Threezero - Game of Thrones - 1/6 Eddard (Ned) Stark Figure

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Problem is nobody wants the learning curve to be on premier characters of a hit license like Game of Thrones.

 

[Darklord Dave]

People weren't that happy with the first reveal of Tyrion either and that turned out okay. Hopefully we'll see higher res photos and perhaps a profile before it goes in for approval. But I'd agree that the eyebrows and nose seem to be the biggest problems.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

Anybody think ThreeZero will actually see this thing through 'til the end of the line? I'd be pleasantly surprised if we get anything more than Tyrion, Ned, Jamie, Cersei, Dany and Jon Snow.

 

[HotBallsJohnson]

That's my concern too. Like I'd love a Roose and Ramsay Bolton and for exclusive versions they could include clothing variations to be book accurate (or build a something like asmus is doing). Ramsay's book outfit is so badass, same with Rooses' (Roose's?) battle armor but the show makes stuff drab. I'd like to hear them explain their plans or perhaps their process for deciding characters. I feel like this is a situation where they should announce a regular monthly poll of secondary characters to guage interest. Regularly so more and more people participate to get maximum info.
Does ThreeZero have a rep on here like asmus? A rep or a more active facebook user would be really beneficial to increasing their sales. Just scares me with the amount of licenses they have going.

Anybody think ThreeZero will actually see this thing through 'til the end of the line? I'd be pleasantly surprised if we get anything more than Tyrion, Ned, Jamie, Cersei, Dany and Jon Snow.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

Only a very few lines get everything made, either by one company or several - Star Wars, MOTU, Iron Man.

 

[Protozaius]

I wouldn't be interested in LotR figures either, I wouldn't compare the 2.

Wow... you are the only guy who doesn't compared them. Congratulations.

yeah, I got The Comedian, I'm happy with it, & got it because I liked how it was made, I didn't buy the others because I didn't like them.

What others? You mean Silk Spectre. That was it. No Rorschach. That still galls me. Boy, I really gotta let that one go.

And yeah... we are vastly different. I will not buy a figure/statue no matter how well it's made or how cool it looks if it's of a character I don't like or that I am indifferent to. I've seen some amazing Hulk sculptures over the years but I wouldn't buy any of them... I just don't care for the character.

I don't have that much room to display my hobby so I reserve that space for figures of characters that mean something to me. The piece has to have meaning to be in my collection

I've been a figure collector before I knew what one was. Back in the early seventies, I was 10 when I instinctively bought two each of the MEGO Planet of the Apes 8 inch figures: one to play with and the other to "keep nice and clean" (all of which I wrapped individually in toilet paper)... and that set is one I still have to this day. Minus the toilet paper.

And I was there buying EVERY SINGLE Star Wars Kenner figure as they made them and NOBODY bought the Kenner figures because they looked good... NOBODY! We bought them because we liked the characters... it was fun and at $2 a pop, it was cheap fun. The quality of figure wasn't really in the equation. And like the packaging stated, you really could "collect them all"!

So, I bought figures before there was all this... QUALITY. And it's this abundance of quality and the rising prices that go along with it which is killing this hobby for me. It also creates an air of elitism and snobbery among collectors which is annoying and unpleasant. Back in the 90's/00's, Sideshow made some GREAT figures at $30-$40 each! All those Buffy and James Bond figures... you didn't have to take out a bank loan or file for divorce if you wanted to keep up with those collections. With Hot Toys and Enterbay comes great outlay of cash. No thanks.

One of my favorite pieces in my collection is the original 12" Medicom Phantom of the Paradise figure. Sure there have been MANY other figures made that have been of better quality. It's a Medicom figure for pete's sake what do you expect. But it's of a character and from a film I absolutely love and I can't imagine my collection without it. Meaning trumps quailty.

So yeah, I'd rather have a less quality figure at a lower price and stay married.

So in a nutshell my priorities are wack.

 

[Darklord Dave]

People are saying he has a fat face, but actually the face isn't fat enough. This is more than just disproportions between mouth and nose and the eyebrows being too long. The shape of the face is accurate, but not broad enough.

The lines on the figure split the eye, tip of the nose, the mouth, bottom of the chin. See how the lines intersect on the photos of the character.

 

[wavestuff]

Spoiler

it would be good for a headless diorama

 

[Raymond F.]

I think it looks brutal. Good outfit though, someone should start working on a custom replacement head ASAP though.

 

[Protozaius]

Overall, the likeness doesn't look that off to me... but I've been staring at the Asmus Aragorn sculpt for weeks now so my judgement has been impaired.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

People are saying he has a fat face, but actually the face isn't fat enough. This is more than just disproportions between mouth and nose and the eyebrows being too long. The shape of the face is accurate, but not broad enough.

The lines on the figure split the eye, tip of the nose, the mouth, bottom of the chin. See how the lines intersect on the photos of the character.
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Yep, this ain't GoldenEye Sean Bean.

 

[kloug]

Wow... you are the only guy who doesn't compared them. Congratulations.

Really?
I didn't much like LotR, fell alseep while watching each of them. I thought I'd really dig it, I used to love that genre, but maybe I'm not into this anymore..
Then there was some hype around GoT, & because of that hype I thought it'd probably suck. But no, I was blown away. It was theatre quality like LotR, BUT it was ADULT. And I then realized why I didn't like LotR, it wasn't depicting a realistic environment to start with. GoT is, and when I believe in the world, then they can bring in dragons, I'll believe in them too.
So I wouldn't compare the 2, LotR is a nice edulcorated fairy tale, GoT isn't.

Back in the 90's/00's, Sideshow made some GREAT figures at $30-$40 each! All those Buffy and James Bond figures... you didn't have to take out a bank loan or file for divorce if you wanted to keep up with those collections. With Hot Toys and Enterbay comes great outlay of cash. No thanks.

I only looked down at dolls at that time. I only collected a few CY Girls from Takara. But really, dolls of that time were of Barbie-quality. Sure, they were cheap, but..
Really, put a 1/6 doll of year 2000 next to one of today, they just don't compare. I'm not saying the price is justified, but quality has a price.

 

[TheFiend]

Dat outfit. Love what i see, and its about damn time !!

Agreed on the sculpt needing work, but I dont think its as off as some think.

 

[devilof76]

quality has a price.

As does hype.

 

[Michael Crawford]

People are saying he has a fat face, but actually the face isn't fat enough. This is more than just disproportions between mouth and nose and the eyebrows being too long. The shape of the face is accurate, but not broad enough.

The lines on the figure split the eye, tip of the nose, the mouth, bottom of the chin. See how the lines intersect on the photos of the character.
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Unfortunately, it isn't accurate to match proportions exactly from one scale to another. It would be great, especially for artists and sculptors, if this were true, because it would make things simpler. But the reality is that as scale changes, our perception of what is tall, short, fat and thin change, and it's about perception.

For example, a relatively normally proportioned person is about 7 1/2 heads (their head, obviously) tall. They'll seem 'normal' to the eye, and if that number goes up - say 8 1/2 heads - they'll seem to have a head too small for their body. Vice versa, of course. When an artist draws a full body portrait, they know that if they make it 7 1/2 heads tall, it will appear stumpy or with a head to large for the body. It might be accurate, but it won't look that way. Thus the art to adjusting proportion to scale and getting a likeness that is not just about accuracy but human perception of accuracy.

 

[Lawrence]

Unfortunately, it isn't accurate to match proportions exactly from one scale to another. It would be great, especially for artists and sculptors, if this were true, because it would make things simpler. But the reality is that as scale changes, our perception of what is tall, short, fat and thin change, and it's about perception.

For example, a relatively normally proportioned person is about 7 1/2 heads (their head, obviously) tall. They'll seem 'normal' to the eye, and if that number goes up - say 8 1/2 heads - they'll seem to have a head too small for their body. Vice versa, of course. When an artist draws a full body portrait, they know that if they make it 7 1/2 heads tall, it will appear stumpy or with a head to large for the body. It might be accurate, but it won't look that way. Thus the art to adjusting proportion to scale and getting a likeness that is not just about accuracy but human perception of accuracy.

I'm pretty sure if you 3D scanned his head digitally, shrunk it down to 1/6, then printed it, it would look plenty proportional without any adjusting for human perception.

I'm no expert, but my brain tells me I'm making sense

 

[Michael Crawford]

Sorry, but no. If scans could capture a likeness that easily, they would have put sculptors out of business 10 years ago when GG first started using them. Ignoring the slack, zombie look they tend to produce, you loose key features because of scale - crooked noses, imperfect eyes, etc. I'll give you another example - the Aragorn sculpt from Asmus. Lots of people think the forehead is too big, but if you meaure it and mark it against his actual proportions, it's about right. But it DOES look too big in sixth scale.

Scans (and simply good old fashioned matching of detail) of the actual person is a good place to start, but it won't give you a perfect likeness because human perception of detail varies by scale. That's where the art of sculpting human likeness comes in.

 

[karamazov80]

If I were to get a single figure to represent Game of Thrones on the shelf, it would be of this guy. I hope they can work out the likeness kinks. Outfit looks solid.

 

[Lee in MI]

Sorry, but no. If scans could capture a likeness that easily, they would have put sculptors out of business 10 years ago when GG first started using them. Ignoring the slack, zombie look they tend to produce, you loose key features because of scale - crooked noses, imperfect eyes, etc. I'll give you another example - the Aragorn sculpt from Asmus. Lots of people think the forehead is too big, but if you meaure it and mark it against his actual proportions, it's about right. But it DOES look too big in sixth scale.

Scans (and simply good old fashioned matching of detail) of the actual person is a good place to start, but it won't give you a perfect likeness because human perception of detail varies by scale. That's where the art of sculpting human likeness comes in.

What he said...visual accuracy > actual accuracy

 

[Lawrence]

Actual accuracy = Visual accuracy

Sorry, but no. If scans could capture a likeness that easily, they would have put sculptors out of business 10 years ago when GG first started using them. Ignoring the slack, zombie look they tend to produce, you loose key features because of scale - crooked noses, imperfect eyes, etc. I'll give you another example - the Aragorn sculpt from Asmus. Lots of people think the forehead is too big, but if you meaure it and mark it against his actual proportions, it's about right. But it DOES look too big in sixth scale.

Scans (and simply good old fashioned matching of detail) of the actual person is a good place to start, but it won't give you a perfect likeness because human perception of detail varies by scale. That's where the art of sculpting human likeness comes in.

You might have a point about 3D scanning, & printing. I didn't research it. I was thinking about the new WWE wrestling game where they scan the wrestlers faces, & wind up with a really nice looking polygon model. I imagined that could be printed. Maybe not. Forget that argument then. My point is, I don't see why any proportion adjustments need to be made, when something is scaled down, for it to look right.

For instance. If somebody used magic lol) & actually shrunk his actual head down to 1/6 scale, it should look absolutely spot on, with no need for somebody to squish his features around to make him look more accurate to his 1/1 counterpart.