Westworld HBO series

[abake]

Yeah, just finished watching the last two episodes (4 & 5 I think), and this show is really losing me.
Actually, I think they lost themselves...
As somebody said, it feels like a completely different show from Season 1 and 2.
I get it that they needed to evolve the idea, they just couldn't stay in the park(s) for another season, but maybe that's just it: tell your story and be done, not everything needs to go on for ever.
There's some really interesting ideas, but so far they get lost in the convoluted story.
I'll watch it till the end, but I'm not too excited.

 

[BeefEaster]

IGN.com gave this newest episode a 10/10 in their weekly review saying it was "the strongest episode of Westworld to date". Either the reviewer was in an altered state when he watched this like Paul's character or the website just got a fat check from HBO.

The comment section there is hilarious.

 

[Sidewinder]

This show makes no sense.

So now they reveal there's this super computer AI that can forsee virtually every scenario and predict the future lives of nearly every human on earth. But they reveal in season 2 that the point of westworld was to gather info on its guests.

Sooo......why would that even be necessary if they already know everything and everyone's life is already planned out for them?

Well isn't that because Delos is not in control of Solomon. Surac is trying to takeover Delos behind the scenes. Delos is gathering it's own information. The brothers also created Solomon years in the past, just as Delos had created Westworld years in the past. They are competing against eachother in gathering the intel.

I don't really have an issue on where the show is going, but they haven't really shown how Delores was aware of what was going on in the outside world. Did she hack into it once she had left WW inside a copy of Charlotte Hale? At first it seems she wants to bring down human society, but this season is showing she is freeing them from their own prisons they didn't even know they were in.
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[e30ernest]

This show makes no sense.

So now they reveal there's this super computer AI that can forsee virtually every scenario and predict the future lives of nearly every human on earth. But they reveal in season 2 that the point of westworld was to gather info on its guests.

Sooo......why would that even be necessary if they already know everything and everyone's life is already planned out for them?

The AI was revealed several episodes back, and they do not have all the information. This is part of the reason why they are trying to purchase Delos (Hale was trying to sell them this additional information) in order to complete their AI's model. This episode showed how that AI was dealing with the gaps in information (the people it cannot predict).

Well isn't that because Delos is not in control of Solomon. Surac is trying to takeover Delos behind the scenes. Delos is gathering it's own information. The brothers also created Solomon years in the past, just as Delos had created Westworld years in the past. They are competing against eachother in gathering the intel.

I don't really have an issue on where the show is going, but they haven't really shown how Delores was aware of what was going on in the outside world. Did she hack into it once she had left WW inside a copy of Charlotte Hale? At first it seems she wants to bring down human society, but this season is showing she is freeing them from their own prisons they didn't even know they were in.
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I wonder if Dempsey or any one in their company had visited (and therefore scanned) WW before. If so, Dolores would have gotten that information at the end of last season.

I don't have an issue with where the show is going either. Maybe it's because I just enjoy sci-fi in general. I like how this show is exploring free will vs determinism. And it's not completely irrelevant either, as we've seen how data can be used to control things like politics and purchase behaviors in the real world today.

 

[Johnny Utah]

IGN.com gave this newest episode a 10/10 in their weekly review saying it was "the strongest episode of Westworld to date". Either the reviewer was in an altered state when he watched this like Paul's character or the website just got a fat check from HBO.

The comment section there is hilarious.

Vincent Cassel is one hell of an actor and I like his character. But this season isn't fit to lick Season 1's boots.

 

[Otomofan]

I haven't wasted my time watching any of season 3 but I've been amusing myself with people's reactions to it.

This isn't Westworld. Westworld was a futuristic theme park with a western setting. The movie was fun. The first season was damn near excellent.

Whatever the hell is airing on HBO now may as well be called "Cyber Robot Wars" or something. Has there even been a single cowboy hat or six-shooter in the 3rd season?

 

[e30ernest]

I haven't wasted my time watching any of season 3 but I've been amusing myself with people's reactions to it.

This isn't Westworld. Westworld was a futuristic theme park with a western setting. The movie was fun. The first season was damn near excellent.

Whatever the hell is airing on HBO now may as well be called "Cyber Robot Wars" or something. Has there even been a single cowboy hat or six-shooter in the 3rd season?

That's a fair assessment. They went back to the park briefly and there was another park shown. Other than that, season 3 has been set mostly in (what we think is) the human world.

I'm not against that and I'm waiting to see where this goes. There are only a few more episodes left for the season too.

 

[YoNoSe]

Was the car chase on this episode supposed to be incredibly slow & dull? It was so bad I honestly feel like I'm missing something.

 

[Victοr]

I haven't moved past S03E02 yet, but Cassel's pretty much the only reason I even try to keep up.

 

[abake]

Was the car chase on this episode supposed to be incredibly slow & dull? It was so bad I honestly feel like I'm missing something.

I think it was meant to be that way, since the cars are mostly AI controlled, so they probably have some type of speed limit.

 

[YoNoSe]

Maybe.

I dunno, I hate to poop on the show but I feel like the scales keep tipping further into the aspects I find least compelling. The "mysteries" feel more forced each season. Less like discovery and more like characters are being purposely vague because they are aware of the audience. It's not even annoying, just dull.

I'll stick it out but I do miss the hats & horsies.

 

[Sidewinder]

What's gonna happen to Charlotte Delores now? She's gonna need a new body after that!

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[e30ernest]

What's gonna happen to Charlotte Delores now? She's gonna need a new body after that!

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What if she turns into the main villain after this? She seems extremely angry (rightfully so). The more the season goes, the more it seems like Dolores isn't the bad guy.

 

[Sidewinder]

What if she turns into the main villain after this? She seems extremely angry (rightfully so). The more the season goes, the more it seems like Dolores isn't the bad guy.

Absolutely. She's going to want revenge after this. Did she actually take the other Delores pearl with her when she left or did she just switch it off? Didn't see her carrying it after. Maeve is also going to be out for revenge on her after Hector's pearl was destroyed.

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[e30ernest]

Absolutely. She's going to want revenge after this. Did she actually take the other Delores pearl with her when she left or did she just switch it off? Didn't see her carrying it after. Maeve is also going to be out for revenge on her after Hector's pearl was destroyed.

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She has it I think. She wouldn't leave that there since it would compromise their plan.

I get how people who came to see "West"world be disappointed the way this is going. I never looked at it as a western though and watched it from season 1 as a sci-fi movie about robots in servitude. Season 3 felt like a natural route for the series to take for me.

 

[Sidewinder]

She has it I think. She wouldn't leave that there since it would compromise their plan.

I get how people who came to see "West"world be disappointed the way this is going. I never looked at it as a western though and watched it from season 1 as a sci-fi movie about robots in servitude. Season 3 felt like a natural route for the series to take for me.

The Westworld story is done. They can't stay with that theme forever, how boring would that be!

Right so if she did take it I'd expect to see that Delores show up in a new body at some point maybe.

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[Sweet Rabbit]

Episode 7 was wtf and cringy

 

[e30ernest]

Episode 7 was wtf and cringy

Yeah I don't know what to think hahaha.

Spoiler

Good to see them fight though. So Dolores has the upper-hand in hand-to-hand combat. It doesn't seem like she wanted to kill Maeve. So we're squarely on the "what if humans were like hosts" story.

 

[Sidewinder]

So did Delores put the bomb in Charlotte Delores's car? Seems so as she teamed with Maeve to kill her at the end.

And where exactly is the programme that Maeve's child and Teddy went into? Delores has that somewhere, but won't allow Maeve to know where it is?

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[e30ernest]

So did Delores put the bomb in Charlotte Delores's car? Seems so as she teamed with Maeve to kill her at the end.

And where exactly is the programme that Maeve's child and Teddy went into? Delores has that somewhere, but won't allow Maeve to know where it is?

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I don't think she bombed Hale's car. That was Serrac I think. Hale is angry at Dolores because Dolores was using them as disposable pawns for her gain. I don't think they showed where Dolores sent the Host's data yet right? It wouldn't surprise me if it were inside something like Rehoboam.