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[devilof76]

 

[Solidus]

For clarification, there's isn't a verse in the Bible that tells you not to ********** .

Edit: mas tur bate. Thanks, Dave!

 

[devilof76]

Probably one of those medieval strictures that found its roots in St. Augustine, like pre-marital sex, monogamy, and prohibitions on non-missionary copulation. I'm sure there's a papal bull somewhere, dedicated to shaking its fist at, er, um...lol.

 

[Solidus]

Well, I think pre-marital sex was frowned upon in the early church, since Paul the Apostle taught, that when a man and a woman copulate, they become like one flesh. But, yeah, a lot of strange traditions and beliefs have found its way into mainstream Christianity .

 

[devilof76]

If you can convince people that you are the authority on what defines blessed or sinful reproductive acts, you control their reproduction. I'm fairly certain that ideas like that are what gave Christianity the power to become mainstream, i.e. universal, i.e. Catholic. Augustine inherited Paul's appreciation for a guilty conscience, and with it the knowledge of what kind of influence guilt could hold over a person, let alone a people, let alone generations of peoples. Propagation within the faith guarantees the strength of numbers for the Church.

Those guys weren't interested in spreading the Word of God. They were interested in being it.

 

[Lejuan]

i always thought it came down to clerical interpretations of the whole 'Onan spilling his seed on the ground' thing.

 

[devilof76]

Have you ever known a clerical interpretation that failed to benefit the cleric?

I think there's a story about Poseidon trying to tag Athena where it ends up on the ground. Also on her thigh. She wipes it off with lamb's wool and makes it into the infant Erecthonius. I can't remember what happened to the seed that ended up on the ground. First horses? Olive trees? I don't know.

 

[devilof76]

Damn!

Early writers have sometimes focused on the spilling seed, and the sexual act being used for non-procreational purposes. One opinion expressed in the Talmud argues that this was where the death penalty's imposition originated.

 

[devilof76]

Is the Hebrew Old Testament the only Judaism that Christianity acknowledges?

 

[Solidus]

If you can convince people that you are the authority on what defines blessed or sinful reproductive acts, you control their reproduction. I'm fairly certain that ideas like that are what gave Christianity the power to become mainstream, i.e. universal, i.e. Catholic. Augustine inherited Paul's appreciation for a guilty conscience, and with it the knowledge of what kind of influence guilt could hold over a person, let alone a people, let alone generations of peoples. Propagation within the faith guarantees the strength of numbers for the Church.

Those guys weren't interested in spreading the Word of God. They were interested in being it.

I would say on the topic of monogamy, and being against pre-marital sex, it does make sense. As a practical example, I'd always look at the cultural crisis of the black population in the U.S. Around 72% of black kids are born from unwed mothers, and they're estranged to their fathers (many of whom, are fathering more kids from other women). It's so sad, since most of these kids grow up in poverty, and a good number of them will eventually fill the federal penitentiaries - where they happen to be the majority. Of course, the welfare system does have a large part in this, too. But, I think it's clear from statistics, that kids would stand a better chance of growing up well, if they're raised homes where both a mother and father are present (excluding abusive households, and negligent parents, of course).

I'm not a Catholic, but there's have been many men, throughout the course of history, who have used the pulpit as a means of controlling the masses. Religious oppression is a very scary thing.

 

[fosing]

i always thought it came down to clerical interpretations of the whole 'Onan spilling his seed on the ground' thing.

Onan the barbarian.

*aka the hebrew he-man

 

[devilof76]

You can have both parents present without the institution of marriage, and you can certainly have intercourse prior to any kind of committed relationship without reproduction. I understand exactly where you're coming from, but up until Paul and Augustine, Christianity lacked any of the structure that would allow it to become an organized, self-perpetuating institution. Judaism and Islam were different in that regard (both were more tribal, hence more oriented toward survival). So was the Eastern Orthodox church, but not on account of the religion; they had the old Roman structures to support them (structures which had collapsed in the West).

 

[devilof76]

Also, John D. Rockefeller was a child of a single mother.

 

[The Ween]

OK, A1c is 6.9%.

How far down have your numbers come? Keep up the good work!

 

[toylion]

Afraid I didn't get my results with the other Doctors before. But I researched this number and it's good for a diabetic. I just got to stay on top of my diet and get it lower. Been eating low fat plain greek yogurt with berries when my sweet tooth acts up. Got a bag of mix berries. I use Chobani cause it has 22 grams of protein per cup.

 

[The Ween]

Afraid I didn't get my results with the other Doctors before. But I researched this number and it's good for a diabetic. I just got to stay on top of my diet and get it lower. Been eating low fat plain greek yogurt with berries when my sweet tooth acts up. Got a bag of mix berries. I use Chobani cause it has 22 grams of protein per cup.

I love Oikos Triple Zero Greek yogurt. 0 fat, 0 added sugar, 0 artificial sweeteners. 15g protein, 9 net carbs. I like Chobani too.

Yes, that number is good for a diabetic. It actually puts you just below the diabetic range.

 

[toylion]

I love Oikos Triple Zero Greek yogurt. 0 fat, 0 added sugar, 0 artificial sweeteners. 15g protein, 9 net carbs. I like Chobani too.

Yes, that number is good for a diabetic. It actually puts you just below the diabetic range.

Exactly, that's why I didn't need any medication. That news has really help me be more discipline in my diet.

 

[Mr. Green]

think those have gelatin.....Mr. Green prefer:

 

[The Ween]

Love this.......

 

[Kamandi]

i f#$%ing love this thread: https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58419

I feel like i missed a party. Thread is gone.