this may be blasphemous...but i gotta say it...about clones in OT

[Anzik]

He only needs to remake ESB and ROTJ so they all suffer from a weak director with great ideas.

 

[pixletwin]

Let's see if I can go full blasphemous --

I actually think the entire OT should be remade to take into account everything that was revealed in the PT. Think of how different ANH would be if the filmmakers actually knew that Vader was Luke's father and Luke and Leia were brother and sister? Obi-wan wouldn't be calling Vader "Darth" but Ani - just like Dumbledore calls Voldemort "Tom" to belittle him.

And the Jedi battle can be all jumping around. Yoda could be freed from just sitting there too. We could see the destruction of Organa from planetside. There could be more aliens throughout the series rather than just in the bar. Computer screens wouldn't have to look like a 1973 Atari.

Perhaps it needs another 10 years, so it can be remade in 4D holovision, but remade it must be.

That version exists Dave. It was made by Adywan and it is T'awesome.

 

[Darth_IMPoor]

(covers ears and squints eyes closed tight. Lays in fetal position)

Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala

I'm not listening

Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala

 

[Darthrazz]

ANH was already re-made, it's called ROTJ.

1. Luke and Leia swing across something-check.
2. Huge space battle-check
3.Death Star-check
4.Huge space battle involving destruction of Death Star, by destroying a "weak" point-check

5. Death of Jedi Mentor-check
6. R2-D2 get's shot -check
7.A prisoner gets rescued-check
8. Han Solo gets disguised in uniform of enemy-check
9. Briefing describing weakness of Death Star-check
10. Captured data plans of Death Star-check

I'm sure there are some I can't think of.

 

[karamazov80]

I'm sure there are some I can't think of.

You didn't mention that both had some guys fighting some other guys, both had characters speaking in English, both had credits.

You are right! Remake!

Of course, the same goes for the prequels. The 2nd one (don't remember the name) and the 1st one (something something "Clones" something) both had the following:

-crappy acting -check
-crappy special effects -check
-crappy characters doing crappy things -double check
-crappy, forgettable, convoluted storylines -check

Kind of spooky, now that I think about it.

 

[the dude person]

I'm sorry Craw but....you leave me no choice

Totally agree...

You isn't sposed to like stormies, they's the bad guys and is evils, but they's also stupid. Thems can't shoot in a straight lines.

Clones is awesome tho... so's Mandos

 

[Khev]

You didn't mention that both had some guys fighting some other guys, both had characters speaking in English, both had credits.

You are right! Remake!

The plot points he mentioned were just a tad more specific than English speakers fighting English speakers. I thought ROTJ being a rehash (awesome though it is) of most of ANH was common knowledge for the last 26 years.

 

[the dude person]

You didn't mention that both had some guys fighting some other guys, both had characters speaking in English, both had credits.

You are right! Remake!

Of course, the same goes for the prequels. The 2nd one (don't remember the name) and the 1st one (something something "Clones" something) both had the following:
-crappy acting -check
-crappy special effects -check
-crappy characters doing crappy things -double check
-crappy, forgettable, convoluted storylines -check

Kind of spooky, now that I think about it.

ok, I guess your brain chose to forget the worst star wars movie. The Phantom Menace is the first one, Attack of the clones is the SECOND one, and Revenge of the Sith is the third one. They are very different from each other, as TPM was stupid and childish, AOTC was pretty awesome, and ROTS was stupid and not chilidish
vader : where is Padme?
:emperor : it appears... that in your anger, you have killed her.
: N()0oOo()oo0oo!!!)

And BTW, if any of the prequels were good in any aspect, it would have to be special effects. I mean, those Clones in AOTC look photorealsitic... not a single one was a guy in a suit (unless you count the blue ones with tracking dots), and the Kaminoans weren't real at all either (cloning people that are super albinos with giraffe necks)... but they looked pretty convincing. And the lava planet Mustafar was 80% green screen and it could pass for real... Maybe the story line was ridiculously convoluted, and perhaps there were no Grade A actors and perhaps parts of it were ridiculously stupid (like the above quote from ROTS), but in comparison they all are much better than the Clone Wars crap they got goin now (except for TPM, where the first APTAO* was introduced).


*A.P.T.A.O: Annoying People That Are Orange. These include Jar Jar Binks and Ahsoka Tano. They are generally used to destroy loveable franchises and one is rumored to appear in the next Terminator movie...

 

[Entropy]

If you want to the see the ANH "redone" to fit in with the new PT , check out Adywans edit of ANH. Very well done in my opinion.

Nope. You got it backwards. Ady's goal is to alter the PT to fit and make sense with the OT. It's Lucas who keeps butchering the OT to fit in with the PT stinkfest.

 

[DPrime]

Leia's "Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper" comment supposedly says otherwise. "TK-421" doesn't exactly sound like someone's name and rank either. As for for PT-era Clone Troopers, keep 'em in the PT.

That doesn't really mean anything. Many armies have had height restrictions, and the Stormtroopers were different heights and had different voices in the OT anyway. TK-421 could just as easily be a code name to me.

If Stormtroopers weren't specifically shown or otherwise mentioned to be clones in the original movies we have no reason to think that was the fact at the time. I suspect that the "Clone Wars" weren't at all well formed in Lucas' mind at the time and the idea of Clones evolving into Stormtroopers was retconned during the concept phases of the Prequel Trilogy. At best, it might have been a "maybe" thought in the back of Lucas' mind, but then again, who really knows...

 

[galactiboy]

Leave the OT alone... that is all

 

[Entropy]

That version exists Dave. It was made by Adywan and it is T'awesome.

ANH:R >>>> ANH

Only version I watch anymore.

 

[Batty]

Leave the OT alone... that is all

I agree.

 

[Blackhole]

Right, my thoughts...

Keep the Stormtrooper Armour, it's cool that it evolves from Clone armour...

BUT, I wouldn't mind seeing a few Jango clones thrown in with the regular soldiers, maybe have a scene where they aren't wearing helmets and there are regular recruits mixed with clones...

That is why they aren't all the same height, because they aren't all clones...

I don't mind having George Lucas tinker with the OT, as long as he keeps it roughly the same and doesn't change anything major...

 

[Blackhole]

Right, my thoughts...

Keep the Stormtrooper Armour, it's cool that it evolves from Clone armour...

BUT, I wouldn't mind seeing a few Jango clones thrown in with the regular soldiers, maybe have a scene where they aren't wearing helmets and there are regular recruits mixed with clones...

That is why they aren't all the same height, because they aren't all clones...

I don't mind having George Lucas tinker with the OT, as long as he keeps it roughly the same and doesn't change anything major...

 

[Wor-Gar]

Color represents individuality and diversity. The Empire was about one person being in control of everything without question. Every soldier looking exaclty the same (within there designated roles) shows absolute order.

Good point here.

 

[gdb]

ok guys, this needs to be said. i'm sure MANY of you agree with me, but the clones look AWESOME. not only do they look awesome, they were awesome in what they did. from killing droids, to killing jedi.

yeah, it's a shame that these guys started out as kicka$$ characters, then became the villains...but nonetheless, they rock.

on top of that, their armor is full of win.

that being said...i PERSONALLY want lucas to digitally add clones into the OT or alter some stormtroopers to have the EP3 clone armor and helmet.

yeah, i know, i have a feeling i'm gonna be targeted by many...but i don't care. the clones did WAY more than the troopers of the OT, and they looked cool doing it too.

so yeah, curse me all you want, i hope and WANT clones in the OT.

I don't have much to add except, hell yes!

 

[Khev]

That doesn't really mean anything. Many armies have had height restrictions, and the Stormtroopers were different heights and had different voices in the OT anyway. TK-421 could just as easily be a code name to me.

That's why I said "supposedly." The OT doesn't definitively say whether any of the Stormtroopers are clones or not. But some old magazine or article was published way back in '78 or '79 where Lucas talks about the Stormtroopers being clones. I'm way too lazy to bother trying to track it down online but Leia's question about Luke's height was *supposedly* written because the characters in the movie knew the Empire used clones.

Do you have to interpret it that way? Nope, because they didn't go into any greater detail on screen, which is all that really counts. My point was that the OT films never give any reason to assume the soldiers can't be clones, especially when you take certain lines of dialogue and interpret them the way the writer/director talked about them in interviews at the time.

 

[Khev]

I'm totally in favor of leaving the OT alone. .....but......the one thing I would like to see is the Stormtroopers in ROTJ , have a least a bit of camoflauge on them. Likelike the clones on Kaaashyk. It only makes sense, they were in a forest, even the rebels were wearing camo!

Yeah you'd think the Imperial Troops on Endor were overconfident or something. Oh wait...

 

[BrooklynWolf X]

That's why I said "supposedly." The OT doesn't definitively say whether any of the Stormtroopers are clones or not. But some old magazine or article was published way back in '78 or '79 where Lucas talks about the Stormtroopers being clones. I'm way too lazy to bother trying to track it down online but Leia's question about Luke's height was *supposedly* written because the characters in the movie knew the Empire used clones.

Do you have to interpret it that way? Nope, because they didn't go into any greater detail on screen, which is all that really counts. My point was that the OT films never give any reason to assume the soldiers can't be clones, especially when you take certain lines of dialogue and interpret them the way the writer/director talked about them in interviews at the time.

also, in EP2, jango bumps his head when he enters slave 1...didn't a stormie bump his head in EP4 as well? if you listen to the commentary in EP2, he makes mention of it and even links it to EP2.