Tom Hardy is Venom (2018)

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They never gave up the Spidey license as I understood it. It was more of a collaborative deal, and so I always figured Holland would be involved at some level, even if we don't exactly see Venom teaming with Thor or what have you.
 
Not at all..i’m Just saying Hollywood feels like they have to throw in so much diversity to make a point for films nowadays i’ve noticed that they don’t want to show a villain as a Caucasian anymore especially in comic based films.

Trust me I get the world we live in at the moment. I don’t watch comic based movies just to witness so much diversity . It’s not going to offend me if I see the typical white male in charge of stirring things up like in the past.

They couldn't care less about casting another Caucasian villain, man. Diversity in movies means more money for the studio, let's call it "The Fast And The Furious Effect": it's just business. Only a few like Lucasfilm take it to the grotesque extreme by casting untalented or unfitted performers just for the sake of completing their checklist. Having Ahmed in the role of the villain tells me that Sony learned a thing or two after Ghostbusters. :lol

As long the cast is talented I don't mind if it looks like the Burger King Kids Club, LOTR or Black Panther. :dunno

Now let's hope this one turns out fine.
 
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I wonder if that is Cassidy to the left.
 
Not at all..i’m Just saying Hollywood feels like they have to throw in so much diversity to make a point for films nowadays i’ve noticed that they don’t want to show a villain as a Caucasian anymore especially in comic based films.

Trust me I get the world we live in at the moment. I don’t watch comic based movies just to witness so much diversity . It’s not going to offend me if I see the typical white male in charge of stirring things up like in the past.

Is this a joke? BLACK PANTHER, THOR RAGNAROK, SPIDER-MAN HOMECOMING, GUARDIANS 2, LOGAN, DEADPOOL, DR. STRANGE, CIVIL WAR, ANT-MAN, and every Marvel and DC movie prior had white villains.

*Unless Asgardians and living planets don’t qualify as Caucasian. Then that makes the list a bit shorter.
 
Well to be fair that's just one person in one film, otherwise I'm not attracted to anyone over the age of maybe 38. Plus, Grace isn't even hot in any shape or form. Not quite the ugliest person on the planet, but still, not hot at all.

Disgust is in order.

the day Chakor met Grace for the first time:


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The Sony/Disney deal is collaborative. I do believe the hitch to it was that Sony pretty much makes the money when it is through Misney, while Marvel can use Spidey characters, and Sony can also use Marvel characters. One specific instance was having a sinister six movie, with Spidey and Cap fighting against them.

I don't this needs Spidey to tell the story. If that is the issue for people, then why bother with 90% of CBM? Logan wasn't close to OML, or DOFP paled to the comics and animated series. I think it is actually looking pretty good. Tendrils do look pretty bad, and larger eyes would have been better. At a quick glance it feels close to Grace's suit.


I'm with Crows on that, Grace looks fine in that video.:drool
 
Meh. If your a huge venom fan like me you’d be a bit irked that they are excluding important aspects of venom’s origin. Sony is a very stupid company when it comes to Spider-Man . They rather make a venom movie that has no connection to the mcu and confuse people then playing nice like universal and letting the character just do its own thing.
They honestly think villain spin offs will work. Venom maybe but everyone else not so much. Like a movie with kraven or green goblin just flying around would be interesting.
It’s mostly arad and tolmach who failed to make there crap universe work try to give it one more shot. While venom looks amazing, will the movie be good is the question. Sony is great at making trailers but the end product always ends up lacking. But we shall see!
 
I disagree on that. I wouldn't want this anywhere near MCU. Sony does a good job with Spidey, it's mostly the business interventions that ruin it.

Venom has a ton of anti-hero stories, but personally I would be in for more symbiotes. Thing with Venom is that he is almost always able to beat Spidey. Venom doesn't rampage for the sake of money or whatever, it is vengeance. So I can see why a lack of Spidey lowers hype, but other symbiotes are able to take on Venom 1v1. Plus some of them would be badass to see on the screen imo.

I'm just saying that I dont have a huge issue with this, but I can see why people dont agree.
 
The Sony/Disney deal is collaborative. I do believe the hitch to it was that Sony pretty much makes the money when it is through Misney, while Marvel can use Spidey characters, and Sony can also use Marvel characters. One specific instance was having a sinister six movie, with Spidey and Cap fighting against them.

I don't this needs Spidey to tell the story. If that is the issue for people, then why bother with 90% of CBM? Logan wasn't close to OML, or DOFP paled to the comics and animated series. I think it is actually looking pretty good. Tendrils do look pretty bad, and larger eyes would have been better. At a quick glance it feels close to Grace's suit.


I'm with Crows on that, Grace looks fine in that video.:drool


WHAT???

Is this a thing????
 
Meh. If your a huge venom fan like me you’d be a bit irked that they are excluding important aspects of venom’s origin. Sony is a very stupid company when it comes to Spider-Man . They rather make a venom movie that has no connection to the mcu and confuse people then playing nice like universal and letting the character just do its own thing.
They honestly think villain spin offs will work. Venom maybe but everyone else not so much. Like a movie with kraven or green goblin just flying around would be interesting.
It’s mostly arad and tolmach who failed to make there crap universe work try to give it one more shot. While venom looks amazing, will the movie be good is the question. Sony is great at making trailers but the end product always ends up lacking. But we shall see!

watch Sony do an intro like the intros of the original spiderman but in this case giving you flashbacks of Spiderman having the symbiote :lol:lol

They will even get say it was before infinity wars but after homecoming and have really quick flashes of scenes of this spiderman in the black suit :lol
 
The movie isn't even out yet. :lol

I say keep Spidey far away from the MCU. Iron Man was the reason I never bothered with Homecoming, just can't stand the character. I hope Venom is a good stand alone movie, clamoring for trilogies, universes and what not is like being grateful for being milked as a consumer and getting cookie cutter soulless products like the MCU in return.
 
Meh. If your a huge venom fan like me you’d be a bit irked that they are excluding important aspects of venom’s origin. Sony is a very stupid company when it comes to Spider-Man . They rather make a venom movie that has no connection to the mcu and confuse people then playing nice like universal and letting the character just do its own thing.
They honestly think villain spin offs will work. Venom maybe but everyone else not so much. Like a movie with kraven or green goblin just flying around would be interesting.
It’s mostly arad and tolmach who failed to make there crap universe work try to give it one more shot. While venom looks amazing, will the movie be good is the question. Sony is great at making trailers but the end product always ends up lacking. But we shall see!

How civilian. I'm laughing at this while bench pressing 500 pounds in front my auteur buddies. Such disdain.

Nobody cares about childish superheroes like Spidey, people want hard R rated cb movies. Eddie Brock's nuanced character development will **** on anything the MCU can offer you simpleton.

Once venom sets the world on fire, Sony can continue the sinister six movies and give us real cb movies for men. :lecture
 
I disagree on that. I wouldn't want this anywhere near MCU. Sony does a good job with Spidey, it's mostly the business interventions that ruin it.

Venom has a ton of anti-hero stories, but personally I would be in for more symbiotes. Thing with Venom is that he is almost always able to beat Spidey. Venom doesn't rampage for the sake of money or whatever, it is vengeance. So I can see why a lack of Spidey lowers hype, but other symbiotes are able to take on Venom 1v1. Plus some of them would be badass to see on the screen imo.

I'm just saying that I dont have a huge issue with this, but I can see why people dont agree.

Nah son. Sony doesn’t do a good job with Spider-Man.
Sm3- Sony interfered . Cluttered movie
Asm- premature reboot and was a complete step down to the original. Just to hold the rights.
Asm2- a horrible mess of a movie that tried to build a universe but fell on its ***.

Sony is awful with the character. Venom works best as a villain who is driven by lust and revenge. He becomes an anti hero to be better than Spider-Man . I know people don’t want mcu cause it’s safe or whatever but when it comes to Sony I’d rather have it a thousand times over. So of course while things look great, it’s best not to trust them cause they will find a way to **** it up. Venom vs the life foundation isn’t exactly memorable either. Cheapens the character of venom by having 40 symbiotes running around. Carnage works cause he’s a lose canon and opposite to venom.

It’s funny cause Asm2 spidey has the best looking suit before homecoming. Sony is good at designs when it wants to. Sometimes the villisns suck *** design wise
 
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How civilian. I'm laughing at this while bench pressing 500 pounds in front my auteur buddies. Such disdain.

Nobody cares about childish superheroes like Spidey, people want hard R rated cb movies. Eddie Brock's nuanced character development will **** on anything the MCU can offer you simpleton.

Once venom sets the world on fire, Sony can continue the sinister six movies and give us real cb movies for men. :lecture

O no! He’s hack his account like he hacked the forum!
 
Meh. If your a huge venom fan like me you’d be a bit irked that they are excluding important aspects of venom’s origin. Sony is a very stupid company when it comes to Spider-Man . They rather make a venom movie that has no connection to the mcu and confuse people then playing nice like universal and letting the character just do its own thing.

Prolly because Spidey movies, even the unpopular ones to geeks, made lots of money.

Hulk, neither flick produced much interest.

And if this flick fails, eh, expect a MCU version down the line. No harm.

As for hulk, really not much else to do besides 'leave Betty alone" and hulk smash. MCU already used up gladiator hulk.
 
Funny thing that for such an old and bad movie people still talk about Spider-Man 3 while no one talks anymore about recent "good" :)lol) films like Age Of Ultron or Civil War.

20 movies in the MCU and not a single memorable quote in them. The only thing Disney does better than Sony is shill recruiting.
 
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