently a non-starter with Rock declining to press charges) rather than a criminal one. I would have thought something as obvious as this (evidence is there for all the world to see) would at least qualify as some kind of misdemeanor? At the very least Smith deserves a slap on the wrists from someone.
Remember that Hockey games have fights in almost every other game for the last 50 years!I'm not well versed in the law but I find it a bit odd that the police are treating this as strictly a civil matter (apparently a non-starter with Rock declining to press charges) rather than a criminal one. I would have thought something as obvious as this (evidence is there for all the world to see) would at least qualify as some kind of misdemeanor? At the very least Smith deserves a slap on the wrists from someone.
Great example, how could I forget. The truth is law enforcement picks and chooses what they actually want to pursue and file paperwork for all the time. Crying millionaires on television are likely low on the list.Remember that Hockey games have fights in almost every other game for the last 50 years!
ZERO police involvement!
Why?
Because no charges are ever pressed.
The Academy needs to hire @Darth Snoopy.But seriously, wtf do you have to do to be escorted from the Oscars?
OK good point but in Hockey there are usually two willing participants in the fight. And with the exception of Tie Domi they usually don’t sucker punch the other guy lol.Remember that Hockey games have fights in almost every other game for the last 50 years!
ZERO police involvement!
Why?
Because no charges are ever pressed.
At the end of the day it was an open handed slap that left no mark on a man who didn't press charges. His formal apology acknowledged the mistake and took responsibility for it. It'd be nice if the Oscars banned him at least temporarily to show that such behavior won't be tolerated but I don't think he needs to be cancelled, his life and career will forever be tainted by what he did. And on top of that he's married to Jada Pinkett. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.So in the wake of Smith's second and more elaborate public apology; an interesting question comes up. What mistakes are forgivable? Has anyone here ever made an ass of themselves, or lost their **** when they shouldn't have? Maybe not in front of millions of people but still.
He did assault someone, which is obviously much more of an issue than yelling at someone. Rock had a previous relationship with Smith, is coming out on top in this mess any way you slice it, and has declined to press charges so he seems to be fine.
Smith is in his early 50s and a public figure so the old 'he should know better' comes up but I really do believe Smith is embarrassed and likely will be for a very long time. On the other hand he had no problem enjoying his Oscar and dancing at the after-party so notions of entitlement and ego are also present.
I'm not making excuses for his behaviour (he should be ashamed) but I'm fascinated by what I see as a mostly toxic and extreme culture of public judgement that inhabits the internet, as well as the immunity a wealthy celebrity may or may not enjoy to varying degrees. This is also Will Smith, who for the most part has been well-loved by the public at large for decades.
The usual "well if he was white he'd be cancelled" stuff is already up and running but I'm not interested in what-ifs. He's a straight male POC involved in an incident with another straight male POC so a lot of the culture war hot buttons are deactivated here; I'm just wondering where this specific situation is going to go.
Members of the Academy have stated he won't be stripped of the Oscar but there will likely be 'consequences'.At the end of the day it was an open handed slap that left no mark on a man who didn't press charges. His formal apology acknowledged the mistake and took responsibility for it. It'd be nice if the Oscars banned him at least temporarily to show that such behavior won't be tolerated but I don't think he needs to be cancelled,
Yep. I don't know anything about his wife other than finding out the other day she cheated on him. Which in and of itself is bad enough -- he should have got out then and there but that's just me.his life and career will forever be tainted by what he did. And on top of that he's married to Jada Pinkett. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
Pay me in Hot Toys and I'll clean house!The Academy needs to hire @Darth Snoopy.
I just want to thank Go...
BANNED!
please be gentle Snoop
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