UFC, etc.

[ENDO-HUNTER]

FEDOR is a freaking TERMINATOR and really has nothing to prove. Sure I would like to see him in the UFC and it would be a shame he never strikes that deal with Dana because the fans deserve it and I believe he would clean house like he does in whatever organization he fights in. Regardless he will go down in MMA history as being one of the most memorable ass kicking machines ever.

 

[nash]

Such a sick sick video I love that shot on sokudjou at the 1:43 mark

Shogun's standup aint got nothin on Machida.

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[Devil_666]

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by ZUFFA, LLC."

 

[kobayashi93]

Dana says EVERYTHING is a huge announcement and will be a shocker. I wouldn't hold your breath.. it'll most likely be something lame. I remember dude said that before and it turned out to be a deal for UFC action figures.

I've been disappointed so many times by his huge announcements.

I still like to speculate though. I'm going to guess TV deal.

 

[Devil_666]

I've been disappointed so many times by his huge announcements.

I still like to speculate though. I'm going to guess TV deal.

With who, you think? HBO maybe? The CBS/Showtime deal was snatched up by Strikeforce so I doubt it's that. Maybe Fox!? iunno.

 

[kobayashi93]

HBO specifically. Hopefully the UFC brass knows Fox kills everything.

 

[nash]

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by ZUFFA, LLC."

oh damn you missed out. was a pretty awesome fan made video. THE DANA-Nator strikes again!

 

[Devil_666]

oh damn you missed out. was a pretty awesome fan made video. THE DANA-Nator strikes again!

They'll just copy it and use it for Machida's next pre-fight promo.

 

[NASEDO]

Such a sick sick video I love that shot on sokudjou at the 1:43 mark

Shogun's standup aint got nothin on Machida.

Machida after 1 fight is the greatest fighter ever, jump on the bad wagon. Shogun will win, then you guys will love him.

 

[kobayashi93]

Machida is the flavor of the month. He really is the best in the division though. I don't see him losing for a long time.

 

[nash]

Such a sick sick video I love that shot on sokudjou at the 1:43 mark

Shogun's standup aint got nothin on Machida.

Machida after 1 fight is the greatest fighter ever, jump on the bad wagon. Shogun will win, then you guys will love him.

lol bandwagon? just because YOU noticed him after one fight, don't peg me the same. Ive been a fan for a long time idiot.

 

[Devil_666]

Machida after 1 fight is the greatest fighter ever, jump on the bad wagon. Shogun will win, then you guys will love him.

Who said that!? I must've missed it. I don't think Machida is the greatest fighter ever, imo the only credible LHW he's fought so far has been Rashad. At least the only top 5 LHW he's fought. He has a long way to go. Lately NO ONE has been able to keep the LHW title.. because the division is so stacked. So we'll see.. if Machida beats Shogun and then Rampage/Evans again then maybe people can start saying he's something special. But it's way too early to tell at this point imo. He needs more wins.

 

[nash]

Who said that!? I must've missed it. I don't think Machida is the greatest fighter ever, imo the only credible LHW he's fought so far has been Rashad. At least the only top 5 LHW he's fought. He has a long way to go. Lately NO ONE has been able to keep the LHW title.. because the division is so stacked. So we'll see.. if Machida beats Shogun and then Rampage/Evans again then maybe people can start saying he's something special. But it's way too early to tell at this point imo. He needs more wins.

The same could be said about anderson silva then. Who in the middleweight class has he beaten that makes him the best ever? or Fedor?

Imo the LHWs Machida has beaten, he put them to shame pretty badly. Sure they were not current champion material, but majority of his opponents have been top tier guys. I dont think he is the best ever, there is no such thing as the best ever. the sport is constantly evolving as well as the fighters. just when you think youve seen it all, someone will come along and show you more.

 

[occulum]

. the sport is constantly evolving as well as the fighters. just when you think youve seen it all, someone will come along and show you more.

that, right there, is why I'll watch MMA no matter who the hell is fighting ...

 

[kobayashi93]

:chew It's going to be a good weekend.

STRIKEFORCE: JUNE 6, 2009 ON SHOWTIME
venue: Scottrade Center in St. Louis, Missouri

Main Card (Showtime):
-Robbie Lawler (16-4) vs. Jake Shields (22-4-1) in a 182-pound bout
-Nick Diaz (19-7) vs. Scott Smith (15-5)
-Andrei Arlovski (15-6) vs. Brett Rogers (9-0)
-Joe Riggs (29-10) vs. Phil Baroni (13-10)
-Kevin Randleman (17-12) vs. Mike Whitehead (23-6)

Preliminary Card:
-Rafael "Feijao" Cavalcante (7-1) vs. Mike Kyle (11-6-1)
-Jesse Finney (3-0) vs. Josh Bumgarner (5-0)
-Tyron Woodley (2-0) vs. Sal Woods (2-4)
-Scott Ventimiglia (12-5-1) vs. Lucas Lopes (8-8)
-Pat Benson (3-5-1) vs. Dave Cochran (16-19)
-Booker DeRousse (1-1) vs. James Wade (0-0)

WEC 41: JUNE 7, 2009
venue: ARCO Arena in Sacramento, California

Main Card Bouts:
-Mike Brown (21-4) vs. Urijah Faber (22-2)
-Jose Aldo (14-1) vs. Cub Swanson (13-2)
-James Krause (10-0) vs. Donald Cerrone (9-1)
-Josh Grispi (12-1) vs. Jens Pulver (22-11-1)

Undercard Bouts:
-Manny Gamburyan (8-4) vs. John Franchi (5-0)
-Rafael Rebello (5-3) Vs. Kyle Dietz (5-0)
-Mike Campbell (4-1) vs. Anthony Pettis (6-0)
-Scott Jorgensen (6-2) vs. Antonio Banuelos (15-5)
-Noah Thomas (13-4) vs. Frank Gomez (6-1)
-Rolando Perez (4-2-1) vs. Seth Dikun (6-3)

I'll be cheering for Lawler, Diaz, Rogers, Riggs, Randleman, Brown, Aldo, and Cerrone.

 

[Devil_666]

The same could be said about anderson silva then.

Strictly comparing competition in the UFC:

Anderson Silva

Chris Leben - Unranked - KO
Rich Franklin - UFC MW Champion (Top 5 MW Then) - KO
Travis Lutter - Unranked - Submission (Elbows)
Nate Marquardt - 1st Title Defense (Top 5 MW Then and Now) - TKO
Rich Franklin II - 2nd Title Defense (Top 5 MW Then) - TKO
Dan Henderson - PRIDE MW Champion (Top 5 MW then and Now) 3rd Title Defense + Unified the UFC and PRIDE MW Titles - Submission (Rear Naked Choke)
James Irvin - LHW - KO
Patrick Cote - Unranked I believe - TKO (Injury)
Thales Leites - Top 10 MW (Then and Now) - Decision (Unanimous)


Lyoto Machida

Sam Hoger - Unranked - Decision (Unanimous)
David Heath - Unranked - Decision (Unanimous)
Kazuhiro Nakamura - Unranked - Decision (Unanimous)
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou - Top 10 LHW (Then) - Submission (Arm Triangle)
Tito Ortiz - Unranked - Decision (Unanimous)
Thiago Silva - Top 10 LHW (Then and Now) - KO
Rashad Evans - UFC LHW Champion (#1 Ranked LHW) - KO


Anderson gets so much praise because he cleared out the UFC MW division and in the process, finished 4 Top 5 MWs (Franklin Twice, Marquardt and Henderson) Unified the PRIDE and UFC MW Titles, Has the most consecutive wins in the UFC (9) and holds the record for most consecutive Title Defenses in the UFC (6).

Machida hasn't come close to doing any of that.. YET. Like I said.. he has a wide open road ahead. Unlike Fedor, A.Silva and B.J. Penn, Machida and GSP are in divisions that have almost ALL the Top 10 fighters IN the UFC. So it's possible for a UFC WW/LHW to clear out 99% of the Top 10 (general consensus).

If Machida managed to do that, or even GSP.. there would be no question they were (at that time) the best because that's never been done before. No fighter (Yeah NASEDO not even Fedor) has ever beaten that many current Top 10 fighters in their division.

 

[azurepred]

Strictly comparing competition in the UFC:

Anderson Silva

Chris Leben - Unranked - KO
Rich Franklin - UFC MW Champion (Top 5 MW Then) - KO
Travis Lutter - Unranked - Submission (Elbows)
Nate Marquardt - 1st Title Defense (Top 5 MW Then and Now) - TKO
Rich Franklin II - 2nd Title Defense (Top 5 MW Then) - TKO
Dan Henderson - PRIDE MW Champion (Top 5 MW then and Now) 3rd Title Defense + Unified the UFC and PRIDE MW Titles - Submission (Rear Naked Choke)
James Irvin - LHW - KO
Patrick Cote - Unranked I believe - TKO (Injury)
Thales Leites - Top 10 MW (Then and Now) - Decision (Unanimous)

thats an extrmemely great list of fighters to have beaten........GSP is gettin there though, im not a hardcore mma fan like a lot of you guys, dont get me wrong, i love practicing mma and jiu jitsu and shiz like that, as far as fedor goes, i have never seen one of his fights, and i havent really heard of a lot of his oppenents, and from what i hear, he pretty much gets to pick them, which is gay, but i think he hasnt beaten some of the guys i think he should for me to declare him the best in the world; at this point, i think silva has more impressive wins then fedor, and i think couture is the best fighter ever, at this point in time though

BTW-i do hope dana announces an HBO deal, we dont get to see enough UFC imo, and im not the type to pay $50 on a ppv event that faber fight should be intersting this weekend though, is it me, or does it seem like he always gets to fight in his hometown

 

[kobayashi93]

Fedor talk is like watching an atheist argue with a religious fanatic.

 

[sscalltheway]

Strictly comparing competition in the UFC:

Anderson Silva

Chris Leben - Unranked - KO
Rich Franklin - UFC MW Champion (Top 5 MW Then) - KO
Travis Lutter - Unranked - Submission (Elbows)
Nate Marquardt - 1st Title Defense (Top 5 MW Then and Now) - TKO
Rich Franklin II - 2nd Title Defense (Top 5 MW Then) - TKO
Dan Henderson - PRIDE MW Champion (Top 5 MW then and Now) 3rd Title Defense + Unified the UFC and PRIDE MW Titles - Submission (Rear Naked Choke)
James Irvin - LHW - KO
Patrick Cote - Unranked I believe - TKO (Injury)
Thales Leites - Top 10 MW (Then and Now) - Decision (Unanimous)


Lyoto Machida

Sam Hoger - Unranked - Decision (Unanimous)
David Heath - Unranked - Decision (Unanimous)
Kazuhiro Nakamura - Unranked - Decision (Unanimous)
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou - Top 10 LHW (Then) - Submission (Arm Triangle)
Tito Ortiz - Unranked - Decision (Unanimous)
Thiago Silva - Top 10 LHW (Then and Now) - KO
Rashad Evans - UFC LHW Champion (#1 Ranked LHW) - KO


Anderson gets so much praise because he cleared out the UFC MW division and in the process, finished 4 Top 5 MWs (Franklin Twice, Marquardt and Henderson) Unified the PRIDE and UFC MW Titles, Tied the most wins in the UFC (9) and is now tied for most Title Defenses in a row in the UFC (With Hughes and Ortiz I believe).

Machida hasn't come close to doing any of that.. YET. Like I said.. he has a wide open road ahead. Unlike Fedor, A.Silva and B.J. Penn, Machida and GSP are in divisions that have almost ALL the Top 10 fighters IN the UFC. So it's possible for a UFC WW/MW to clear out 99% of the Top 10 (general consensus).

If Machida managed to do that, or even GSP.. there would be no question they were (at that time) the best because that's never been done before. No fighter (Yeah NASEDO not even Fedor) has ever beaten that many current Top 10 fighters in their division.

Devil to add to your point Anderson actually set a new record for wins in the UFC at 9. The longest was 8.

 

[Devil_666]

Devil to add to your point Anderson actually set a new record for wins in the UFC at 9. The longest was 8.

Oh ok. I thought the streak was 9. Thanks for the correction!!!

The record before was held by Royce Gracie then a tie with Jon Fitch then a 3 way tie with A.Silva. You're right.

EDIT: Anderson Silva actually DOES hold the record for most consecutive UFC title Defenses (6).

I done messed up.