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Either way, we are going to get a gloss black one from Toynami. Damn, i hate how June is long way away and their delay crap is still bugging me.
So I guess those who doesn't like the gloss black, there's always a professional out there that can repaint the Batmobile matte black
Either way, we are going to get a gloss black one from Toynami. Damn, i hate how June is long way away and their delay crap is still bugging me.
So I guess those who doesn't like the gloss black, there's always a professional out there that can repaint the Batmobile matte black
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They painted it a pearl silver so that it would show up better on film at night. At night, a silver car can look black. However, it wasn't a regular silver. It was a special silver that would look silver on the highlights where the light would hit certain parts so that you could see the car, but it would look darker, almost black in other areas where the light did not hit it. It is sort of like Darth Vader's mask. Darth Vader's mask is not all black. There are silver sections on his face in order to show the shape of the face better on film. It's a very similar concept. Just look at the car in the video link I provided. (sorry I don't know how to do vidcaps, if I did know, I would have done one of the second link I posted, where the Batmobile is first shown. If anyone else can, it would be great.) From the footage in the video I provided, you can see that there is no way that the car is black. Terry Ackland Snow said quote "We didn't want it to be jet black" "We wanted it look like a beetle". You can see in the color still shots of the car with the people standing next to it that the car plainly isn't black,and it is particularly obvious when you compare those pics to ANY photos of any other BLACK Batmobile in ANY light.
As far as why There are no Batmobiles painted the correct 1989 Batman color, there are two possibilities I can think of: 1 - The Batman Returns Batmobile, which is basically an identical car, WAS painted gloss black, most people assume because all other Batmobiles were black, the 1989 one must have been black too, and so the fact that it doesn't look glossy means that it must have had a matte finish.
2; The exact color paint of the 1989 Batmobile is too difficult or costly to duplicate. You certainly can't touch up a car this color without it showing up like a sore thumb, but you can touch up a solid black car, and make it look presentable.
( In fact, the reason why the finish looks matte is that the fine metallic flakes in the paint causes that appearance, because it is basically metal dust in a paint medium, which subdues the gloss. The greatest gloss always comes from have as flat and smooth a surface area with which to reflect the light as possible. I realize that flat black paint is fairly flat, but it isn't near as smooth a surface as gloss paint. If you polish metal, the principle is the same. )
Back to the Darth Vader similarity, none of the original Kenner Darth vaders had silver sections on the face. Why? more complicated and more costly. Everyone assumes his face is totally black, but it is not, and yet, almost every single Darth vader toy or image of any kind never had those silver highlights. As far as the Batmobile, I remember going to Taco Bell when the 1989 Batman movie came out, to collect the cups, and the Batmobile they printed on the cup was clearly black. I was frustrated, because I knew it wasn't black, because I heard the guy who helped design and build the Batmobile say so.
The paint might even be a color shifting pearl, which shows a totally different color depending upon the angle you look at it from. There are color shifting pearls that go from a purple with no hint of gold, to gold with no hint of purple, with a gradual transition of gold to purple in between. Maybe this Batmobile paint shifts from silver to near black the same way. I don't know for sure.
What I do know is, is that it is not straight black gloss, matte or flat paint, nor is it a regular metallic black,(which I have seen before), nor is it regular metallic silver, nor is it any kind of pearl silver I have seen on any car, nor is it any kind of chrome type paint I have seen before. I have been to car shows, seen magazines, seen a lot of pics of cars online, and I have never seen another car painted with the same paint as the 89 Batmobile. This is a complicated paint formula to be sure, and perhaps unique, as in more unique as far as this type of paint than any other.
As far as Batmobiles in museums, Most people think that the Batmobile should be black, and black is easier to do than the real color. In addition, the Batman Returns Batmobile WAS gloss black, which was an authentic Batmobile paint, on a car design which was similar if not the same as the 1989 Batmobile. It seems to be a reasonable thing to do. However, I still want to see a Batmobile painted that very special pearl silver beetleesque color, because it was the only Batmobile ever painted that color. That color makes the 1989 Batmobile extra special and unique, IMO.
Now, for another question you touched on with the Superman costume: Was the Batmobile SUPPOSED to be black, but was painted this color just to appear well on film, or was this Batmobile supposed to be this special color, to be different than every other Batmobile, which was black? I believe it was both. I do think that they knew that they would be filming the Batmobile exclusively at night, and so they knew it would be too difficult to see on film if it was black, so they thought, ok, then we will paint it silver, then. They could have painted it dark blue like in the comics, but that still would not have shown up as well as the special color they used, and I guess they felt that this color would be more menacing than blue, and I think they were right.
They painted it a pearl silver so that it would show up better on film at night. At night, a silver car can look black. However, it wasn't a regular silver. It was a special silver that would look silver on the highlights where the light would hit certain parts so that you could see the car, but it would look darker, almost black in other areas where the light did not hit it. It is sort of like Darth Vader's mask. Darth Vader's mask is not all black. There are silver sections on his face in order to show the shape of the face better on film. It's a very similar concept. Just look at the car in the video link I provided. (sorry I don't know how to do vidcaps, if I did know, I would have done one of the second link I posted, where the Batmobile is first shown. If anyone else can, it would be great.) From the footage in the video I provided, you can see that there is no way that the car is black. Terry Ackland Snow said quote "We didn't want it to be jet black" "We wanted it look like a beetle". You can see in the color still shots of the car with the people standing next to it that the car plainly isn't black,and it is particularly obvious when you compare those pics to ANY photos of any other BLACK Batmobile in ANY light.
As far as why There are no Batmobiles painted the correct 1989 Batman color, there are two possibilities I can think of: 1 - The Batman Returns Batmobile, which is basically an identical car, WAS painted gloss black, most people assume because all other Batmobiles were black, the 1989 one must have been black too, and so the fact that it doesn't look glossy means that it must have had a matte finish.
2; The exact color paint of the 1989 Batmobile is too difficult or costly to duplicate. You certainly can't touch up a car this color without it showing up like a sore thumb, but you can touch up a solid black car, and make it look presentable.
( In fact, the reason why the finish looks matte is that the fine metallic flakes in the paint causes that appearance, because it is basically metal dust in a paint medium, which subdues the gloss. The greatest gloss always comes from have as flat and smooth a surface area with which to reflect the light as possible. I realize that flat black paint is fairly flat, but it isn't near as smooth a surface as gloss paint. If you polish metal, the principle is the same. )
Back to the Darth Vader similarity, none of the original Kenner Darth vaders had silver sections on the face. Why? more complicated and more costly. Everyone assumes his face is totally black, but it is not, and yet, almost every single Darth vader toy or image of any kind never had those silver highlights. As far as the Batmobile, I remember going to Taco Bell when the 1989 Batman movie came out, to collect the cups, and the Batmobile they printed on the cup was clearly black. I was frustrated, because I knew it wasn't black, because I heard the guy who helped design and build the Batmobile say so.
The paint might even be a color shifting pearl, which shows a totally different color depending upon the angle you look at it from. There are color shifting pearls that go from a purple with no hint of gold, to gold with no hint of purple, with a gradual transition of gold to purple in between. Maybe this Batmobile paint shifts from silver to near black the same way. I don't know for sure.
What I do know is, is that it is not straight black gloss, matte or flat paint, nor is it a regular metallic black,(which I have seen before), nor is it regular metallic silver, nor is it any kind of pearl silver I have seen on any car, nor is it any kind of chrome type paint I have seen before. I have been to car shows, seen magazines, seen a lot of pics of cars online, and I have never seen another car painted with the same paint as the 89 Batmobile. This is a complicated paint formula to be sure, and perhaps unique, as in more unique as far as this type of paint than any other.
As far as Batmobiles in museums, Most people think that the Batmobile should be black, and black is easier to do than the real color. In addition, the Batman Returns Batmobile WAS gloss black, which was an authentic Batmobile paint, on a car design which was similar if not the same as the 1989 Batmobile. It seems to be a reasonable thing to do. However, I still want to see a Batmobile painted that very special pearl silver beetleesque color, because it was the only Batmobile ever painted that color. That color makes the 1989 Batmobile extra special and unique, IMO.
Now, for another question you touched on with the Superman costume: Was the Batmobile SUPPOSED to be black, but was painted this color just to appear well on film, or was this Batmobile supposed to be this special color, to be different than every other Batmobile, which was black? I believe it was both. I do think that they knew that they would be filming the Batmobile exclusively at night, and so they knew it would be too difficult to see on film if it was black, so they thought, ok, then we will paint it silver, then. They could have painted it dark blue like in the comics, but that still would not have shown up as well as the special color they used, and I guess they felt that this color would be more menacing than blue, and I think they were right.
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There was a gloss black version, and a pearl silver version, and no matte black version, so I would either leave it alone, or find the right color silver pearl. Frankly, I would probably just leave it gloss black, to preserve the originality of it, but that's just me.
The Batman forever Batmobile was matte black, and has a totally different look than the 1989 Batmobile.
Either way, we are going to get a gloss black one from Toynami. Damn, i hate how June is long way away and their delay crap is still bugging me.
So I guess those who doesn't like the gloss black, there's always a professional out there that can repaint the Batmobile matte black
There was a gloss black version, and a pearl silver version, and no matte black version, so I would either leave it alone, or find the right color silver pearl. Frankly, I would probably just leave it gloss black, to preserve the originality of it, but that's just me.
The Batman forever Batmobile was matte black, and has a totally different look than the 1989 Batmobile.
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I saw that page yesterday, in fact, when I was trying to find pics or info about the Batmobile paint. The pic with the blonde guy next to the Batmobile replica looks like matte black, which is close in appearance to the real color, but is too dark, and just isn't the same. I'm sure it is a LOT easier to paint a car that matte black than the original color. Ok, seriously, forget about your preconception that the Batmobile must be black. Just put that aside, and look upon the video link I posted objective, with fresh eyes. What color does that car look to you? To me, definitely not black, but not really a true silver either, and that's the thing. You figure it must be one or the other in your head, and the Batmobile ISN'T true silver, right, and it didn't look true silver in the movie, so you figure, it MUST have been black, even though it didn't look truly black, either. Look at the Batman Forever Batmobile and compare. THAT car was matte black.
Compare these pics.
I saw that page yesterday, in fact, when I was trying to find pics or info about the Batmobile paint. The pic with the blonde guy next to the Batmobile replica looks like matte black, which is close in appearance to the real color, but is too dark, and just isn't the same. I'm sure it is a LOT easier to paint a car that matte black than the original color. Ok, seriously, forget about your preconception that the Batmobile must be black. Just put that aside, and look upon the video link I posted objective, with fresh eyes. What color does that car look to you? To me, definitely not black, but not really a true silver either, and that's the thing. You figure it must be one or the other in your head, and the Batmobile ISN'T true silver, right, and it didn't look true silver in the movie, so you figure, it MUST have been black, even though it didn't look truly black, either. Look at the Batman Forever Batmobile and compare. THAT car was matte black.
Compare these pics.
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Here we go. Same car, three different colors. One gloss black, one matte black, and one pearl silver. Compare. They ALL look very different.
Now, maybe you prefer the gloss black look of the Batman Returns Batmobile to the pearl silver look of the 1989 Batman Batmobile, and that's fine. I think the reason why they changed the color to gloss black for the Batman Returns Batmobile is because a black Batmobile is what people expect, and is the most quintessential, classic Batmobile color, and of course, they are right. However, just because you and most other people prefer the Batmobile to be black does not mean that the 1989 Batmobile was black.
Here we go. Same car, three different colors. One gloss black, one matte black, and one pearl silver. Compare. They ALL look very different.
Now, maybe you prefer the gloss black look of the Batman Returns Batmobile to the pearl silver look of the 1989 Batman Batmobile, and that's fine. I think the reason why they changed the color to gloss black for the Batman Returns Batmobile is because a black Batmobile is what people expect, and is the most quintessential, classic Batmobile color, and of course, they are right. However, just because you and most other people prefer the Batmobile to be black does not mean that the 1989 Batmobile was black.
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The picture of the Batmobile at that car show above does indeed look like gun metal silver. That explains it. Thank you.
The picture of the Batmobile at that car show above does indeed look like gun metal silver. That explains it. Thank you.
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In this picture, I have pointed out some parts of the car where various colors of the pearl effect appears, so that it looks like a beetle.
Before I would paint a 1989 Batmobile matte black, I would instead use Alsa's ghost chrome paint in titanium. It doesn't have the beetle multi color effect of the right color, but the paint seems to have a similar metallic look to it, and the shade of silver is approximate, if a little dark.
Here is the Ghost Chrome, 4th from the left.
Alsa's "Burning Ice" mystic paint is a color flopping pearl that is similar to that on the Batmobile, except the Burning Ice is too purple and not blue green enough, and it is too light. Looking at this "speed shape" painted with this paint shows you that it has a very similar appearance to the look of the Batmobile, and that the Batmobile is painted with no ordinary silver paint however dark it might be.
As an aside, although not totally correct, I think that the Batmobile would look totally awesome painted with the chrome paint.
In this picture, I have pointed out some parts of the car where various colors of the pearl effect appears, so that it looks like a beetle.
Before I would paint a 1989 Batmobile matte black, I would instead use Alsa's ghost chrome paint in titanium. It doesn't have the beetle multi color effect of the right color, but the paint seems to have a similar metallic look to it, and the shade of silver is approximate, if a little dark.
Here is the Ghost Chrome, 4th from the left.
Alsa's "Burning Ice" mystic paint is a color flopping pearl that is similar to that on the Batmobile, except the Burning Ice is too purple and not blue green enough, and it is too light. Looking at this "speed shape" painted with this paint shows you that it has a very similar appearance to the look of the Batmobile, and that the Batmobile is painted with no ordinary silver paint however dark it might be.
As an aside, although not totally correct, I think that the Batmobile would look totally awesome painted with the chrome paint.
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I have looked at all the pics on here, I don't see gun metal silver, but it is gun-metal grey/black. Which is a grey/silver/black hybrid. Not pure black. Under the lights the metallic/silver is more obvious, whilst the shadows look dark still. Looks like a handgun or shotgun barrel. Reflects the colors around it and it is effected by the strength of light hitting it, almost mother of pearl at times. I have read that they wanted it to look dangerous like a weapon, which is why they painted it to look like a gun barrel.It is beautiful.
How cool is the 89 Mobile?. By far the best ever built imo..
I have looked at all the pics on here, I don't see gun metal silver, but it is gun-metal grey/black. Which is a grey/silver/black hybrid. Not pure black. Under the lights the metallic/silver is more obvious, whilst the shadows look dark still. Looks like a handgun or shotgun barrel. Reflects the colors around it and it is effected by the strength of light hitting it, almost mother of pearl at times. I have read that they wanted it to look dangerous like a weapon, which is why they painted it to look like a gun barrel.It is beautiful.
How cool is the 89 Mobile?. By far the best ever built imo..
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thank you for the great explanation on the previous posts as well , you are correct and give a great point about the vader mask , I owned. one at one point ant it is true , it looked black but it had many areas painted dark silver similar to the photo of the silver batmobile , and was awesome , I can see how this car can look very cool with the mir a paints and would be something to look into but boy. it would have to be done perfect or someone can really mess it up. , thanks again
thank you for the great explanation on the previous posts as well , you are correct and give a great point about the vader mask , I owned. one at one point ant it is true , it looked black but it had many areas painted dark silver similar to the photo of the silver batmobile , and was awesome , I can see how this car can look very cool with the mir a paints and would be something to look into but boy. it would have to be done perfect or someone can really mess it up. , thanks again
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I just want my Batmobile now. The delay just suck majorly.
The wait is rediculous, whatever dark shade/color it comes with, I couldn't care less. WB wanted Toynami to do the Batman Returns paint scheme so so be it.
Let's just all look at the bright side, at least we are getting a great scale replica of the Anton Furst designed Batmobile that we have been all waiting for.
I dunno how long you guys been waiting for this, but I have been dreaming and waiting for at least 17 years for a studio scale Batmobile for the Tim Burton movies.
Next up.... is the real life size scale for me. YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, enough from me I am going back to my big drawing board because I have to illustrate/design some bad-ass diorama scene set for my baby, the Batmobile !
on the mean time, check out my website for some nice illustrations and eye candy by me........
I just want my Batmobile now. The delay just suck majorly.
The wait is rediculous, whatever dark shade/color it comes with, I couldn't care less. WB wanted Toynami to do the Batman Returns paint scheme so so be it.
Let's just all look at the bright side, at least we are getting a great scale replica of the Anton Furst designed Batmobile that we have been all waiting for.
I dunno how long you guys been waiting for this, but I have been dreaming and waiting for at least 17 years for a studio scale Batmobile for the Tim Burton movies.
Next up.... is the real life size scale for me. YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, enough from me I am going back to my big drawing board because I have to illustrate/design some bad-ass diorama scene set for my baby, the Batmobile !
on the mean time, check out my website for some nice illustrations and eye candy by me........
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your right bud I have been waiting for something like this forever lol
and finally dream come true
your right bud I have been waiting for something like this forever lol
and finally dream come true
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Yes, the shooting car was silver - but I'd agree that the "as perceived" color is more important for a collectible. Only a tiny percentage would want a silver batmobile over the perceived black one. Same with Gandalf the White - his robes were varying shades of yellow, not white - but no one would want a Gandalf the Yellow.
Yes, the shooting car was silver - but I'd agree that the "as perceived" color is more important for a collectible. Only a tiny percentage would want a silver batmobile over the perceived black one. Same with Gandalf the White - his robes were varying shades of yellow, not white - but no one would want a Gandalf the Yellow.
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Yeah, that's exactly it Dave. I frankly would be more upset with Toynami putting out a silver Batmobile than one that has a gloss over coat. Sure, the silver Batmobile would be totally accurate but under regular lighting it would look silver. You'd have to have studio lights in a dark room to make it look black and like it did in the film and how we really think it should look. Just give me a matte black Batmobile and things will be hunky dory.
Yeah, that's exactly it Dave. I frankly would be more upset with Toynami putting out a silver Batmobile than one that has a gloss over coat. Sure, the silver Batmobile would be totally accurate but under regular lighting it would look silver. You'd have to have studio lights in a dark room to make it look black and like it did in the film and how we really think it should look. Just give me a matte black Batmobile and things will be hunky dory.
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I hear what you are saying, but I could always perceive that the 89 Batmobile was silver, and definitely not black, even in the movie on screen. It had a silvery and metallic appearance that no kind of black paint has. My dad always had a black 57 Chevy, so I have seen that black finned car in about every kind of lighting, and in photos, as well as going to many car shows. I am a car connoisseur, and so i know how a black car and a silver car looks in about every lighting that a car is typically in, so it was obvious to me when I first saw the 89 Batmobile that it wasn't black, that it was instead some sort of silver.
My father remembers the car being silver in the movie from when he saw it in the theaters way back in 89, as he has excellent color perception, and aced all of the Air Force color tests. (You need perfect color perception to be a pilot in the Air Force) As to why most people never perceived that car to be black is pretty baffling to me, but I can only guess that they just haven't had enough experience with black cars to tell a black car from a silver car at night.
I agree that black is the EXPECTED color, although whether it is the perceived color is a matter of individual color perception.
the 89 car was silver, and the batman Returns one was black, so I don't know why they didn't just call it the Batman Returns Batmobile, since they are the same car anyway, except for the color difference, because at least then, it would be 100% accurate.
If I was to pay $2000 for any collectible, I would want absolute, total accuracy in every way, every angle, curve, contour of every part, every proportion, as well as the color of every part to be how it actually was, rather than how it appeared on screen. That way, I can light it however I want, and make it look like it did in the movie, or show it as it actually was. I would find that to be a more interesting collectible than one with it's color adjusted.
On a related note, what do you think of Darth Vader's mask being painted with silver sections just so it shows up better on film? Do you think that a replica should also have parts painted silver, or do you think that it should be all black, because that is what people expect? After all, is Darth Vader REALLY going to have parts of his mask painted silver just so it could show off the shape of his mask in order that people could better take pictures of him? I would be curious to hear your viewpoint on this.
I hear what you are saying, but I could always perceive that the 89 Batmobile was silver, and definitely not black, even in the movie on screen. It had a silvery and metallic appearance that no kind of black paint has. My dad always had a black 57 Chevy, so I have seen that black finned car in about every kind of lighting, and in photos, as well as going to many car shows. I am a car connoisseur, and so i know how a black car and a silver car looks in about every lighting that a car is typically in, so it was obvious to me when I first saw the 89 Batmobile that it wasn't black, that it was instead some sort of silver.
My father remembers the car being silver in the movie from when he saw it in the theaters way back in 89, as he has excellent color perception, and aced all of the Air Force color tests. (You need perfect color perception to be a pilot in the Air Force) As to why most people never perceived that car to be black is pretty baffling to me, but I can only guess that they just haven't had enough experience with black cars to tell a black car from a silver car at night.
I agree that black is the EXPECTED color, although whether it is the perceived color is a matter of individual color perception.
the 89 car was silver, and the batman Returns one was black, so I don't know why they didn't just call it the Batman Returns Batmobile, since they are the same car anyway, except for the color difference, because at least then, it would be 100% accurate.
If I was to pay $2000 for any collectible, I would want absolute, total accuracy in every way, every angle, curve, contour of every part, every proportion, as well as the color of every part to be how it actually was, rather than how it appeared on screen. That way, I can light it however I want, and make it look like it did in the movie, or show it as it actually was. I would find that to be a more interesting collectible than one with it's color adjusted.
On a related note, what do you think of Darth Vader's mask being painted with silver sections just so it shows up better on film? Do you think that a replica should also have parts painted silver, or do you think that it should be all black, because that is what people expect? After all, is Darth Vader REALLY going to have parts of his mask painted silver just so it could show off the shape of his mask in order that people could better take pictures of him? I would be curious to hear your viewpoint on this.
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I received it and...it has a bad paint :/
I received it and...it has a bad paint :/
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Armored_Berserk, sorry to hear you are upset with your paintjob. Honestly, it's not terrible...and i prob wouldn't have noticed it if you haven't pointed it out...but you spent a nice chunk of change for a MINT COPY and if you're unsatisfied...SEND IT BACK. what ever you choose, i really like that batwing and i would LOVE add it to my collection...some day
this really is a NASTY collectible, from one of my all-time favorite films...yeah, i gotta get it!
Armored_Berserk, sorry to hear you are upset with your paintjob. Honestly, it's not terrible...and i prob wouldn't have noticed it if you haven't pointed it out...but you spent a nice chunk of change for a MINT COPY and if you're unsatisfied...SEND IT BACK. what ever you choose, i really like that batwing and i would LOVE add it to my collection...some day
this really is a NASTY collectible, from one of my all-time favorite films...yeah, i gotta get it!
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Thanks Bezzerkerr, it's worst in real than in photos, believe me. For that price i expected better paint....
But you are right, it's an awesome replica, far better in person. Hope i can get a decent replacement.
Thanks Bezzerkerr, it's worst in real than in photos, believe me. For that price i expected better paint....
But you are right, it's an awesome replica, far better in person. Hope i can get a decent replacement.
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Re: Toynami/Cinemaquette presents: BATWING & (coming soon) BATMOBILE.
The way I see it, when it comes to planes and weathering, there is always imperfections.
look at all the weatherings on real life jet fighters, they are heavy and doesn't look perfect. Look at the Lockheed-Martin F-117A Nighthawk for instance and you'll know what I mean.
The way I see it, when it comes to planes and weathering, there is always imperfections.
look at all the weatherings on real life jet fighters, they are heavy and doesn't look perfect. Look at the Lockheed-Martin F-117A Nighthawk for instance and you'll know what I mean.
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Re: Toynami/Cinemaquette presents: BATWING & (coming soon) BATMOBILE.
There are almost always imperfections. It looks like these defects are a direct result of performing the weathering process. Maybe they used solvent on a rag to thin the paint in certain areas to give the weathering effect, and then went too far in some areas, and dripped the solvent on the paint like a slobber, and then wiped it off to leave that water spot like mark.
To Armored_Berzerk,
If you had the right color model spray paint, I think this would be a fairly easy fix if you have the skills. Just mask off the surrounding areas and fog it in, by misting it from the right distance on order to add just enough color to the area, and cover up the water spot like areas the same way. You wouldn't paint it thick or solid all the way up to the masking you would use, just staying a few centimeters away, with a gradual fade to the nice paint area with the spray paint. If needed, you could dry brush some of the weathering how you want it. What bothers me most about the paint is that the overall texture of the paint is out of scale, like it has really severe orange peel at that scale, whereas in the movie, I seem to recall it being totally smooth and flat like the paint on the Stealth fighter aircraft. That would be a tremendous amount of work to sand it down properly with ultra fine paper, like 3000, or 2500 maybe.
It's your piece and your money, so it's up to you how you want to handle it. For the money, I think it should be right. On the other hand, it would be helpful if you could see more examples of how most of these pieces look, so you can get a fair idea of how they are made. It's possible that they don't make any of them perfect enough. It's hard to say. I suspect that there are maybe 10 really good ones, 15 kind of bad ones, and the rest falls in between.
There are almost always imperfections. It looks like these defects are a direct result of performing the weathering process. Maybe they used solvent on a rag to thin the paint in certain areas to give the weathering effect, and then went too far in some areas, and dripped the solvent on the paint like a slobber, and then wiped it off to leave that water spot like mark.
To Armored_Berzerk,
If you had the right color model spray paint, I think this would be a fairly easy fix if you have the skills. Just mask off the surrounding areas and fog it in, by misting it from the right distance on order to add just enough color to the area, and cover up the water spot like areas the same way. You wouldn't paint it thick or solid all the way up to the masking you would use, just staying a few centimeters away, with a gradual fade to the nice paint area with the spray paint. If needed, you could dry brush some of the weathering how you want it. What bothers me most about the paint is that the overall texture of the paint is out of scale, like it has really severe orange peel at that scale, whereas in the movie, I seem to recall it being totally smooth and flat like the paint on the Stealth fighter aircraft. That would be a tremendous amount of work to sand it down properly with ultra fine paper, like 3000, or 2500 maybe.
It's your piece and your money, so it's up to you how you want to handle it. For the money, I think it should be right. On the other hand, it would be helpful if you could see more examples of how most of these pieces look, so you can get a fair idea of how they are made. It's possible that they don't make any of them perfect enough. It's hard to say. I suspect that there are maybe 10 really good ones, 15 kind of bad ones, and the rest falls in between.
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