UFC, etc.

[Devil_666]

100% agreed, the UFC means nothing to his Legacy. Plus Brock only has 5 fights so I guess he's a noob just like Rogers. So why should Fedor fight Brock.

I've explained this like 1000 times yet you still can't grasp it. I'll try again. The UFC is the biggest MMA company in the world. Not just North America. The WORLD. Most top 10 fighters per weight division, only title belts with any history, the biggest amount of MMA talent in a single organization. It's the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc. of MMA. Anyone who disputes that is delusional. Fedor needs to fight in the UFC. Period. Doesn't matter who in the UFC HW division he fights. That's irrelevant.

Earl "The Goat" Manigault is considered a great Basketball player. But his name will never be mentioned along side of Jordan, Kobe, etc. because he never played in the NBA.

The reason people dispute that Fedor is #1 P4P fighter in the world and the reason people dispute how great he is, is because he flat out refuses to fight for the biggest MMA company in the world. He's content to fight for smaller orgs which have lesser fighters.

Bret Rogers was ranked #6 at HW because of his win over Arlovski. Ok, fine. Now the problem is, Fedor's next two potential match-ups in Strikeforce will be against unranked opponents. Werdum and Overeem are not ranked top 10 HW's.

That's the legacy of Fedor.

Fighting cans, non HW's and unranked opponents. If Fedor would've joined the UFC, he could've fought the #2 HW and UFC champ Brock Lesnar. Or the #4 HW Frank Mir. Or even a rematch with the #5 HW Big Nog. And beyond that, #8 - 10 in Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velasquez and Shane Carwin.

Plus more up and coming HW's who might move into the top 10. But no, instead Fedor went to Strikeforce to fight a guy who's ranked higher than the guy who actually holds that company's HW title.

I love it when people say stupid ish like "There's plenty of HW's outside the UFC for Fedor to fight". Yeah.. and almost ALL of them are unranked. So who cares!?

Meanwhile GSP and A.Silva continue to decimate their divisions and fight top 10 opponents back to back to back and in A.Silva's case even going up a weight division to fight top 10 opponents (Griffin still ranked #5 at LHW). GSP's last 6 opponents were 5 Top 5 WW's (Koscheck, Hughes, Serra, Fitch and Alves) and B.J. Penn was ranked #1 in the LW division + the LW Champ.

Show me a single instance in Fedor's entire career where he's fought that many top 5 opponents. Show me a single instance in his career where he's fought as many top 10 opponents in a row as both GSP and Anderson Silva are doing now. You can't. Because he never has and he never will. Fedor has never cleaned out his division either like GSP and Anderson.

So put him on a pedestal and worship him. And keep saying he's the best ever. Meanwhile he won't be fighting again until mid-to late next year and even then he'll be fighting an unranked HW. Whoopie!!!

 

[Deeznutz6]

Couldnt agree more, to be the best you have to beat the best, and until youve done that CBS should get off Fedors sack.

Is Doug Flutie the best QB in Football cuz he won some Grey Cups (those are Canadian Football championships)?? Hell no, he is measured by what he did in the NFL

 

[nash]

FEDOR, once again proved why he is the best fighter on the world.

impressed, unimpressed ... dude deserves respect. He knocked out a mountain of a man who has made a short career in knocking people out.

Love em ... hate em ... he is the BEST FIGHTER in the WORLD and we will NEVER see another fighter like him.

The only one briging up UFC vs Strikeforce vs anyone else is Nasdeo.

I could care less about the UFC. but being a LOGICAL human being, and looking at Rogers' past record, he has NOT faced tough challenges to consider him a worthy opponent or "true test" of Fedor's supremacy. THis is FACTS, use some of them instead of stipulation and assumptions.

Maybe not, but he was beating the crap out of Fedor for most of round one. He threw a lazy punch and got KTFO. I give Rogers a lot of credit, he did a lot better than I expected and managed to get out of the first round. What's next for Fedor, Fabricio Werdum? I can't say I'm terribly excited for that fight either.

As far as Mayhem / Shields - boooororrrrrrrinnnnnnggggggg. Why did the commentators keep mentioning Shield's ju jitsu when all he did was lay and pray? Another boring wrestler. Granted he kept dominant position, but did nothing while on top. I wouldn't have been surprised if they gave Mayhem the decision if this fight was fought in Japan.

A lot of Fedor's opponents have gone past the first round and some even managed to give him problems. Most of whom you probably have never heard of before, and rightfully so....they are not very significant in the overall picture of quality fighters. Does that mean just because they gave him problems or got out of round one they are quality fighters?

Im not disputing that Fedor did well. For someone who hasnt fought in that long, he did alright for himself. My point is, Rogers is no where near the calibur of fighter to start saying that Fedor is THE BEST IN THE WORLD just because he has now been beat.

 

[Devil_666]

So word now is Big Nog will be fighting Cain Velasquez at 108 as the main event. Nogueira by Submission.

 

[kobayashi93]

I'm going with Cain by vicious tko in that one...

I'll take Vera, Swick, Bisping, Wilks, and Riley for this weekend's main card.

Imo Vera will let his hands fly in this one. Hopefully Randy takes him down and smothers him.

 

[azurepred]

I've explained this like 1000 times yet you still can't grasp it. I'll try again. The UFC is the biggest MMA company in the world. Not just North America. The WORLD. Most top 10 fighters per weight division, only title belts with any history, the biggest amount of MMA talent in a single organization. It's the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc. of MMA. Anyone who disputes that is delusional. Fedor needs to fight in the UFC. Period. Doesn't matter who in the UFC HW division he fights. That's irrelevant.

Earl "The Goat" Manigault is considered a great Basketball player. But his name will never be mentioned along side of Jordan, Kobe, etc. because he never played in the NBA.

The reason people dispute that Fedor is #1 P4P fighter in the world and the reason people dispute how great he is, is because he flat out refuses to fight for the biggest MMA company in the world. He's content to fight for smaller orgs which have lesser fighters.

Bret Rogers was ranked #6 at HW because of his win over Arlovski. Ok, fine. Now the problem is, Fedor's next two potential match-ups in Strikeforce will be against unranked opponents. Werdum and Overeem are not ranked top 10 HW's.

That's the legacy of Fedor.

Fighting cans, non HW's and unranked opponents. If Fedor would've joined the UFC, he could've fought the #2 HW and UFC champ Brock Lesnar. Or the #4 HW Frank Mir. Or even a rematch with the #5 HW Big Nog. And beyond that, #8 - 10 in Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velasquez and Shane Carwin.

Plus more up and coming HW's who might move into the top 10. But no, instead Fedor went to Strikeforce to fight a guy who's ranked higher than the guy who actually holds that company's HW title.

I love it when people say stupid ish like "There's plenty of HW's outside the UFC for Fedor to fight". Yeah.. and almost ALL of them are unranked. So who cares!?

Meanwhile GSP and A.Silva continue to decimate their divisions and fight top 10 opponents back to back to back and in A.Silva's case even going up a weight division to fight top 10 opponents (Griffin still ranked #5 at LHW). GSP's last 6 opponents were 5 Top 5 WW's (Koscheck, Hughes, Serra, Fitch and Alves) and B.J. Penn was ranked #1 in the LW division + the LW Champ.

Show me a single instance in Fedor's entire career where he's fought that many top 5 opponents. Show me a single instance in his career where he's fought as many top 10 opponents in a row as both GSP and Anderson Silva are doing now. You can't. Because he never has and he never will. Fedor has never cleaned out his division either like GSP and Anderson.

So put him on a pedestal and worship him. And keep saying he's the best ever. Meanwhile he won't be fighting again until mid-to late next year and even then he'll be fighting an unranked HW. Whoopie!!!

Pretty much! To be the best, you gotta beat the best, and fedor ain't done s^^^

 

[NASEDO]

I've explained this like 1000 times yet you still can't grasp it. I'll try again. The UFC is the biggest MMA company in the world. Not just North America. The WORLD. Most top 10 fighters per weight division, only title belts with any history, the biggest amount of MMA talent in a single organization. It's the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc. of MMA. Anyone who disputes that is delusional. Fedor needs to fight in the UFC. Period. Doesn't matter who in the UFC HW division he fights. That's irrelevant.

Earl "The Goat" Manigault is considered a great Basketball player. But his name will never be mentioned along side of Jordan, Kobe, etc. because he never played in the NBA.

The reason people dispute that Fedor is #1 P4P fighter in the world and the reason people dispute how great he is, is because he flat out refuses to fight for the biggest MMA company in the world. He's content to fight for smaller orgs which have lesser fighters.

Bret Rogers was ranked #6 at HW because of his win over Arlovski. Ok, fine. Now the problem is, Fedor's next two potential match-ups in Strikeforce will be against unranked opponents. Werdum and Overeem are not ranked top 10 HW's.

That's the legacy of Fedor.

Fighting cans, non HW's and unranked opponents. If Fedor would've joined the UFC, he could've fought the #2 HW and UFC champ Brock Lesnar. Or the #4 HW Frank Mir. Or even a rematch with the #5 HW Big Nog. And beyond that, #8 - 10 in Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velasquez and Shane Carwin.

Plus more up and coming HW's who might move into the top 10. But no, instead Fedor went to Strikeforce to fight a guy who's ranked higher than the guy who actually holds that company's HW title.

I love it when people say stupid ish like "There's plenty of HW's outside the UFC for Fedor to fight". Yeah.. and almost ALL of them are unranked. So who cares!?

Meanwhile GSP and A.Silva continue to decimate their divisions and fight top 10 opponents back to back to back and in A.Silva's case even going up a weight division to fight top 10 opponents (Griffin still ranked #5 at LHW). GSP's last 6 opponents were 5 Top 5 WW's (Koscheck, Hughes, Serra, Fitch and Alves) and B.J. Penn was ranked #1 in the LW division + the LW Champ.

Show me a single instance in Fedor's entire career where he's fought that many top 5 opponents. Show me a single instance in his career where he's fought as many top 10 opponents in a row as both GSP and Anderson Silva are doing now. You can't. Because he never has and he never will. Fedor has never cleaned out his division either like GSP and Anderson.

So put him on a pedestal and worship him. And keep saying he's the best ever. Meanwhile he won't be fighting again until mid-to late next year and even then he'll be fighting an unranked HW. Whoopie!!!

I'm not going to even bother replying to such a stupid post, your a dummy, you writing a book. Go join the UG, your posting about the UFC in a toy forum, loser. 5 people here watch the UFC. Go write your stupid crap in any MMA forum and see how bad they eat you up.

All the post were fine after the SF card until you had to bring your negativity, and of course I had to be mentioned cause you love me. Its so funny how pissed you get about Fedor, boy you have problems.

 

[NASEDO]

The only one briging up UFC vs Strikeforce vs anyone else is Nasdeo.



A.

You got that wrong, Thats Devil. And why did you waste money on a Fedor shirt. Poser, jump on the Bandwagon.

 

[Bezzerkerr]

if Fedor fought in the UFC who would beat him?

Im very intertested to hear EVERYONE out. the answer is NO ONE. He is THAT good.

He is the BJ, GSP, SPIDER of the Heavyweight division...he is in a leauge of his own...even as an undersized Heavyweight.

UFC's Heavyweight division would DEFINATELY give him a good test, but no UFC Heavyweight would beat him.

Fedor has TOO MANY tools for ANYONE to deal with!

 

[bumblebee]

if Fedor fought in the UFC who would beat him?

Im very intertested to hear EVERYONE out. the answer is NO ONE. He is THAT good.

He is the BJ, GSP, SPIDER of the Heavyweight division...he is in a leauge of his own...even as an undersized Heavyweight.

UFC's Heavyweight division would DEFINATELY give him a good test, but no UFC Heavyweight would beat him.

Fedor has TOO MANY tools for ANYONE to deal with!

thanks I needed a good laugh today!

 

[Bezzerkerr]

thanks I needed a good laugh today!

alright funny guy...you never answered my question.

Who in the UFC will beat FEDOR?

i would love to hear your brilliant opinion.

 

[darkknight]

Fedor is one bad ass fighter but IMO he is over rated.
I think Big Nog, Lesner and Couture. You never know what could happen in MMA.

 

[Devil_666]

You never know what could happen in MMA.

Exactly. Who knows. B.J. Penn, GSP, Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida, Brock Lesnar: ALL these guys can be beat. ALL of them could lose on any given night. That's the fight game. That's why I don't understand the "Fedor is invincible" garbage.

your a dummy

The Irony.

 

[Deeznutz6]

if Fedor fought in the UFC who would beat him?

Im very intertested to hear EVERYONE out. the answer is NO ONE. He is THAT good.

He is the BJ, GSP, SPIDER of the Heavyweight division...he is in a leauge of his own...even as an undersized Heavyweight.

UFC's Heavyweight division would DEFINATELY give him a good test, but no UFC Heavyweight would beat him.

Fedor has TOO MANY tools for ANYONE to deal with!

Very possible that he coudl beat all the HW's in the UFC, the point is, he hasnt attempted to.

 

[bumblebee]

alright funny guy...you never answered my question.

Who in the UFC will beat FEDOR?

i would love to hear your brilliant opinion.

Lesnar,Carwin,Nog(cage and ring are very diffrent),Velasquez,Dos Santos. Put any of these guys in a cage with Fedor and Fedor is gonna get his ass beat.

 

[Bezzerkerr]

Anything can happen any give night. (ex) GSP vs Serra, Spider SIlva vs Ryo Chonan.

Fedor is in no-way overrated. His past 3 fights he knocked out 2 UFC x-Heavyweight Champions & a serious up & comer that would give MANY UFC Heavyweights MAJOR PROBLEMS.

I respect Fedor because he gives Dana White the big F-U. There is a major misconception that Fedor is ducking the tough UFC competition. That is not true, he would love to come over to the UFC but he and his managers find Dana White's demands "unreasonable".

Dana wants to control his fighters like a kingpin. If Fedor signs a contract with the UFC he will no longer be able to compete in is beloved SAMBO competitions & tournaments (which he a 4X World Champion). This is just one stipulation, of signing with the UFC.

The UFC Heavyweight Division hands down has the best competition ion the world. I would be very interested to see FEDOR VS: Dos Santos, Cawrin, Gonzaga, Big Nog (for a 3rd time), Velaz, Randy and of course Brock.

Once again, if i had to put money on these fights, i'd bet Fedor everytime.

why, you ask ... because he's the

 

[Devil_666]

Fedor is in no-way overrated. His past 3 fights he knocked out 2 UFC x-Heavyweight Champions & a serious up & comer that would give MANY UFC Heavyweights MAJOR PROBLEMS.

The keyword you're missing there is "Former". 2 Former UFC HW Champs. And don't get it twisted, Tim Sylvia was 1 - 2 in his last three fights before leaving the UFC. Going into the Fedor fight he was choked out by Big Nog. Arlovski, his biggest career win was against Tim Sylvia, which resulted in him losing the rematch AND rubber match. And 99% of all his losses were via (T)KO. He has a glass jaw.

And no, Bret Rogers wouldn't give the majority of HW's in the UFC "MAJOR PROBLEMS" simply because his wrestling/ground game is sub-par. And the UFC HW division is full of wrestlers/grapplers.

I respect Fedor because he gives Dana White the big F-U. There is a major misconception that Fedor is ducking the tough UFC competition. That is not true, he would love to come over to the UFC but he and his managers find Dana White's demands "unreasonable".

Dana wants to control his fighters like a kingpin. If Fedor signs a contract with the UFC he will no longer be able to compete in is beloved SAMBO competitions & tournaments (which he a 4X World Champion). This is just one stipulation, of signing with the UFC.

ugh.. are you WASEDO on a secondary account!? The UFC already said Fedor could do Sambo. Guess you haven't been following along bro. Fedor and his management had a long list of BS demands the first time around. No deal was made. Second time around, the UFC said yes to every single BS demand Fedor and his management had except one: Co-Promotion. Vadim the leech wanted the UFC to Co-Promote with M-1 Global. THAT'S what prevented Fedor from signing with the UFC. Get your facts straight.

As far as posting pics.. two can play that game.

 

[nash]

You got that wrong, Thats Devil. And why did you waste money on a Fedor shirt. Poser, jump on the Bandwagon.

No, i got it right on the money. YOURE the one always bringing up comparing the UFC to any other organizations. YOURE the one who doesn't know what the ???? you are talking about. All you do is cut and paste other people's opinons from your stupid UG forum and sherdog.

The real question is, why do WE waste our time with an inbred loser like you. I never said I disliked Fedor, I said I don't think he IS THE BEST. you're just a Fedor sack licker.

 

[bumblebee]

Anyone find the Vera walkout tee for 105?

 

[Bezzerkerr]

Get your facts straight.

So you never answered my question ... Who in the UFC will beat FEDOR?

The answer is NO ONE, no matter how many pics you post.


It's OK no matter what you say or do, it won'tr discounts the FACT that FEDOR is the BEST IN THE WORLD...and you're just a punk that thinks he's tough because he comments on MMA topics.

Get on the Mat, or ring, and then come talk to me.