Those who disliked TLJ, are you still buying toys from it?

[SkullDuggery]

No toys from this movie or any of the new trilogy TLJ left a bad taste in my mouth. Kinda like walrus ***** green milk.

 

[Random Killer X]

I did not like TLJ for the same reasons most of you mentioned. My main hatred for it is how they mistreated the original 3 characters in these movies. However, I am still buying figures from this new trilogy because I like the idea of having 3 detolfs representing the 3 Star Wars trilogies.

Now I do admit, I’m having a hard time filling up my new trilogy shelves with figures. I will have a shelf with the older versions of the original 3. One shelf with Rey, Finn, and now Poe. My villain shelf is lacking, I only have TFA Kylo and that’s it. I hate unmasked Kylo and Phasma is a joke of a character, Hux and Snoke are no better.

One thing we all have to admit was that George Lucas created some of the most iconic and cool looking characters, these new movies have some of the most boring and uninspiring looking characters ever. Lucas also was a better story teller in the OT and the prequels but these new movies have no direction what so ever.

 

[FlyAndFight]

This hobby is too expensive (for me) to be purchasing figures of characters that were either disappointing, irrelevant or annoying.

Not sure if Hot Toy's "Poe" is part of the TLJ line, but he'll be the only figure I'll be picking up from the new trilogy. (I think I may have already posted in this thread...)

 

[Clone217]

I bought only 3 figures and snoke and Luke . =( May he Rest In Peace thanks Disney .


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[darthkush]

I'm planning on buying at the very least Last Jedi Kylo, just cause I feel he's kind of the figure I really wanted for Force Awakens but after that it's not as clear. Before I saw the film, I really REALLY wanted the new Rey and old man Luke and now I'll still probably get them but now I'm not dying for them. I had no intention of getting an older Leia, thinking she wouldn't even be made, but I must admit, it's not a bad looking figure. She's a maybe. Troopers and Praetorian guard are an easy no. Phasma is a no. Poe is a big question as I really wanted one after force awakens but Last Jedi damaged his character so badly for me, I just don't know. I don't think we'll get another Finn until episode 9. I kind of want a Rose but I doubt she ever gets made and if she does, I feel she'll warm sideshow's warehouse.

I've only seen the film once but I really wish I had the time to watch it once more and process the film better. My initial viewing was just such a letdown and yet I know I didn't hate it, like it way more than phantom menace and all the good moments outweighed most of Rogue One for me(which I think is a well made but very overated film).

 

[RandomHero]

I did not like TLJ for the same reasons most of you mentioned. My main hatred for it is how they mistreated the original 3 characters in these movies. However, I am still buying figures from this new trilogy because I like the idea of having 3 detolfs representing the 3 Star Wars trilogies.

Now I do admit, I’m having a hard time filling up my new trilogy shelves with figures. I will have a shelf with the older versions of the original 3. One shelf with Rey, Finn, and now Poe. My villain shelf is lacking, I only have TFA Kylo and that’s it. I hate unmasked Kylo and Phasma is a joke of a character, Hux and Snoke are no better.

One thing we all have to admit was that George Lucas created some of the most iconic and cool looking characters, these new movies have some of the most boring and uninspiring looking characters ever. Lucas also was a better story teller in the OT and the prequels but these new movies have no direction what so ever.

I don't know how you can say all three original main characters have been mistreated when it was Harrison Ford's wish to be killed off with a meaningful death since ROTJ. He got his wish in TFA and it was a pretty powerful moment, but I agree that Luke and Leia really weren't handled properly and given a fair sendoff in TLJ. I hope Luke at least comes back as a Force Ghost and plays a prominent role in episode IX so that there's some kind of decent closure for the character.

I never thought TFA was a bad movie, it just wasn't what I wanted. JJ Abrams actually set the franchise up to have some good storylines, and he's going to have to pull a rabbit out of a hat to save the storyline moving forward for the next movie. Still, I agree with you that the characters have been mostly uninspiring. I've said it before in this thread, but in my opinion, Rey, Poe and Hux are the only good characters in the ST. The jury is still out on Kylo for me.

I'll remain hopeful that they can right the ship with this story, but it's going to take one hell of an effort for Abrams, especially if Kathleen Kennedy doesn't **** off next year.

 

[darth toffeeman]

I love Star Wars thanks to the 'never give up' attitude that the OT inspired in not just me, but generations of fans worldwide. Leia was as strong a lead as Han and Luke too. They are timeless classics.

This new set up is ****. Total and utter ****. TFA was not great but at least left possibilities to expand on. TLJ is an absolute abomination.

I should not have to go and see it again to find out if it was indeed a steaming turd of a movie. I was the same with TPM. Having seen that a few more times since it is still dreadful (bar the opening few minutes and the lightsaber Theed duel).

I hope Hot Toys can get a feeling from the fans, the ones who pay £200+ for these figures that OT will sell. This stuff is just expanded universe tat that will go on clearance.

Glad I made a custom Mara Jade now.

 

[Darth KirBayBey]

After seeing the movie I can definitely say I won't be buying any of TLJ figures. I'll also probably sell or trade the four TFA figures I own to make room for OT figures.

 

[matrix69]

Yep it's a pretty awful film...but i still might pick up an old man luke or hologram jedi luke or maybe just the cloak on a rock luke(cheaper)...just to go with old man solo..

 

[Darth KirBayBey]

I was toying with the idea of getting Poe when HT teased him but after seeing the new film I was like nope, not going to do it. I might actually keep the TFA Kylo because he is my favorite figure from that movie. I also like the Stormtrooper Finn figure but I would trade him or sale him if I knew I could get a HT Boba Fett figure out of him.

 

[Random Killer X]

I don't know how you can say all three original main characters have been mistreated when it was Harrison Ford's wish to be killed off with a meaningful death since ROTJ. He got his wish in TFA and it was a pretty powerful moment, but I agree that Luke and Leia really weren't handled properly and given a fair sendoff in TLJ. I hope Luke at least comes back as a Force Ghost and plays a prominent role in episode IX so that there's some kind of decent closure for the character.

You are right, Han Solo did have the best storyline of the three. What I meant by mistreated is that I really wanted all three of them in missions together again, or at least share some new scenes now that they are older. I wanted them to have bigger roles in this new trilogy along with the new group.

As for Harrisson’s wish, I knew that was coming. We all know how he feels about the Han Solo character and Star Wars in general, but I was hoping they would delay that until the third movie or at least the second one

 

[RandomHero]

I don't think Harrison Ford hates Star Wars or Han Solo....it is the role that made him famous after all. If I recall correctly, Ford gave an interview saying that he lobbied for his character to be killed off because it would have been a noble sacrifice. The smuggler who didn't believe in the Force and the Rebellion in the beginning would have sacrificed his life for the cause, he thought that would have been powerful and good for the character. I think a lot of the headlines were misleading at the time, but I'll have to go back and look for sure.

Ford was signed back on to Star Wars before Mark Hamill, and much more enthusiastic about it at first, so I don't think he has a bad view of Star Wars.

Solo definitely had the best character arc of all three. He was one of the best parts of TFA, he had some funny/notable lines, and he went out trying to save his son. I think his character was done justice. Definitely can't say that for Luke. I understand why Luke would have ran away for fearing a fall to the Dark Side (remember, he was on the verge of turning in ROTJ and saw that again in himself when he almost killed Ben in his sleep), but for him to go out as an apparition and just die was ridiculous. And they kind of screwed up not having Leia die in some explosion or something, because now she'll have to have an off screen death, and that's lame for such an iconic character.

I agree with you, they should have had bigger roles, or at least better stories. Solo was done justice, Luke was dicked over, and Leia is left in limbo because Carrie is gone.

 

[davejames]

I've only seen the film once but I really wish I had the time to watch it once more and process the film better. My initial viewing was just such a letdown and yet I know I didn't hate it, like it way more than phantom menace and all the good moments outweighed most of Rogue One for me(which I think is a well made but very overated film).

Yup that's the exact same way I felt on a first viewing as well. But watching it again the story seemed to work and flow a whole lot better for some reason, and I was able to appreciate the writing a lot more as well.

Just surprising to me that so many of us were willing to give the dreadful and lifeless prequels multiple chances, but when it comes to TLJ everyone is just like "one and done." And I would argue the prequels screwed up the Anakin story a WHOLE lot more than TLJ screwed up Luke.

 

[sithlord13]

Just seen an article on the times website about the Star Wars story group. 11 people. 11. And still they managed to churn out a terrible dull story with massive plot holes and dead ends, ruining the legend of the original trilogy and just pissing off loads of core fans.
And it would seem that the core function of the story group is ........to ensure that the stories feature the appropriate amount of dialogue for female characters and that characters are diverse enough.
How about, perhaps, story? Story,plot, characters we care about regardless of age race colour etc?

Written by committee. They actually researched how much dialogue each gender has in the films. I can only imagine the meetings.

Anyway no toys from this farce for me thanks

 

[davejames]

FWIW, the article states it was a separate researcher and university that had done the research into how much dialogue characters were getting, not the story group.

 

[screamingmetal]

Yup that's the exact same way I felt on a first viewing as well. But watching it again the story seemed to work and flow a whole lot better for some reason, and I was able to appreciate the writing a lot more as well.

Just surprising to me that so many of us were willing to give the dreadful and lifeless prequels multiple chances, but when it comes to TLJ everyone is just like "one and done." And I would argue the prequels screwed up the Anakin story a WHOLE lot more than TLJ screwed up Luke.

I can't speak for others but to me the prequels felt like a let down, TLJ felt like a spit in the face.

 

[ShadowX81]

FWIW, the article states it was a separate researcher and university that had done the research into how much dialogue characters were getting, not the story group.

Why should it matter at all in the first place?

 

[davejames]

I agree doing research on the subject is a bit silly, but there's nothing wrong with wanting to see women and minorities represented better in SW or scifi in general.

 

[TonTon]

Why should it matter at all in the first place?

3PO has more lines than Leia in ANH. The movie really just has two women in the entire movie (Beru and Leia).

 

[RandomHero]

Well Leia was being held captive for half the movie. She has a much bigger role in ESB and ROTJ.

For the record, I like Rey, I like Ahsoka, I like Jyn, I like Sabine, I like Phasma and I like Hera. I have no problem with any of those characters and no problem with them trying to work women in more to the story. We're in an age where it's a good thing that women can finally get better representation. But this movie crossed the line. Rose was a pointless character by all accounts, even the Asians say she was just forced in for diversity and was horrible character compared to Chirrut and Baze in Rogue One. And Holdo took the glory that Admiral Ackbar, a wartime hero of the Rebellion, should have had.

At this point they're just pushing an agenda and the research behind it is just further proof.