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Bezzerkerr
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Thanks for your reply.
The fighters you mentioned are the Top-Tier of the Heavy Division, great picks...still they would ALL lose.
First things first, THE CAGE means NOTHING ... please tell me what the cage brings that the ring doesn't? ! ? ! IT MEANS NOTHING, cage, street, alley, ring, beach it MEANS NOTHING. a cliff maybe, cage NOTHING.
Lesnar and Velaz are extremely one dimensional. I will add their ONE DIMENSION (wrestling) is the most dominating tool in all of MMA. This one sided approach will not work against Fedor. CAin & brock egde Fedor in wrestling but Fedor's Striking and Submissions are LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF THESE TWO. He would KO these two wreslters in 2 rounds. If you think Brock is going to HEATH HERRING his way to victory you are sadly mistaken. If you think CAin will BEN ROTHWELL his way to victory over Fedor, i feel bad for you. These are 2 guys that have no grappling base ... Fedor is a grappling master.
Carwin & Dos Santos, are two well versed hybrid heavyweights. Both posses strong striking and a serious grappling base. I'm affraid Fedor's Striking & Grappling are Superior to both fighters. However, i do see these two fights as wars. Fedor via TKO.
Big Nog & Couture are two grandfathers of the fight game. Big Nog fought Fedor 2X in two hard fought matches. He shined in his last performance, but I really see no way he can defeat Fedor. I don't see a KO and I don't see a sub, his only chance is a Decision, and i would bet the farm the decision would go to Fedor, yet again. One part of me would love to see Randy fight Fedor, another part wants nothing to do with it. After seeing him get knocked out by Brock Lesnar (who has AVERAGE stand-up skills) I wouldn't want to see what Fedor does to him. If Randy got caught with the punch that hit Rogers, he may never fight again.
What all MMA fights come down to is control & seizing the opportunuity. Dictating the pace, control on the feet, control on the mat. The UFC Heavyweights are beasts, but they will not be able to control Fedor. The may have him in a bad position, but not for long, he is a master at escapes and capitalizing when the windown of opportunity presents it's self.
I've been watching Fedor for years, and at first i really disliked him (like most fo you ... if everyone says ONE THING, i always question it, FEDOR is #1...yeah, sure) ... I too thought he was overrated. Kinda like Michael Jordan, you don't wanna believe a guy is that good, but realistically, he is. I used to watch his fights to see him lose, but time after time, he capitalized on the openings his opponents gave him and was the dominant fighter everytime he stepped into the ring.
This will not change, he's in his PRIME (only getting wiser) and there is NO SIGN of slowing down.
Bezzerkerr
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a quote from M-1 Exec Jerry Millen
on FEDOR fighting for/in the UFC:
"It's got to be a good deal," Millen said. "When you sign with the UFC, most guys sign their soul away. Fedor doesn't have to sign his soul away, number one, because he's at the top of the game, and he's doing very well without signing with the UFC. So he doesn't have to sell his soul. He's the kind of guy that won't sell his soul."
this is another reason why I respect Fedor, he is not giving into the UFC. Plain & Simple, he doesn't have to ... why? BECAUSE he's #1.
on FEDOR fighting for/in the UFC:
"It's got to be a good deal," Millen said. "When you sign with the UFC, most guys sign their soul away. Fedor doesn't have to sign his soul away, number one, because he's at the top of the game, and he's doing very well without signing with the UFC. So he doesn't have to sell his soul. He's the kind of guy that won't sell his soul."
this is another reason why I respect Fedor, he is not giving into the UFC. Plain & Simple, he doesn't have to ... why? BECAUSE he's #1.
Devil_666
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1. No restarts or stalls.
2. Control: unlike a ring, you can press your opponent up against the fence to work the clinch/tire them out and on the ground you can trap them there for GNP.
3. A LOT of fighters who've never fought in a cage need major adjustment. Not all.. but a lot. See Mirko Cro Cop.
Just a few examples of the differences between a cage and a ring. Also, the biggest difference between other orgs Fedor has fought in and the UFC would be Elbows. They're allowed and legal in the UFC. It's no secret Fedor cuts easy. And the easy way to get cut is to get a nice elbow. See Kenny Florian.
Anyone can lose. Fedor included. It all depends on your level of competition. And regarding Fedor, it's no surprise he hasn't lost in a long time considering he doesn't fight top competition often. Like I said, just one month shy of 3 years between him fighting Mirko Cro Cop and Tim Sylvia (Ranked HW opponents). That's pathetic. No matter how you try to spin it.
Right. He doesn't want to be "owned" by the UFC yet he has no problem being "owned" by Vadim Finklestein. Makes sense. 
1. No restarts or stalls.
2. Control: unlike a ring, you can press your opponent up against the fence to work the clinch/tire them out and on the ground you can trap them there for GNP.
3. A LOT of fighters who've never fought in a cage need major adjustment. Not all.. but a lot. See Mirko Cro Cop.
Just a few examples of the differences between a cage and a ring. Also, the biggest difference between other orgs Fedor has fought in and the UFC would be Elbows. They're allowed and legal in the UFC. It's no secret Fedor cuts easy. And the easy way to get cut is to get a nice elbow. See Kenny Florian.
Anyone can lose. Fedor included. It all depends on your level of competition. And regarding Fedor, it's no surprise he hasn't lost in a long time considering he doesn't fight top competition often. Like I said, just one month shy of 3 years between him fighting Mirko Cro Cop and Tim Sylvia (Ranked HW opponents). That's pathetic. No matter how you try to spin it.
You always bring up top competition. While in Pride or before Brock Lesner who was the Top Competition Fedor hasn't fought or ducked?
Fedor tried to fight Couture but Dana White stopped that fight, people complain about M-1 not signing with the UFC to fight Lesner, I'm still pissed about Dana stopping Couture from fighting Fedor. That fight was ready to go.
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I'm not going to get into a pissing match with everyone but I will say this. When Brock first came in the UFC I would have agreed he was very much one dimensional, but I think he is now he more well rounded. Yes Fedor knocked Rodgers out but that was by no means a one sided victory. I think if Brock lands some of the same shots Rodgers did the fight wouldn't last too long. I bet Randy would be happy to tell you how hard he hits.
Anything can happen at any second in this sport, so its very difficult to say who would win unless they actually fight. I'm not doubting that "some" sell their souls for a shot in the UFC, but I highly doubt any of the big names really have to put their necks out. Fedor chose who he wanted to fight and he chose not to fight the big names. Its really simple as that and hat will unfortunately be part of his legacy once he calls it a career.
Anything can happen at any second in this sport, so its very difficult to say who would win unless they actually fight. I'm not doubting that "some" sell their souls for a shot in the UFC, but I highly doubt any of the big names really have to put their necks out. Fedor chose who he wanted to fight and he chose not to fight the big names. Its really simple as that and hat will unfortunately be part of his legacy once he calls it a career.
you're a chump, stop talking like you're the end all be all of MMA authority.
"get on the mat, or ring, and then come talk to me." LOL
ProgMatinee
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Ocho is loco!For what its worth, I think at the top of the ranks most fights are a coin flip. Anyone can suffer a slip up or a bad cut. A few more hits to the nose and they could have stopped the Fedor/Rogers fight, who knows? So anyway, anyone expounding on how Fedor would destroy all comers or Brock would destroy all comers, etc is wrong. These fights aren't best of 7 series where the better fighter comes out on top 4/7 times. They're one offs and there are an infinite number of scenerios where a lesser fighter on paper can take the match.
My buds take wagers on the pprvw fights and most follow MMA pretty seriously and trust me, I've seen the wives win the pools based on picking who has the most tats or the worst haircut, etc.
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hairlesswookiee
PALPATINE CRUSADER!!!!
The Rocky Vs. Hulk charity match comes to mind after reading that article. I hope that dude is joking and trying to hype up the charity event because if he's not I'm afraid he's gonna get a rude awakening.
Devil_666
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While in PRIDE the two biggest omissions are Mirko Cro Cop (Rematch) and Josh Barnett. Also Fedor could've fought Fabricio Werdum, Sergei Kharitonov or hell even Heath Herring (Rematch) instead of Zulu, Mark Coleman II and Mark Hunt.
After PRIDE, instead of BoDog and Matt Lindland + Yarennoka and Hong Man Choi Fedor could've joined the UFC and fought Randy Couture right then and there for the UFC HW Title. Or he could've fought Gonzaga who just smashed Cro Cop and THEN Couture. Or even before that he could've fought Sylvia for the belt.
There was plenty of options. Plenty of guys Fedor never fought. Instead, him and his management picked safe fights with unranked/irrelevant fighters in the HW division. That's why I can't understand how you can honestly think he cleared out the HW division!?
Then you have no reason to be pissed, because there was no way that fight was happening. And if you mean that fight was "ready to go" as far as people talking about it.. ok. Because other than talk there was no fight in the making. Couture was still under contract with the UFC. They even went through a lengthy court process and Couture eventually re-signed because he was gonna HAVE TO fight in the UFC for a minimum of 2 fights anyways to fullfill his contractual obligation. He tried to retire to break his contract, and that didn't work. So I'm not sure why you're all worked up!? There was never a possibility of that fight happening outside of the UFC, which could've happened if Fedor would've signed.
While in PRIDE the two biggest omissions are Mirko Cro Cop (Rematch) and Josh Barnett. Also Fedor could've fought Fabricio Werdum, Sergei Kharitonov or hell even Heath Herring (Rematch) instead of Zulu, Mark Coleman II and Mark Hunt.
After PRIDE, instead of BoDog and Matt Lindland + Yarennoka and Hong Man Choi Fedor could've joined the UFC and fought Randy Couture right then and there for the UFC HW Title. Or he could've fought Gonzaga who just smashed Cro Cop and THEN Couture. Or even before that he could've fought Sylvia for the belt.
There was plenty of options. Plenty of guys Fedor never fought. Instead, him and his management picked safe fights with unranked/irrelevant fighters in the HW division. That's why I can't understand how you can honestly think he cleared out the HW division!?
Then you have no reason to be pissed, because there was no way that fight was happening. And if you mean that fight was "ready to go" as far as people talking about it.. ok. Because other than talk there was no fight in the making. Couture was still under contract with the UFC. They even went through a lengthy court process and Couture eventually re-signed because he was gonna HAVE TO fight in the UFC for a minimum of 2 fights anyways to fullfill his contractual obligation. He tried to retire to break his contract, and that didn't work. So I'm not sure why you're all worked up!? There was never a possibility of that fight happening outside of the UFC, which could've happened if Fedor would've signed.
Werdum, Kharitonov or Herring, your such a tool. And the Couture fight would of happened if the UFC didnt have to bring the matter to court. It dosent matter, cause your so Pro-UFC, its such a joke, lick Dana's balls some more. You have a 1-track mind in MMA, fighters need other outlets and opportunities to fight. But all you see is the UFC, and anything not UFC you knock and cry about, like a baby. So go ahead and cry some more. Nobody cares.
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I hope one day, UFC is it. No more of these 'the best in the world' fighters fighting in different leagues, away from where the most of the best are. Just one super league. Like the NFL. Not sure how that would work in a business sense, but I'd like to see it happen 
Devil_666
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WASEDO said:
What the hell does Strikeforce have? Only cat walks and boring fighters. They have Fedor and thats it. Everyone is pro UFC cause they have the better fighters, its not even close. Once again, if you havent beaten the best, your not the best. Its a simple concept. The way i see it, UFC has 4 out of the 5 best P4P fighters in the world.
Another stupid post by you becuase your a dumb UFC-nuthugger. Just like your dumb wise cracks in the "Movie Screenshot Thread", another thread you ruined. Why do you even post here? You dont collect anything, do you?
Your just a TUF-Noob trying to be cool on a toy forum, if it wasnt for me you wouldnt know who Fedor was and your just jealous. The UFC HW's always sucked, Couture tried to leave the UFC for that reason, but now they got Brock, the greatest 5-1 HW in the World. A guy who just pulled out of a fight becuase he would of failed the Steroid test. Wake up devildog, you lose again.
Free UFC event tomorrow!
Not a bad card for free, I actually like these match ups better then the last UFC, just not sure about Couture, thats a strange fight.
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