Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

[Kratos]

True. I liked Armageddon a great deal as well as the oft neglected Deep Impact.

Yea Armageddon took the Spotlight off Deep Impact

 

[Ra88]

If by good you mean raping all of the characters that were established during BW, then yes, it definitely succeeded in that. It was pitched as continuing the tale of the survivors of the Beast Wars. They literally remade every character from the ground up. Every. Single. Character. I didn't recognize any of the key personality traits of any one individual. Epic failure.

Oh, you're definately right with that, and it is still my biggest gripe with the show (well, save for Cheetor, he was the only one who seemed to grow naturally).

But while it completely failed at keeping the characters true to the previous show, it did have some very good writing. It touched upon a lot of issues that kids probably never saw in a cartoon up to that point: an entire planet wiped out, having to hide from a mindless army, heavy spiritualism, feelings of loss and grief, a very uncertain future, nature versus technology...Even being brainwashed to become something that is the complete opposite of who you are, in Silverbolt's case.

Again, it was a bad Transformer show and an even worse continuation to Beast Wars. But on it's own...It's pretty good. If it would have had actual transformers and characters that continued from where they left off in Beast Wars (or even a whole new cast), then it would have been much better received.

 

[The Chaver]

I have the intire Beast Wars DVD set,I watch it atleast once a year.The coolest thing about the series is how they tied in the old Transformers series in with theirs.I almost creamed my jeans when they first discovered they had time traveled back to when the original Autobots and decepticons had crash landed on earth.Too cool!

All that talk of the backstory was just such good story telling.There could have been a movie made out of it,it was that good.

 

[Nuka Cola Kidd]

Over at tfw 2005 they released pics of the toy of the constructicon that destroys the bridge at the end of the teaser that will along with multiple other bots make up Devastator...so just imagining the size of only one part of devastator compared to optimus is unreal.

 

[Scar]

Oh, you're definately right with that, and it is still my biggest gripe with the show (well, save for Cheetor, he was the only one who seemed to grow naturally).

But while it completely failed at keeping the characters true to the previous show, it did have some very good writing. It touched upon a lot of issues that kids probably never saw in a cartoon up to that point: an entire planet wiped out, having to hide from a mindless army, heavy spiritualism, feelings of loss and grief, a very uncertain future, nature versus technology...Even being brainwashed to become something that is the complete opposite of who you are, in Silverbolt's case.

Again, it was a bad Transformer show and an even worse continuation to Beast Wars. But on it's own...It's pretty good. If it would have had actual transformers and characters that continued from where they left off in Beast Wars (or even a whole new cast), then it would have been much better received.

I see where you're coming from. If you take Beast Machines completely divorced from the rest of the Transformers mythos, then it's alright.
- Rattrap from the smartass and team saboteur into a hardcore computer expert (simply because they needed someone else to fill the void since they irredeemably corrupted Rhinox, the previous moral heart of the team, into Tankor)
- Black Arachnia seemingly a loving and tender individual and not the dark, sinister temptress with a soft spot that you REALLY have to dig to find
- Silverbolt wrapped up in conflict and vengeance with all chivalry having dissolved into the ether
- Optimus an earth-first (arguably "biological-Cybertron-first") hippie, not the battlefield commander and peerless strategist and warrior
- Megatron completely averse to the biological? If anything he always found his continual beast transmutations to be raising him ever closer to godhood.

Cheetor was the only who was a logical evolution of character. Other than that it's a bastardization. Waspinator hurled from Earth by neanderthals and manages to reach Cybertron... contrived doesn't begin to say it. Taken separately it was alright, but looking at the way it changed everything I came to love I can't help but find the show loathsome.

 

[Ra88]

I see where you're coming from. If you take Beast Machines completely divorced from the rest of the Transformers mythos, then it's alright.
- Rattrap from the smartass and team saboteur into a hardcore computer expert (simply because they needed someone else to fill the void since they irredeemably corrupted Rhinox, the previous moral heart of the team, into Tankor)
- Black Arachnia seemingly a loving and tender individual and not the dark, sinister temptress with a soft spot that you REALLY have to dig to find
- Silverbolt wrapped up in conflict and vengeance with all chivalry having dissolved into the ether
- Optimus an earth-first (arguably "biological-Cybertron-first") hippie, not the battlefield commander and peerless strategist and warrior
- Megatron completely averse to the biological? If anything he always found his continual beast transmutations to be raising him ever closer to godhood.

Cheetor was the only who was a logical evolution of character. Other than that it's a bastardization. Waspinator hurled from Earth by neanderthals and manages to reach Cybertron... contrived doesn't begin to say it. Taken separately it was alright, but looking at the way it changed everything I came to love I can't help but find the show loathsome.

Yup, that's it. Real shame, imagine if it was about Megatron becoming the supreme ruler of all Predacons and that the Maximals were forced to go into hiding and employ guerilla tactics against the Preds...

 

[Scar]

Yup, that's it. Real shame, imagine if it was about Megatron becoming the supreme ruler of all Predacons and that the Maximals were forced to go into hiding and employ guerilla tactics against the Preds...

That was the dream, wasn't it? Too bad it not only died, but was made fun of, raped, and then set on fire.

 

[Ra88]

That was the dream, wasn't it? Too bad it not only died, but was made fun of, raped, and then set on fire.

And ironically the possible awesome sequel which combined the best of both BW and G1 was canned in favor of an import show BECAUSE BM was a flop... Rest in peace, Transtech...One day I'll make sure the official club will stop using your corpse for their multiverse BS stories.

 

[Scar]

Posted this already in the RotF video game section, but in the event that some people haven't seen it, here is the first glimpse of the Fallen (in toy form).

 

[Lord Vicious]

New shots of :

The Fallen

Devastator

 

[Scar]

:eek Wow. I like the menacing feel to the Fallen, but he's definitely more slender than I was expecting. For a figure who is supposed to be such a powerhouse of intimidation, he's much more slight than, say, Megatron or Devastator.

 

[uscmhicks]

I hate the look of the fallen !.

It looks like a robot grasshopper !.

 

[Scar]

I like him, but that's just me having only seen this pic. Then again, I'm a Decepticon man.

 

[MaulFan]

So there's a Decepticon named Fallen?

 

[Scar]

So there's a Decepticon named Fallen?

Yep, the lanky one with the molten red shining through from his insides.

 

[MaulFan]

That just seems so lame. Devistator, Megatron, Starscream, Fallen, kind of a wimpy name amongst the others.

 

[King Darkness]

Devastator

Though this will always be the one true Devastator:
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[CelticPredator]

I love that look of the Fallen. Very Alien.

 

[tomandshell]

Mr. Fallen looks more like a Bionicle.

 

[LOTRFan]

Mr. Fallen looks more like a Bionicle.

I am ok with changing the visual style - a LOT - but why the need to add the characters!?