UFC, etc.

[hairlesswookiee]

After listening to the post fight talk with rogan, think he wanted to lose think hes had enough of the pressure and talks of superfights with this guy and that guy

Yeah, I'm sure he wanted Weidman to use bounce his head on the canvas like a basketball.

What happened last night was a simple situation where Weidman took advantage of a common Silva strategy. You can claim "fixed" or "Anderson doesn't care anymore" all you want, but everything leading up to the fight, all the way to his antics during the fight, and him actually defending multiple attempts by Weidman to mount and sub, etc, all point to the idea that he cared pretty much.

 

[batmanfan23]

I dont understand the hatred for silva. The showboating isnt for the sake of showboating its to bait the other guy into his game. Wiedman had the advantage on the ground so silva does those things to take him out of his gameplan and want to punch him in the face. The strategy was working, Weidman said he got taken out of his game plan, silva just got caught. Good win for wiedman. If Silva was fighting a guy where it was clear that he had the advantage in striking, jiu jitsu, and striking and he showboated, fine you can hate on that as a fan. But he does these things as a strategy to make them fight his fight, its not blind arrogance. I understand why the casual fan would think that though.

 

[ArmoredFoe]

Now I dont care for Chris Wiedman at all but he did take advantage of Silvas style and how he plays games. Im still sticking with hes bored and just doesnt care. The guys cemented his legacy as the best p4p fighter. I still think Anderson beats Chris 9 times out of 10.

Im not taking away the win from Chris, but again I just think Anderson is bored and ready to move on. His defense against those attacks were just that defense, I mean he wasnt trying to lose, but him going in there playing his games that he does eventually caught up to him and he got KO'ed. Totally legit loss, Chris beat him. I still think Chris is over rated. His test will be his defenses with the belt. Who ever gets this next shot at the belt, Chris better destroy him or its only going to even more so show that Anderson is a bored fighter at the top of a mountain and ready to come down.

 

[azurepred]

And let me set the record straight from my point of view. Tonight's loss does not in any way tarnish Silva's legacy as the best P4P MMA fighter in history. Anderson was the champ from Oct 14, 2006 until July 6, 2013.

Every great champion has his day...it happened to Ali, it happened to Tyson, it happened to Silva.

Give Weidman the credit he deserves. Everyone has known Silva's game plan for the last 5+ years and Weidman was the only one to beat him. Anderson was no more cocky in this fight than he has been for a long time. It's part of his game plan....act cocky and get your opponent to over engage so he can counterstrike their ***. The difference tonight was that Weidman didn't over engage to much....just enough to K Silva TFO....nothing more, nothing less.

Weidman is the champ and deserves every praise that goes with being the champ AND doing something no other challenger to Silva's title reign could do.

That being said, I did lose money on the fight. I was torn and went with the champ 51% - 49% and I lost.....just like The Spider.

I think the biggest key to Weidman's victory tonight was the kiss from Anderson during the weigh-ins...no one else got a kiss and they all lost, LOL.

but the thing is, Silva doesn't do that with guys who he feels are dangerous in striking. He never even did that crap with Sonnen. I believe Sonnen knocked him on his *** 2 or 3 times the first fight. He didn't do it with Belfort either. So it's really a mystery why he felt Weidman possessed no power. There's no way a great fighter like Silva would want this to be his last fight, too much ego. There has to be a rematch. People say he doesn't deserve it, well, he had the title for 7 years, that's all there is to be said. I wanna see if Weidman can beat a Silva that is focused and determined. The title doesn't even have to be on the line I guess.

 

[surfin4]

Yeah, I'm sure he wanted Weidman to use bounce his head on the canvas like a basketball.

What happened last night was a simple situation where Weidman took advantage of a common Silva strategy. You can claim "fixed" or "Anderson doesn't care anymore" all you want, but everything leading up to the fight, all the way to his antics during the fight, and him actually defending multiple attempts by Weidman to mount and sub, etc, all point to the idea that he cared pretty much.

Not saying its a fact but its been rumoured for months he seems to want out of the ufc, at one point he had weidman in the thai plum against the cage and let him out of it without any attempt at a knee, the stuff he was doing was beyond showboating it was suicidal

 

[wanderlai]

I'd advise Weidman to brush up on his Portuguese. I have a feeling the rematch will be in Brazil.

 

[wyattroa]

Not saying its a fact but its been rumoured for months he seems to want out of the ufc, at one point he had weidman in the thai plum against the cage and let him out of it without any attempt at a knee, the stuff he was doing was beyond showboating it was suicidal

I noticed that too...Before he would throw knees in that situation. He just pushed him away. I said it to my wife as I was watching it,, here come the knees and nothing came...Even Joe commented on it on air about not throwing a knee.
Robert

 

[NASEDO]

Silva signed a 10 fight contact, he doesn't want out. Dana may let him fight Roy Jones Jr., probably in the UFC. But Dana loves rematches so I'm bet that comes next.

But Anderson is an idiot, and got whats coming. After some dumb crap like that, his legacy is hurt. The clown got clowned!!!!! And a KO like that, the way it happened is how ppl will remember him.

 

[Pixelpiper]

I'm not at all a big Silva fan. I recognize his significance and dominance in his weight class and respect him for that however.

Anyone who believes for even 1 second that Silva did not intentionally throw last night's fight has not been watching UFC very long. I'm not saying management had anything to do with a "fix" - but nonetheless, the fight was thrown intentionally. Further, it was planned to be thrown well before the fighters entered the octagon. I don't believe that Weidman was in on any of the shenanigans.

Weidman could not on his best day, beat Silva on his worst. People should not be so stunned at Anderson's tossing in the towel, but instead how essentially a nobody, like Weidman, even gets a title shot to begin with. Beating Munoz put him there? Come on.

Do yourselves a favor and go back to watch the Sonnen 1 and Sonnen 2 fights again to see how Silva can take a beating. BTW, should Weidman fight Sonnen, he's going to get crushed. Unless it's fixed. You might also want to watch the pre-fight interviews, the weigh-in and listen to the interviews after the fight. There're a lot more to be told besides what happened in the ring (though that's pretty strong evidence on its own).

 

[surfin4]

Yeah......just very bizarre, end of the 1st round silva calling him on, slapping his thigh, bell rings he hugs weidman and kisses him on the cheek, walks back to his corner turns around and starts screaming and gesturing to weidman so much so his own corner men have to pull him away and can be heard telling him calm down......just strange emotions that seemed to have no real bearing on what was actually going on....still cant understand it and for the record would not class myself a fan since the damien maia fight, lost alot of respect for him that night.

 

[King Darkness]

I'm not at all a big Silva fan. I recognize his significance and dominance in his weight class and respect him for that however.

Anyone who believes for even 1 second that Silva did not intentionally throw last night's fight has not been watching UFC very long. I'm not saying management had anything to do with a "fix" - but nonetheless, the fight was thrown intentionally. Further, it was planned to be thrown well before the fighters entered the octagon. I don't believe that Weidman was in on any of the shenanigans.

Weidman could not on his best day, beat Silva on his worst. People should not be so stunned at Anderson's tossing in the towel, but instead how essentially a nobody, like Weidman, even gets a title shot to begin with. Beating Munoz put him there? Come on.

Do yourselves a favor and go back to watch the Sonnen 1 and Sonnen 2 fights again to see how Silva can take a beating. BTW, should Weidman fight Sonnen, he's going to get crushed. Unless it's fixed. You might also want to watch the pre-fight interviews, the weigh-in and listen to the interviews after the fight. There're a lot more to be told besides what happened in the ring (though that's pretty strong evidence on its own).

 

[Devil_666]

Let's face it, Silva lost because he underestimated his opponent. I wouldn't even be surprised to find out that he didn't even properly train for the fight ala Tyson vs. Buster Douglas because that's how confident he was that Weidman stood no chance against him. His mistake. His loss.

But with that said, to suggest that he threw the fight in any way is crazy. Unless you think Tyson threw his fight against Douglas? Or GSP threw the first fight against Serra? Or Fedor threw 3 fights in a row to Werdum, Bigfoot and Hendo!?

No. The reality is, guys on top who seem unstoppable CAN and eventually DO lose sometimes. It doesn't mean their opponents are better or even more skilled. It just means on that particular night their opponents were better. Period.

There's no conspiracy. One guy beat another guy. End of story.

 

[ProgMatinee]

I'm not at all a big Silva fan. I recognize his significance and dominance in his weight class and respect him for that however.

Anyone who believes for even 1 second that Silva did not intentionally throw last night's fight has not been watching UFC very long. I'm not saying management had anything to do with a "fix" - but nonetheless, the fight was thrown intentionally. Further, it was planned to be thrown well before the fighters entered the octagon. I don't believe that Weidman was in on any of the shenanigans.

Weidman could not on his best day, beat Silva on his worst. People should not be so stunned at Anderson's tossing in the towel, but instead how essentially a nobody, like Weidman, even gets a title shot to begin with. Beating Munoz put him there? Come on.

Do yourselves a favor and go back to watch the Sonnen 1 and Sonnen 2 fights again to see how Silva can take a beating. BTW, should Weidman fight Sonnen, he's going to get crushed. Unless it's fixed. You might also want to watch the pre-fight interviews, the weigh-in and listen to the interviews after the fight. There're a lot more to be told besides what happened in the ring (though that's pretty strong evidence on its own).

Thats so dumb. You do realize that occasionally a glancing shot across the chin can put anyone down. It has nothing to do with being able to take a beating. If he was going to throw it he could have thrown it on a bigger shot to make it look more legit. Nope, this shot really affected him and was all the opening needed.

 

[bumblebee]

Not exactly fight related but I love the fact Weidman came out with the American flag. You see it so often from Brazilian fighters it's just cool to see a American showing the national pride.

 

[Devil_666]

OT as well but did anyone catch the new Las Vegas.com commercial with Cain?

 

[Pixelpiper]

Don't bring up comparisons to other fighters and sports, this has nothing to do with Tyson nor anyone else.

I did not say that Silva did not get hit. I did not say that the hit didn't hurt nor that it didn't stun him. Of course it did. But did it catch him by surprise? Only because he set himself up to get hit. The other blows also bounced his head off the mat - so what? Seriously, have you guys not watched enough of Silva's other matches and all the extra video content surrounding this bout? Regardless of how good Silva is or isn't, all the evidence points squarely at him putting his face out there ON PURPOSE to get knocked down.

He probably didn't know exactly how he'd do it, but, Silva lost this match because he went into the match planning to lose. And he got his way.

Do you honestly think the guy is that cocky/stupid as to actually close his eyes and wait for a punch? Because look at the tape again, he did that when he was playing around. And if he felt he got "caught" (and it wasn't on purpose) you don't think he'd carry that cocky attitude into the post fight and admit he was being too lax, that it was a lucky blow, that he wants a rematch? So instead he showers Weidman (a total nobody who will not last as champ) with insane amounts of praise, saying he's the new champ and that he's done with that belt? Come on.

I suspect you guys don't know anything about the contract that he'd just extended with the UFC either right?

 

[Pixelpiper]

just cool to see a American showing the national pride.

It was insanely tacky if you ask me. It's one thing if you're in a different country, but there's really no need to do it at home.

 

[Devil_666]

So instead he showers Weidman (a total nobody who will not last as champ) with insane amounts of praise

It's common to shower the guy who just beat your *** with praise because it would look pretty stupid to say you just got KTFO by a bum.

I suspect you guys don't know anything about the contract that he'd just extended with the UFC either right?

Everyone is aware and I already explained it's simply a gesture of good faith i.e. it's his way of saying he'll never fight for any other MMA promotion and that he'll retire with the UFC. He's not (and never was) planning on having 10 more fights.

 

[bumblebee]

It was insanely tacky if you ask me. It's one thing if you're in a different country, but there's really no need to do it at home.

**** that!



You ever see a UFC brazil card? Freaking flags everywhere by Brazilian fighters!




It's called pride.

 

[Devil_666]

You ever see a UFC brazil card? Freaking flags everywhere by Brazilian fighters!

I think flags are mandatory for fights in Brazil.