UFC, etc.

[NASEDO]

I disagree, strikeforce's numbers are terrible for a pay channel. considering that buying showtime for a month is about 4 times cheaper than buying ONE Ufc pay-per view event.

Well your wrong, Showtime had a higher rating. Showtime did good.

https://www.fightline.com/news/mma/2009/0818/437502/ufc_100/index.shtml
Spike TV’s replay of UFC 100 this past Saturday captured a larger audience than Strikeforce’s live show. In fact, they nearly quadrupled their MMA counterparts as Strikeforce: Carano vs. Cyborg drew a 2.19 rating and an average audience of 576,000 viewers, while UFC 100 garnered a 1.5 rating and 2 million viewers.
However, Strikeforce’s event set the viewership record for an MMA event on Showtime set by EliteXC: Street Certified, which drew a 1.9 rating and 522,000 viewers. The Strikeforce event peaked at a record-setting 2.91 rating and 856,000 viewers for the night’s highly anticipated main event.

UFC 100 garnered a 1.8 rating (513,000 viewers), which was the highest-rated program in the male 18-34 demographic in it's timeslot.

Additionally, Spike TV edged Showtime in the key demographic with 513,000 viewers, compared to the premium channel’s 181,000.

Keep in mind that Spike TV is a basic cable station, so it is available in many more homes, roughly 98 million. Showtime, on the other hand, is a premium cable network that only has roughly 15 million paying subscribers.

 

[nash]

I dont know how the rating scale works all i know is the number of viewers. and you completely avoided what I was saying.

I said that Strikeforce's 576,000 viewers for a pay channel is terrible considering that you pay maybe $15 a month for showtime service, and any UFC ppv event has killed this even if you have to pay $60 for a one day showing.

 

[NASEDO]

I dont know how the rating scale works all i know is the number of viewers. and you completely avoided what I was saying.

I said that Strikeforce's 576,000 viewers for a pay channel is terrible considering that you pay maybe $15 a month for showtime service, and any UFC ppv event has killed this even if you have to pay $60 for a one day showing.

Showtimes only service is not just Strikeforce you actually get more for your money, at $15 month 4 months = 1 UFC. But I hate the fact that the UFC charges an extra $10 for HD. And if you look at the #'s the 576,000 is not terrible, compared to the ratings percentage.

 

[Devil_666]

The fact that Strikeforce was new and live, and UFC 100 was a replay but got more viewers says it all. You think if Strikeforce replayed the Carano vs. Santos card or hell ANY card they've ever done vs. a brand new UFC event that Strikeforce would outdraw them? Hell no. Not to mention Gina Carano is their biggest draw.

 

[NASEDO]

No one could read the facts, or atleast do some research. StrikeForce had a higher rating then the UFC, it did really good. And Strikeforce is not new. Its always bash everything not UFC, even if the facts tell otherwise. So great.

 

[316what]

I dont know how the rating scale works all i know is the number of viewers. and you completely avoided what I was saying.

I said that Strikeforce's 576,000 viewers for a pay channel is terrible considering that you pay maybe $15 a month for showtime service, and any UFC ppv event has killed this even if you have to pay $60 for a one day showing.

But you have to keep in mind that Showtime is in about 1/5 of the number of households as Spike TV. I would say that the Strikeforce number of viewers is one of the highest for any Showtime programming with the exception of a couple of boxing cards.

 

[nash]

But you have to keep in mind that Showtime is in about 1/5 of the number of households as Spike TV. I would say that the Strikeforce number of viewers is one of the highest for any Showtime programming with the exception of a couple of boxing cards.

again, youre not reading what im typing. I wasnt comparing it to Spike TV, i was comparing it to UFC Pay Per View events!

Showtime is a steal compared to having to shell out $60 for a 2 hour payperview. At least with showtime you get a whole month of non stop movies for $15, and yet the numbers compared to the Ufc PPVs are weak.

And so what if it's the highest for any showtime programming? That isn't saying much.

Showtimes only service is not just Strikeforce you actually get more for your money, at $15 month 4 months = 1 UFC. But I hate the fact that the UFC charges an extra $10 for HD. And if you look at the #'s the 576,000 is not terrible, compared to the ratings percentage.

This is EXACTLY my point. When you only have to pay $15 for ONE WHOLE MONTH of showtime as opposed to $60 for 2 hours of UFC, you would think that Strikeforce would have way more than just 576,000. Imo it IS terrible.

 

[Devil_666]

And so what if it's the highest for any showtime programming? That isn't saying much.

Just to clarify: Carano vs. Santos was NOT the highest rated program ever on Showtime. Not even close. It was simply the highest rated MMA event ever on Showtime (and that includes shows from EliteXC).

For example: The third season premiere of Dexter got 3 Million plus viewers. And back in 1998 when Showtime had even less customers, Evander Holyfield vs. Vaughn Bean got a 10.8 rating. And I'm sure recent boxing cards have done amazing numbers as well.

 

[NASEDO]

I think I'm going to print out all the pages in this thread and use them for a script for a new Dumb & Dumber movie.

 

[Devil_666]

Just use your posts. More than enough material. NASEDOUCHE.

 

[kobayashi93]

They really aren't protecting TUF guys like they use to. Wilks has to take on Matt Brown in his second UFC fight, and Efrain is fighting Cole Miller. Both are pretty tough tests imo.

 

[nash]

I F'n lol'd

 

[Devil_666]

hahahaha..

Some news: The NSAC approved instant reply, so if a fight is stopped due to injury, the ref can check if it was due to a legal or illegal blow. So no more BS like the Anthony Johnson stoppage.

Also the NSAC approved 5 round non-title fights for "championship level competitors". So maybe the Big Nog vs. Couture fight might change from 3 rounds to 5.

The NSAC also added the "BJ Penn Rule".

In a meeting held Wednesday in Las Vegas, the NSAC approved language prohibiting the use of foreign substances on a fighter’s body prior to or during a fight that “could result in an unfair advantage.”

Dubbed by a commission official as the “B.J. Penn Rule,” the use of foreign substances will now be added to a list of “fouls” in the Nevada Administrative Code that address tactics illegal to fighters, such as eye gouging, small joint manipulation, or biting.

Now they need to add F'n knees to the head on the ground!

 

[kobayashi93]

Also the NSAC approved 5 round non-title fights for "championship level competitors". So maybe the Big Nog vs. Couture fight might change from 3 rounds to 5.

Very interesting.

 

[kobayashi93]

There's a rumor going around that it's Brock Lesnar vs Shane Carwin at UFC 106. We'll have to wait and see.

I think it would be a smart move. Why waste Carwin or Cain by putting them against each other?

 

[NASEDO]

Very interesting.

I would love to see non title main event go to 5 rounds. The Chuck - Wand fight left me feeling there was no winner after 3 rounds. Even the Wand - Franklin fight needed 2 more rounds, that would be a nice rule.

 

[kobayashi93]

There's a few that I wish could have gone two more rounds. Rampage vs Jardine, Hughes vs Serra, Sanchez vs Guida, would have been awesome five round fights imo.

 

[Devil_666]

The only little nagging point is how it's worded: "championship level competitors". There's already talk about, WHO determines if fighters are "championship level competitors". Or, does that terminology mean only former champions can fight 5 rounds, etc. I'm hoping the commission just leaves it to the match maker's discretion. That way co-main event fights and non-title main event fights could all be 5 rounds.

 

[kobayashi93]

Me too. That would make fights like Swick vs Kampmann, for example, much more exciting. I wonder if the UFC be willing to do this now though? Or will they wait for all the states to adopt the 5 round rule? Or can the other state commisions adopt the rule now? Swick vs Kampmann couldn't be for 5 rounds since it's not up to NSAC.

Lesnar vs Carwin at 106 seems to be confirmed by a few reliable sources.
Velasquez vs Rothwell at 104.

 

[sscalltheway]

I think Lesnar vs Carwin is a better route anyway. Velasquez is just too small.