True Detective

[batfan08]

That's a fair assessment. Dammit, Rust, now you've got me wanting to talk religion, and that's a slippery slope.

 

[batfan08]

I'll just say this: I see nothing wrong with religion, in and of itself. I think all religions and spirituality, at their core, are about being a better person and enlightening one's self, so to speak, but, I think that, in the constant shuffle, humanity contorts and twists that into something else entirely. When you fight wars in the name of a god and use the Bible as a sort of "Reasons to be a bigot 101" manual, I think that's a classic case of being so close to the forest that you can't see the trees.

With that in mind, I think Rust's analysis is spot on. Too many people are less concerned about being good for the sake of being good than they are with being good because they're scared something bad will happen if they aren't.

 

[Rdeezy]

I'll just say this: I see nothing wrong with religion, in and of itself. I think all religions and spirituality, at their core, are about being a better person and enlightening one's self, so to speak, but, I think that, in the constant shuffle, humanity contorts and twists that into something else entirely. When you fight wars in the name of a god and use the Bible as a sort of "Reasons to be a bigot 101" manual, I think that's a classic case of being so close to the forest that you can't see the trees.

With that in mind, I think Rust's analysis is spot on. To many people are less concerned about being good for the sake of being good than they are with being good because they're scared something bad will happen if they aren't.

That last paragraph is dead on Batfan

 

[batfan08]

Damn, though, there's so much insight in everything he says that you can't help but want to dwell on it and analyze it. Two episodes in and I'm already thinking McConaughey deserved an Emmy.

 

[Rdeezy]

Damn, though, there's so much insight in everything he says that you can't help but want to dwell on it and analyze it. Two episodes in and I'm already thinking McConaughey deserved an Emmy.

He'll definitely win the Emmy for Rust

 

[batfan08]

I absolutely loved Cranston as Walter White, but he already has like what? Three? Rust was one of the best performances of the last year. When I'm two and a half episodes in and I can say that with certainty, I think that's testament to that fact. I'll say this, though, and it's kind of straying off topic, but, as far as the Emmy's go, I think Jon Hamm deserves to win once, before Mad Men ends. Don Draper's been a great character, and, in a lot of ways, I think Mad Men's the show that started this boom in quality television. There've always been great shows; The Sopranos, The Wire, The Shield, etc., but it seems like this period has been something of a renaissance for Cable TV. The shows get bigger, the stakes get higher, and the stories get better, year after year.

 

[Rdeezy]

I absolutely loved Cranston as Walter White, but he already has like what? Three? Rust was one of the best performances of the last year. When I'm two and a half episodes in and I can say that with certainty, I think that's testament to that fact. I'll say this, though, and it's kind of straying off topic, but, as far as the Emmy's go, I think Jon Hamm deserves to win once, before Mad Men ends. Don Draper's been a great character, and, in a lot of ways, I think Mad Men's the show that started this boom in quality television. There've always been great shows; The Sopranos, The Wire, The Shield, etc., but it seems like this period has been something of a renaissance for Cable TV. The shows get bigger, the stakes get higher, and the stories get better, year after year.

Exactly my views I dont think Hamm will win this year, but definitely should next year for the last season of MM.

 

[batfan08]

I just finished Episode 3. Whoa. I love that counterbalance between Russ and Marty. The one seems like a total crazy person because of the way he presents himself, yet, internally, he seems a lot more stable, while the calm and collected member of the team is the more volatile and explosive of the two. It's going to be very interesting to see how this plays out.

 

[batfan08]

Halfway through and I don't know if I want to continue, knowing that there are only four episodes left. Biker Cohle's one badass mother, and the entire episode was just fantastic. It wasn't as contemplative as some of the others, in terms of content, but it was most definitely exhilarating. That whole sequence in the projects was absolutely fantastic.

 

[batfan08]

"I'm not talk in' about sittin' in a treehouse, wait in' to ambush some buck comin' up to sniff what you got in your gash bait, I'm talkin' about tracking."

"Jesus, you're a prick."

I love this show so much.

 

[Rdeezy]

Loving the ongoing commentary Batfan

 

[batfan08]

I just finished "The Secret Fate of All Life." My god, what an episode. As far as your custom project with Rahmier, Trevor, etc. goes, Rdeezy, did you guys ever consider tackling Rust's "Iron Crusaders" getup? That'd make for one hell of a figure. Seriously, though, what an episode; the tension's mounting, and I'm both excited and frightened by the prospect of what, exactly, it's building towards. It's 2:30 AM on the East Coast, and I'm tempted to say "to hell with it" and watch Episode 3.

Yet again, with Rust's existential monologue, the insight of the writers impressed the hell out of me. I've had that same thought before; I wasn't aware of what you were referencing, when you said "time is a flat circle," but I honestly have wondered, if that's all life is. We live, we forget, and we restart; over and over again. No being reincarnated as a goat or a millionaire; just the same life playing out the same way, and you and I being none the wiser.

Actually makes me feel a little more comfortable with myself, knowing that, at the very least, Nick Pizzolatto's had some similar thoughts.

 

[Rdeezy]

Yes man we have a "Crash" version of Rust in the works. Rahmier84 is actually my brother as well, and a huge fan of the show too obviously.
After we do the 1995 versions of Rust and Marty, Trevor will be doing the 2012 versions as well!

 

[batfan08]

Oh, wow. That's awesome! I knew Rahmier had a brother, but I never knew that was you, man! It's awesome that you guys have a common interest! That's great to hear that you're working on "Crash." Will that just be the outfit, then? 2012 Rust will be something, as well. I can't wait to see what Trevor does with the "Regular Type Dude" (most likely without the bigass **** in this case). So far, Rust is a home run, in both Trevor's sculpt and your brother's paintwork. He's one of those characters that, eventually, I'm just going to have to track down, but, until that day comes, I'll absolutely be happy to live vicariously through the figures everyone in those threads is putting together.

I doubt it'd ever come close to what you guys are putting together, but I actually kind of wonder if, providing it's a success, the Game of Thrones license opens the door for more licensed HBO properties in 1/6th. This show, though, is absolutely brilliant. I've never seen anything quite like it. Even the title sequences are gorgeous (not to mention the fantastic opening theme).

 

[batfan08]

Also, I'm a big fan of the comic book artist Francesco Francavilla. He does a ton of artwork, and he did those minimalist posters for Breaking Bad, but, you and your brother being such big fans of the show, I was wondering if you'd ever seen these prints he did:

https://francavilla.bigcartel.com/product/dim-carcosa

https://francavilla.bigcartel.com/product/the-abyss

 

[batfan08]

I've got a wedding to go to tomorrow. I'll have to be up bright and early to get prepared, anyway, which means I probably wouldn't get much sleep, so, having just finished Episode 6, I intend to have found the answers by dawn.

 

[batfan08]

As far as Episode 6 goes, yet another fantastic episode. I love that the focus is diverted so much. It fully realizes these characters when you see not only their jobs and their personalities, but their lives, as well. I knew it was coming, though (no pun intended). There was too much tension between Maggie and Rust, and, going back through Marty's interview, it was clear that his indiscretion wasn't exactly a one-time only sort of thing.

 

[batfan08]

FINALE TIME! Thoughts on "After You've gone." Though I doubt it'll come to fruition, there's a part of me that would love a payoff for the psuedo-supernatural elements. Though I'm by no means a real fan of it, as I've never read any of it (though I really want to), I'm familiar enough with Lovecraftian Horror such as "The Call of Cthulhu" to appreciate the stuff like the "green eared Spaghetti monster," and with all of the stuff about "fourth realities" and "time space," and the references to "The Yellow King" (which is in my iBooks library; I actually intended to read it prior to the show, but when I saw that it was 300+ pages, I thought "nah, I can't wait that long." ), it seems like there's the distinct possibility of a supernatural angle.

Then, with the ending of that last episode with "My family's been here for a long, long time (I believe Cthulhu and his ilk were deemed "The Old Ones" in Lovecraft's material)," it seems like it could go either way. Bottom line: I'm in love with this show, and I can't wait to see its conclusion. Though, it will be bitter sweet, as it will also mean the end of the journey for Detectives Cohle and Hart.

 

[batfan08]

What a phenomenal ending. I know that some people thought it too tidy, but the beauty of it lies in the simplicity. There are so many different nuances and layers to the show, and it takes your mind in a million different directions. Surreal aspects like the Lovecraftian references and Rust's hallucinations let your imagination run wild with possibilities that all of this might not be as "grounded" as we think, visual cues and red herrings like Marty and the Pasta are used to empower our cynical side; what if it is all darkness? What if this force has corrupted the guys we're supposed to be rooting for, but, what I love about the finale is that it cements our role as Rust.

He's our perspective character. I've made no secret of how relatable I found him, but, when we look at our lives, we all have the same feelings that Rust has, at some point or another. We're infected by rationalization, doubt, and cynicism, and uncertainty; we're uncertain of our importance, out existence, our role in the universe, and it will always be ambiguous, but, and maybe I'm wrong here, as I said, the beauty lies in the simplicity of it; light versus dark. We can choose to let those feelings consume us, or we can choose a different path. That warmth that Rust felt; his daughter's love, again. You could choose to look at it as "Rustin Cohle" finally seeing the light and knowing that there's more than this life, or you could see it as a reignited faith in life. After everything he's been through, after all of the cynicism; you see that Rust has hope in his existence, for the first time since the show's started; he chooses to embrace the light, and cast out the darkness.

I've talked non-stop about this, but I can't help it. True Detective is unlike anything I've ever seen before, and I question whether I'll see anything like it ever again. Not to mention, it features what I feel are two of the best performances of the respective leads' careers; film or otherwise.

 

[The Chev]

I watched this show over the span of a few days and I absolutely loved it. It's the best show I've seen in a long time.

Surprised there seems to be somewhat of a backlash against this series online on certain places.

Spoiler

I'm very excited to see the new cast when it's revealed. Will it be more A-list actors? Where will it take place? The Rumor is L.A and it won't revolve around a murder.