Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

[Sachiel]

Most of the crap in this movie makes Jar Jar look like a masterpiece.

 

[Deeznutz6]

I only compare this movie to TF1, and to me it fails miserably as a sequel, all they had to do was follow the pattern of TF1 maybe throw in so more fighting robots, but I was fine with the amount in the first one.

This will no doubt make a bundle at the box office, but I know several people who are now skipping it because of the poor reviews they read and the opinion I gave them.

 

[King Darkness]

THIS is a Masterpiece!

Bay Transformers, not so much so.

 

[CelticPredator]

Movie Prime is the ^^^^.

 

[cedric72]

Well. This is the worst movie I've seen this year.And people have the nerve to criticize Salvation and Wolverine!
This movie had so many problems it's hard were to start,the two autobot twins 'dumb and dumber' that is meant for 5 year olds ,a hot chick that turns into a decepticon WTF!,an annoying Hispanic guy that crys throughout half the movie and the long running time which is absolute torture when you're watching a movie like this.The list goes on and on.
Seriously,you could take out an hour of this movie and it still wouldn't change anything.
The original Transformers was excellent,this is at the other end of the scale.It will also make a crap load of money,go figure!
What a disappointment.

 

[RICEaRONI]

I'm not defending this movie and I'm not bombarding it with a bad review. I went into the movie theater fully expecting what I was getting myself into. I went in wanting to have a good time on a Saturday afternoon. I wanted to see robots throw each other around, huge Micheal bay explosions, and horrible Meghan Fox acting.

I heard about the twins before I saw the film and they didn't piss me off as much as people are saying, and the people throwing the racist card need to get a clue. Were the robot balls, dog humping, robot humping the leg, and some of the language a little over the edge...yes. Did I get upset over it? no I laughed it off and waited to see another robot get its head ripped off.

Did Bay ruin some classic robot awesomeness? yes. The robot with "hot chick" active camo was a little bit much for me especially the tongue but again I just laughed it off with everyone else. Wasn't too fond of the sport bike autobots either. Optimal Optimus was pretty cool for the 10 seconds he was on film though.

Any who I'm done ranting. Did Bay ruin the childhood classic....no. Bay set out and made a Bay film, big ass explosions and horrible acting all over the place.

 

[Darklord Dave]

I recently rewatched TF1 on DVD and was a little disappointed that I'd spent money to buy it. I remember it not being great in the theater, but I liked it even less the 2nd time. I just saw TF2 and thought it was much, much better. Yes, the 8 year old humor was annoying, but I got into the characters more and enjoyed the action more. Sure there are lots of cringe-worthy moments, it wouldn't be Michael Bay without those - but I didn't think my time was wasted. But why is it that every female that appears in a Bay movie has to look like she's been left in the microwave too long?

 

[ironwez20]

i just found meagan fox annoying in this one im sorry she's hot but come on nobody cares about you and sam's problem i just wanna see ur a^^ and some transformers lol

 

[plasmid303]

i just found meagan fox annoying in this one im sorry she's hot but come on nobody cares about you and sam's problem i just wanna see ur a^^ and some transformers lol

I care about Sam and Mikayla's problem almost just as much as the robots. See, that's the problem with this film: it caters to those who would rather just see tits and ass with the occasional robotic fisticuffs than solid character development in both species. That's all Michael Bay does; he caters to the most basic primal banalities as possible -- it's his oeuvre, there's no subtlety.

No offense but your expectations for what this film should be is already exactly what's wrong with it.

But why is it that every female that appears in a Bay movie has to look like she's been left in the microwave too long?

Yeah they all look like supermodels that have been in the tanning bed a bit too long. Speaking of females in this film, none of them amount to more than pretty wallpaper. There's no strong female presence in the entire film. One can suggest that Mikayla is the most developed female character, but what is written for her is the bare minimum for what the movie would require: pining girlfriend. The exception would be Sam's mother, but she's...well...she's ditzy and that's all there is. The Arcee robots have less than 3 lines total in the film.

Way to go, Bay. You've got T & A covered, if nothing else.

 

[Fives]

i just wathced TF2 and i liked the movie, i still think 1 is a bit better but this one is not that far behind......but thats just me.

 

[LOTRFan]

As long as people agree that some "popcorn flicks" really are terrible movies then it's not a rationalization, it's just a label.

And Jesse brings up a good point. It shouldn't be a stigma, because some "popcorn flicks" are actually artistically competent, well-made movies. There is a large scale of quality within this own sub-genre.

I want to be entertained/have simple fun as well -- does anyone really need to state as much -- but when I think "popcorn movies" I think Raiders of the Lost Ark, or even recently Iron Man. Those are others are wildly entertaining without being base or insulting the viewers intelligence.

 

[winter]

Has anyone spoted R2D2 yet? He's supposed to be in the one of the desert scenes.

 

[Kratos]

I saw RotF today
And I thought it was fine it wasn't a bad movie
Sure the Hardcore TF Fans will have a B & M about it but I thought it was fine and doesn't need all the negativeness around it

 

[ironwez20]

I care about Sam and Mikayla's problem almost just as much as the robots. See, that's the problem with this film: it caters to those who would rather just see tits and ass with the occasional robotic fisticuffs than solid character development in both species. That's all Michael Bay does; he caters to the most basic primal banalities as possible -- it's his oeuvre, there's no subtlety.

No offense but your expectations for what this film should be is already exactly what's wrong with it.



Yeah they all look like supermodels that have been in the tanning bed a bit too long. Speaking of females in this film, none of them amount to more than pretty wallpaper. There's no strong female presence in the entire film. One can suggest that Mikayla is the most developed female character, but what is written for her is the bare minimum for what the movie would require: pining girlfriend. The exception would be Sam's mother, but she's...well...she's ditzy and that's all there is. The Arcee robots have less than 3 lines total in the film.

Way to go, Bay. You've got T & A covered, if nothing else.

so people wanna see robots fighting robots , isnt that what people where complaining about the lack of robot comunication so who cares about mikala crying. the whole movie felt like its centerd on meagan foxx. you know how many time's they showed her in the trailer like she was main character this is a movie about giant robots not some corney love movie. yea character development would have made this film better so instead of freaking seeing mikala complaing with her boobs half way out we shoulda saw some interaction between arcee,ironhide , jolt and the rest . I liked the movie but come on whats the point of the soldiers coming back from the first one imo they were usless and i hated the idea that they could kill the robots. Come on now yea its cool but its not good either. Throughout the whole movie we get this guy complaining and useless shots of meagan fox the only robots that had any development were skids ,mudflap and jetfire plus optimus before the forest battle and after.

 

[tylerdurden]

watched it fri nite.

have to say i enjoyed it more than tf1, which had too many annoying characters and really rotten scriptwriting for me that ruined the good stuff (eg: the arrival of the autobots, optimus in battle, sam and bumblebee's interaction).

on the whole, i did quite like tf2... almost everything until the last 30minutes or so. then it all fell apart. i absolutely HATED everything. where do i even begin? here goes:

- the utter stupidity of a plot for a movie that names itself "revenge of the fallen", but only has the fallen arriving in the last 15 minutes of the film, only to be killed off in a matter of seconds by f----king voltron, sorry "optimus prime". seriously, what the heck was that design on optimus? yeah, it was pieced together from parts of jetfire, but it looked bloody awful. so much for the big bad villain. he didn't do ANYTHING even remotely threatening, except levitate some tanks and soldiers. big deal. he got his ass kicked by a bunch of spare parts masquerading as an autobot leader.

- the desert "action" scenes. look, i don't care what anyone says abt how bay supposedly knows how to stage and shoot action stuff so well. the. man. does. not. know. how. to. shoot. action. for NUTS. c'mon, knowing how to convey what's happening on-screen so that your audience can comprehend who's doing what to whom, is the most basic thing. but michael bay has simply not learnt from his mistakes. in fact, he seems pathologically unwilling to. why on earth does he insist on framing everything in CLOSE-UP, so the already overly-busy robot designs can barely be seen? and to make things worse, he relies on fast cuts, so just as you're able to make out what's going on...CUT to another shot and your eyes are disoriented all over again. case in point: did any of you have a CLEAR look at the female RC autobots? just once? no, they were zipping all over the place, shooting/getting shot at/brawling... all in close-up and in fast cuts. sure, bay resorts to a lot of slow-mo shots too. but those are too little too late, cos the rest of the time, there is NO context for the actions, no sense of place within a scene.

- the utter uselessness of the autobots, due to the script, and bay's moronic preoccupation with glorifying the US army. look, i have nothing against the us army. but the way bay approached it, he makes it seem like without the army's help, the autobots are incapable of defending themselves. the transformers are supposed to be an extraterrestrial civilization light years more advanced than humans. but once the cavalry shows up----ooohh! look! battleships! fighter jets! infantry!---- only then does the tide of the battle turn in the autobots' favour. give me a break. so how the hell did the poor autobots ever cope, all those long years ago back on cyberton without the mighty humans at their side? wtf.

ok, rant over. if it sounds like i hated the movie in general, no i did not. just the last half-hour or so. it just got too much for me to overlook. but for the most part, i was happily along for the ride, and actually had fun. and while the twins and the hispanic sidekick were occasionally annoying, i found that the humour actually kinda WORKED most of the time. sure, it's pretty lowbrow humour, but it didn't fall flat, unlike most "jokes"/"funny scenes" in the first movie.

and what worked the most for me was when (SPOILER ALERT! SPOILER ALERT!) optimus died. i genuinely felt a tinge of sadness, one of the very few times in any michael bay movie when he's successfully pulled off an emotional moment. and there was a real sense of loss after that, mostly conveyed by shia, which i felt was a much-needed dose of HEART in a movie that is by and large an exercise in empty spectacle.

 

[JGouse0498]

Saw Revenge of the Fallen with my wife yesterday, and here's my take:

First up, the roommate...

Holy >>>>. that IS Pitu!!!!! And many thanks to Pitu because if it hadn't been for the roommate reminding me of him constantly, I would've seriously hated the character (yes, Pitu, it's a compliment).


Simmons: Why did we need him?!! Utter useless character--especially his Sector 7 tighty-whiteys and butt shot.

Devastator's "balls": If it hadn't been for the low-angle shot and Simmons' needless reference to them, they would've gone unnoticed. Again...why did we need Simmons??

Soundwave: By far, my absolute favorite Transformer in the movie!! Granted, he stayed above the fray, but he was the ultimate reconnaissance weapon. The satellite form was a logical choice given his function. And the Dr. Claw voice? Not irritating at all. In fact, it was probably better that they didn't use the old Soundwave synthesizer effect because it would've been harder to understand him.

Alice: OK, Isabel Lucas is smokin' hot!!! A bit too thin, but I still found myself asking "Where were these girls when I was a college freshman??" Also, she played the robotic nature of the Pretender well. Put a little more meat and muscle on her bones, and she'd be a perfect TX Terminator. One thing that confused me...was she there specifically for Sam or just overall infiltration of human society? It seemed like she wasn't sure what to make of Sam until she saw the symbols on the walls. Also, didn't Leo seem to know her already even though Sam had just arrived??

Shanghai: I was very curious to see this since I live only an hour north of Bethlehem, PA where they filmed it. A fantastic start to the movie, and I was floored by Optimus skydiving from the NEST airplane

Sam's Parents: Much less annoying than in the first film. Yeah, the brownies were a bit much, but I really liked how the mom was flipping out. It was over the top, but it felt appropriate considering parents do act weird when their kids leave home for college.

The Twins: Mildly irritating at first and then flat out obnoxious by the end. And you could clearly tell that the green one's voice was the guy who voices Spongebob Squarepants. Even the face looked like Spongebob

Megatron and Starscream: Now those are the Megatron and Starscream characters I remember from the cartoon!!! Great interactions between them.

The Fallen: Perfect voice casting with Tony Todd. Absolutely wasted character though, which leads me to my biggest gripe of the movie...


The "ending"

I know movies are not shot in linear form, but it really felt like Bay and Co. got to the last ten minutes and said "Oh ^^^^, we're running long, and we're short on time and money. Let's just wrap this up quick!" I mean...

Spoiler

The Fallen suddenly pops back on the scene, grabs the Matrix (which is barely seen), and heads off toward a Harvester that never really does anything. Optimus slaps on Jetfire's parts, takes out the Harvester with one shot, and takes out the supposedly "all-powerful" Fallen in a 30 second fistfight???!!! And to add insult to injury, he gives almost the same freakin' monologue to close the movie??!!!!

I can't remember the last time a movie's final ten minutes managed to ruin my entire opinion of the movie. Despite some pitiful humor (Simmons, the roomie, crude humping jokes, etc.), I was really liking the movie because it really felt like it was building up to something big and special at the climax.

But then it's like Bay took all that slow-building tension and momentum, got ADHD, and dropped it to go look at something shiny!!


My overall score without the last 10 minutes: 8/10

Score with the last 10 minutes: 4/10

 

[Darklord Dave]

I actually liked the ending. I have no Transformer baggage, know nothing about the characters and have never seen the cartoon, but I loved Jetfire.

Spoiler

And his sacrifice at the end and Optimus' power up was an effective way of making it seem that they needed a little more oomph to defeat the Fallen.

 

[The Mike]

Alice: OK, Isabel Lucas is smokin' hot!!! A bit too thin, but I still found myself asking "Where were these girls when I was a college freshman??" Also, she played the robotic nature of the Pretender well. Put a little more meat and muscle on her bones, and she'd be a perfect TX Terminator. One thing that confused me...was she there specifically for Sam or just overall infiltration of human society? It seemed like she wasn't sure what to make of Sam until she saw the symbols on the walls. Also, didn't Leo seem to know her already even though Sam had just arrived??

I don't think she was too thin at all, perfect Aussie hottie. She was there for Sam specifically, they (Decepticons, specifically Soundwave) were monitoring via their Satellites it wouldn't have been that difficult to find out when Sam would arrive and where. She spotted Sam specifically as soon as she was on screen and begun the flirty nature, I thought Lucas did a good Faux Megan Fox impression and I got that vibe the whole time through. Leo knew who she was because he mentioned the hot Freshman 20 (I believe the number was) anyway when he goes into his "command center" and shows Sam around you see on one of the computers the pictures of the hot Freshman girls flipping through and her picture in that run a couple of times in cycles. Also Leo mentions when he first meets Sam that the hot girls had just arrived and they were matching them up already. It looks like Alice just arrived and Leo knew via his systems.

 

[JGouse0498]

I don't think she was too thin at all, perfect Aussie hottie. She was there for Sam specifically, they (Decepticons, specifically Soundwave) were monitoring via their Satellites it wouldn't have been that difficult to find out when Sam would arrive and where. She spotted Sam specifically as soon as she was on screen and begun the flirty nature, I thought Lucas did a good Faux Megan Fox impression and I got that vibe the whole time through. Leo knew who she was because he mentioned the hot Freshman 20 (I believe the number was) anyway when he goes into his "command center" and shows Sam around you see on one of the computers the pictures of the hot Freshman girls flipping through and her picture in that run a couple of times in cycles. Also Leo mentions when he first meets Sam that the hot girls had just arrived and they were matching them up already. It looks like Alice just arrived and Leo knew via his systems.

Thanks for that clarification. And does this mean we can expect to see some Isabel signatures in the near future???

 

[The Mike]

Shes already on the short list yeah.