Westworld HBO series

[e30ernest]

On right! Yeah I need to rewatch season 2 also.
I'm waiting to see when MIB shows up this season and how he will he incorporated into it.

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I think MIB will be set in the far future based on where we saw him in Season 2. Currently I think Dolores/TT is in the past/immediate aftermath of Season 2, Maeve is just after that, then MIB will be in the future. That's just my wild guess though

 

[Johnny Utah]

I skimmed through episode 2. I'm out.

I'll always have season 1.

 

[Victοr]

I skimmed through episode 2. I'm out.

I'll always have season 1.

I just put it on as background noise. At 2.5x speed. While I paint. And I browse the 'net.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Get on with the revolution, for God's sake.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

The 2nd episode was tough to get through. They’re trying to do too much with this show

 

[Sidewinder]

Loved the third episode. Still don't know who Delores has put into Charlotte Hale. Is it Teddy or another copy of the original Delores without the Wyatt programming? I can't think of anyone else she would trust other than Teddy or herself.

I take it that the scenes where Hale was receiving those phone messages were flashbacks to the real Hale and in the last scene we see that she was a mole within Delos.

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[e30ernest]

Yeah seems my theory of Teddy was wrong. Whoever it could be would be familiar to Dolores (we likely met him/her) and has a mental issue of some kind. It could be her father, but there was a crazy theory that Hale is the other half of Dolores (the nice farm girl) while Wyatt is in Dolores' main body.

https://www.theringer.com/2020/3/29/21199179/westworld-s3e3-the-absence-of-field

I think Dolores did cut her arm open like Hale did in Season 1?

 

[Sidewinder]

Yeah seems my theory of Teddy was wrong. Whoever it could be would be familiar to Dolores (we likely met him/her) and has a mental issue of some kind. It could be her father, but there was a crazy theory that Hale is the other half of Dolores (the nice farm girl) while Wyatt is in Dolores' main body.

https://www.theringer.com/2020/3/29/21199179/westworld-s3e3-the-absence-of-field

I think Dolores did cut her arm open like Hale did in Season 1?

Episode 4 certainly explains it. Really enjoyed this episode.

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[BeefEaster]

This has just become another generic sci-fi show at this point. And a terribly dull one at that.

 

[e30ernest]

Episode 4 certainly explains it. Really enjoyed this episode.

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Aha yes. Ok now I am really interested....

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A bit Matrix like though isn't it? Dolores = Agent Smith, Maeve = Neo? We don't know who the villain is yet at this point. We're lead to believe it's Dolores, but I somehow think she's the anti-hero here.

 

[Sidewinder]

Aha yes. Ok now I am really interested....

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A bit Matrix like though isn't it? Dolores = Agent Smith, Maeve = Neo? We don't know who the villain is yet at this point. We're lead to believe it's Dolores, but I somehow think she's the anti-hero here.

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Yeah I'm not convinced Dolores is the villian. I don't really see her as the bad guy at this point. I also don't see that Maeve cares too much about what happens to the "real world". Even after this episode, I don't know if Dolores and Maeve will remain enemies till the end. I'd like to see them work together at some point.

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[e30ernest]

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Yeah I'm not convinced Dolores is the villian. I don't really see her as the bad guy at this point. I also don't see that Maeve cares too much about what happens to the "real world". Even after this episode, I don't know if Dolores and Maeve will remain enemies till the end. I'd like to see them work together at some point.

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So far, Dolores has been very calculating on every move she makes. I think leaving Maeve was a calculated move too so eventually, yes I do see them teaming up. You can see her try to cut off Maeve's scalp, probably to get the pearl and free her from that French dude (if she hasn't already removed whatever killswitch they added).

 

[Otomofan]

Hey guys...what if there was an ultra high tech theme park where guests could pretend they were in the wild west all day and shoot people and stuff? And there was a staff of computer scientists that were overseeing them all from a giant complex above the park? And someone awesome like Anthony Hopkins could be the weird old man that built the whole thing, but he has secrets?

Man, that would be a great show.

 

[ZE_501]

Get on with the revolution, for God's sake.

The 2nd episode was tough to get through. They?re trying to do too much with this show

This has just become another generic sci-fi show at this point. And a terribly dull one at that.

I'm up to epsiode 3 of season 3. I feel the show is suffering from issues particular to North American series and the streaming format:

• North American series tend to drag on until they jump the shark. I noticed a lot of really great UK series are short and self-contained. They tell the story and get out.
  
• For me, streaming series started to seem noticeably stretched and dull with the Marvel Netflix shows. I was along for the ride because initially I was enamoured of 'world-building' but most shows seem to have crossed some kind of threshold where it's a chore to get through them and keep track of them.

I should add that my own personal bias is a dislike of 'puzzle box' narratives, l still prefer linear storytelling, a couple of twists and turns, a big reveal and I'm good. I don't want to engage with theorizing and internet analysis ad nauseam, which admittedly makes this show a poor choice for me.

Westworld has gone from a relatively straightforward premise (albeit told in a roundabout way) -- AI in a game reach self-awareness and sentience -- to an ambitious, vague and drawn-out cyberpunk/dystopian story that has so far failed to grab me, in spite of beautifully realized world-building and some compelling ideas. It's a failure of entertainment, not a failure of ideas or craftsmanship, and that feels symptomatic of a lot of contemporary entertainment.

I think they could have told a nice, tight story inside of 2 seasons and left the rest to our imaginations.

As it is, this feels like a completely different show at the moment to the one I started to watch in Season 1.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I have the last two episodes on my dvr but it seems like such a chore to watch them I have not yet. No entertainment should be a chore.

I love the look of the future but I don't enjoy the narrative so far. Ironic, from a story where 'story' is the gag.

 

[punisher1974]

I have only seen the first season so far and I really liked that it. Great cast and set of characters. I heard season 2 isn't as good but I need to catch up on everything.

 

[Otomofan]

There's nothing to catch up on. The story is over at the end of season one. Just stop there.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

There's nothing to catch up on. The story is over at the end of season one. Just stop there.

That describes most of the HBO shows

 

[BeefEaster]

This show makes no sense.

So now they reveal there's this super computer AI that can forsee virtually every scenario and predict the future lives of nearly every human on earth. But they reveal in season 2 that the point of westworld was to gather info on its guests.

Sooo......why would that even be necessary if they already know everything and everyone's life is already planned out for them?

 

[Victοr]

This show makes no sense.

So now they reveal there's this super computer AI that can forsee virtually every scenario and predict the future lives of nearly every human on earth. But they reveal in season 2 that the point of westworld was to gather info on its guests.

Sooo......why would that even be necessary if they already know everything and everyone's life is already planned out for them?

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