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I don't believe he was lying about any of what was going on in his own life. Still don't. And it did explain why he was having such a hard time honoring his obligations. It wasn't a sob story until he gave up, and no, I haven't fallen for it because I do not forgive him for his failure. And yes, that makes him a thief.

But as for your present tense usage, who is still defending him?



To the best of my knowledge, he lost pretty much everything he had. Collection, reputation, and yeah, his friends. I can bet you that none of them still have the respect they had for him before this all happened. His net loss was grossly higher than any one of his victims.

The difference is, he earned his loss and none of us did. In the end, he had it coming, and my only point in saying that at all is that for his friends, that's something that burns us, but none of you who were only in it for business.

Snuffy, Al, Leo, Little Moe with the gimpy leg, Cheeks, Boney Bob, Cliff... I could go on forever baby.

He lost everything? His Collection? He has all of it, he sold it but didn't ship it. He probably made off with about 5-10 thousand on top of what he had. Thats what I mean about believing the sob story. He sold ____ on sales here a few months back "his precious collection" and he never shipped any of it.

Are you not aware of the posts pointing out him showing off his recent purchases at recent at october? His activity on facebook where he has plenty of friends and plenty of time to play xbox on his live account? I see no one from this site in real life. I would never do this, but I could steal money and none of my everyday friends would have any idea.

Plenty of time to show off his new costume and decorations, to enter contests for fun?
 
Deckard said:
Snuffy, Al, Leo, Little Moe with the gimpy leg, Cheeks, Boney Bob, Cliff... I could go on forever baby.

Who? Here? :dunno

And no, as a matter of fact, I wasn't aware. Consider me schooled. If he actally profitted from all of this, and didn't just squander it all, then I recant.

You know any good recipes for crow?
 
I just can't even be bothered complaining or posting anything in here anymore. There's nothing I can do but wait.
If they don't show up now I wont be dissapointed. I was past that a long time ago , you live and learn I suppose.
 
Then make assumptions that slander someone else's name. If you're going to call people out, know what you're talking about.

I have every ounce of sympathy for what you lost. I lost too. I'm not saying that anyone should forgive the man. Just know who ripped you off, and try to minimize the collateral damage. No one who defended him was trying to help him get away with it, and accusing them of bullying anyone who spoke negatively of him does exactly that.

I apologize if you were insulted.

What I was trying to say in the post you took offense to was that in my opinion people were met with negative responses when asking for simple updates or voicing their opinions. A situation that I feel Josh took advantage of. In retrospect, referring to those who did this as cronies or bullies was wrong because it simplifies a complicated situation.

Reading some of your posts does actually change my perspective and I better understand where those who defended Josh are coming from. Many were frustrated by the situation as well and were reacting to the general hostility in the thread and/or were giving him the benefit of the doubt because he had been trustworthy up until this point.

Unfortunately, Josh took advantage of them as well and used their kindness to get away with thievery.

Thank you for the apology because I didn't appreciate your hostility towards me when I wasn't referring to you directly and wasn't familiar with you before your post directed me.

I apologize if I insulted you as well, I was venting and shouldn't have demonized all the people just trying to make sense of this horrible situation.

Josh is the thief (plain and simple, we all have reasons for bad actions) and must live with what he did. We were all victimized by him (especially those who trusted him as a friend) so we shouldn't attack each other as well.

:duff
 
[I]Who[/I]? Here? :dunno
And no, as a matter of fact, I wasn't aware. Consider me schooled. If he actally profitted from all of this, and didn't just squander it all, then I recant.

You know any good recipes for crow?

No one, at the moment, you want me to go through 500 pages of the other Josh thread, your on your own there. Again thats why its called a generalization, I didn't quote someone and say You. If you apply it to yourself, again thats your problem. But right after my post, ebayarea admitted to said behaviour of holding his tongue so you see what I'm getting at.

When theres a sign at the subway that says don't jump the turnstyles, do you find the transit authority and ask why they directed that sign at you?
 
I can see that, but as ebayarea also just pointed out, the situation was much more complicated than that. Not everyone who was defending him thought that doing so would get their stuff. I had pretty much given up on it when I hit the 1 year mark. Not that I wasn't going to keep encouraging him, but I didn't exactly have faith.

So yes, I can see exactly where you're coming from. So long as you can now see where I am coming from, we're good as far as I'm concerned. Sorry for reacting so severely.
 
i was one of the people who defended josh. and i can see now i was hoodwinked, and a mug. i just can't believe it took me so long. hate to mention the CH word, but the consequences of what happened here were exactly that, people's hard earned money and patience got abused. maybe over a much longer period of time and to a lesser monetary value but it still happened and it still stinks.

what makes it worse is hearing about his costly acquisitions. i'm just glad carl and jen stepped in when they did. at least now i have some hope heads to some of my old and rare HT figures can eventually go back on their bodies (after more than 3 years), albeit half painted and fubar.
 
just like rayrockguitar has said over the last year i have seen josh post on multiple forums that i visit and sell his items. i have talked to him under different names that i use and he was already to take money and "ship" the items but luckily i did not fall for it again. i never brought this up on this forum because of the "backlash" from his supporters so it was easier to keep my mouth shut.

and just like others have said when ordering the part 8 he told me he "had it down to a sciene" and will have it done in 2-3 weeks. then he started with the "sorry been sick" messages - into the figure is done just need to finish the mask and axe - and finally no responses.

i have known for months now that i will never see this figure so at this point i have all taken it as a loss.
 
just like rayrockguitar has said over the last year i have seen josh post on multiple forums that i visit and sell his items. i have talked to him under different names that i use and he was already to take money and "ship" the items but luckily i did not fall for it again.

How many supporters do you think he would have had if information like this would have been reported?

FAL5E said:
i never brought this up on this forum because of the "backlash" from his supporters so it was easier to keep my mouth shut.

Whatever.
 
Back in the other thread, there definitely was a fair amount of backlash to a few folks who were frustrated and got pissed. Particularly the ones who didn't seem to believe DA's stories or to be concerned with his personal problems when they called him names and/or wished him ill because of it. Some of the backlash felt fair to me at the time, but there was definitely some anger directed toward some of Josh's critics.

Not that it matters at this point.
 
There are enough people in this thread, surely with enough evidence via communications, paypal reciepts, etc., and his home address is known, so why not just come together and compile the evidence; present it to the local authorities where he lives and have his ass picked up. The amount he's made off with would be considered a felony.
 
:clap :clap

Ban him along with Sov Studios and every other dirty scumbag thief.

Those who defend him are cowards who hold there tongues in fear of not getting what they are owed.

He's only still here out of misplaced mod loyalty.
I'm no coward. Guess you don't have many friends. Friends help friends, even if that means defending them from what, at the time, were irrational verbal outbursts.
Back in the other thread, there definitely was a fair amount of backlash to a few folks who were frustrated and got pissed. Particularly the ones who didn't seem to believe DA's stories or to be concerned with his personal problems when they called him names and/or wished him ill because of it. Some of the backlash felt fair to me at the time, but there was definitely some anger directed toward some of Josh's critics.

Not that it matters at this point.

EXACTLY. If you look at the list I am waiting longer than most if not ALL of you. What pissed me off was guys like dront coming in here last and demanding he get his few things before anyone else. Whether that reaction was justified or not at that time is a moot point.
As far as I'm concerned Josh is gone and this thread is no longer about him. Now, its about ever hearing from Carl and seeing if we receive what he already picked up. :pray:
 
There are enough people in this thread, surely with enough evidence via communications, paypal reciepts, etc., and his home address is known, so why not just come together and compile the evidence; present it to the local authorities where he lives and have his ass picked up. The amount he's made off with would be considered a felony.

:lecture

Always wondered that myself, how is he getting away with it? Unless people like him are made an example of others will look upon this as an easy way of scamming money with no repercussions!

This guy needs to learn the hard way sorry but it's true
 
I'm no coward. Guess you don't have many friends. Friends help friends, even if that means defending them from what, at the time, were irrational verbal outbursts.:

Yea Friends do help friends. Not internet aqquantinces.

PM one of your pals on here and ask if you can stay with them for a few weeks until you can find a job because you just got laid off. I talk to people like Teddy everyday on the forums here, I wouldn't dare ask him such a thing.


I'm not so delusional or desperate for company that I don't know the differance between the people I see in real life everyday and who are actually there for me for things like dealing with cancer, or the loss of a loved one, and just the internet. You can't hug the internet.

Keep thinking you and Josh are pals though, thats gonna work for you.

Irrational, how much ____ing money does someone need to rob from you to make it rational? Did he need to be holding a knife or a gun for you to get it?
 
Yea Friends do help friends. Not internet aqquantinces.

PM one of your pals on here and ask if you can stay with them for a few weeks until you can find a job because you just got laid off. I talk to people like Teddy everyday on the forums here, I wouldn't dare ask him such a thing.


I'm not so delusional or desperate for company that I don't know the differance between the people I see in real life everyday and who are actually there for me for things like dealing with cancer, or the loss of a loved one, and just the internet. You can't hug the internet.

Keep thinking you and Josh are pals though, thats gonna work for you.

Irrational, how much ____ing money does someone need to rob from you to make it rational? Did he need to be holding a knife or a gun for you to get it?

You can stay round mine anytime buddy :wink1: :lol

I just don't get it, you people have waited for so long now and still nothing, when are you going to stop being so delusional. If he hasn't delivered in 2+ years then he has no intentions of doing so!

If it were my gear I would have given up by now but one thing is for sure I would want him punished for what he has done! That would give me the closure and satisfaction that I needed!

I say cast him in Dexter season 6 and let the Dark Passenger at him
 
Ah shucks. :lol

And PS, if Ironman could read even a page back, she/he would see that I said defend as in still to this day,(the people who still don't get it) and has basically just flipped out for no reason the same as devil last night who even admitted to misreading it as well. :clap

con·text   /ˈkɒntɛkst/ Show Spelled
[kon-tekst] Show IPA

–noun
1. the parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect: You have misinterpreted my remark because you took it out of context.

I believe the past tense usage your outburst is seeking is "ed".

Your misevaluation has proved some guilt for defending him in the past it seems however, which I suppose is something.
 
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