What if Weta release more 1/6 LOTR, Do you Still GEt 1/4 PF

[Fubeca]

Dolls?

"One of things in not like the others..."

BTW, I'm not saying that people like Andy don't have talent, and that these are dumb (well the girls ones are), I'm just not a fan. To each his own. O yeah and here is a link for some of you...

Men With Dolls

 

[aurea23]

dolls

Thats is sooo Priceless and funny.... lol

Michael

 

[Viking28]

Dolls?


"One of things in not like the others..."

BTW, I'm not saying that people like Andy don't have talent, and that these are dumb (well the girls ones are), I'm just not a fan. To each his own. O yeah and here is a link for some of you...

Men With Dolls

O man once you but it that way they all are the same!!!! Just fancy NICK NACKS that you place on shelves!!! No wonder my Grandma thinks the statues are cute.

 

[Mr Fell Beast]

Dolls?
I DON'T THINK SO.

LOL, Now take it easy young Jedi, call them for what they are, Dolls.....

I agree with the clothing on most of them, wrinkled, shrunken, faded Barbie, look/feel clothes. The asking price just does not justify the cost of these things.

I suppose I can definitely see the comparison between our PF's and a more high-art type of doll (something along the lines of the upscale Princess Diana porcelain dolls, etc). I was mainly thinking of those folks who often refer to them as 'oversized Barbie dolls', etc. Still, the comparison doesn't sit right with me. It's almost like comparing one of the 1/6 Weta statues to a happy meal toy, because both items are fully sculpted, painted, non-articulated, and made from some form of plastic.

Wow, talk about slapping yourself in the face……….Open mouth and insert foot………

I guess I just feel like the characteristics associated with the term 'doll' were surpassed lightyears ago in the PF line, nothing about them says 'doll' to me. But that's just my opinion, I can understand where the conflict comes from.

Keep trying to convince yourself as it is not working here………

Dolls?
BTW, I'm not saying that people like Andy don't have talent, and that these are dumb (well the girls ones are), I'm just not a fan. To each his own. O yeah and here is a link for some of you...

Well said, well said…………

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

People saying the PF pieces are just dolls, is like saying the Weta statues are like the knick knacks at a Hallmark store. While there may be similarities, there are also monumental differences.

 

[Mr Fell Beast]

People saying the PF pieces are just dolls, is like saying the Weta statues are like the knick knacks at a Hallmark store. While there may be similarities, there are also monumental differences.

Yes they are, it is like putting a dress on Venus de Milo and saying it is better……..
Or calling her a hunk of rock………
Knick knacks..............LOL..............

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Knick knacks..............LOL..............

Yes, that's my point.

 

[AngmarKing]

Well, I was admittedly being a little silly with that comparison, but it's not completely invalid.

As you say, it's not completely invalid, but you forgot to add that both are made in China as well

I for one look forward to seeing the richness of texture that will be brought to these figures by using the actual materials, something not available from painted poly.

 

[RoboDad]

Anyone who tries to equate this...

To this...

Needs some serious medical (or psychiatric) attention.

 

[Mr Fell Beast]

Anyone who tries to equate this...

How cute you pulled your kids DOLLS out to play with...........

 

[Dusty]

Everyone has his or her own opinion of course, but there's no reason to be rude. Please consider others' opinions before making personal attacks. Just because someone likes the Premium Formats better than the statues (or vice versa) doesn't mean that you have to personally attack their opinions and make fun of them. Honestly, it's like comparing apples and oranges. They are both works of art. Some people think costuming is a very high art form - as such, these costumes are going to be ridiculously cool. Some people place greater weight on fully sculpted pieces - as such, the polystone line-up delivers.

That being said, having SEEN some of the beginning prototypes of the PF LOTR line, I can honestly say that, in my OPINION, I infinitely prefer the PF line over the poly-only line. There's life and movement and texture in them that just doesn't exist in some of the polystone line-up. They really bring the movie characters to life. Not to diss the poly because I love the 'bad guy' line-up as well as the helms and the environments. I just think that the textures and likenesses are awesome in the PF! Those of you who are excited by the news will not be disappointed.

And by the way, Andy is right when he says that the Premium Formats take a LOT more manpower and work to get right. With the poly, you've got maybe one or two sculptors, a painter and a mold-maker. Reproducing those in mass quantity is a MUCH simpler process.

With the PF's you've got the sculptor (sometimes there are multiple sculptors - one for the likeness/body, one for the base, and one for any weapons/accessories/armor), the painter, the mold-maker, the machiner (for re-creating the weapons and accessories), and the costumer (again, sometimes more than one) - who must find the EXACT right materials and colors for each piece - PLUS you've got to find a very good way to replicate each of those things - with quality - thousands of times for the production pieces. Perhaps we should do an in-depth report of how each PF piece is made to welcome you all into the world!

Ultimately, like I said, they are apples and oranges. Both works of art in their own rights. So, can we please agree on at least that?

 

[The Josh]

I'm very excited because the LOTR line is alive again and that SS is apart of it. Both are awesome and I know I will warm and probably break to getting many of the PF figures.

 

[Fritz]

Don't worry, once these start being release, Mr. Fell Beast will magically get a PF Sideshow "Doll" from his wife as a gift and then they'll be the greatest things ever. It's not like that's never happened before.

 

[The Josh]

 

[Mr Fell Beast]

Don't worry, once these start being release, Mr. Fell Beast will magically get a PF Sideshow "Doll" from his wife as a gift and then they'll be the greatest things ever. It's not like that's never happened before.

Not on your lifetime....................Time to move on to other things, SS is trying ever so cleverly squeeze the collector dry to the bone with these "Dolls".......

Funny on how it is the SS folks trying to "sell" these "dolls....!!

 

[Dusty]

Funny on how it is the SS folks trying to "sell" these "dolls....!!

I'm sorry, what? These PF's would sell with or without our comments on this board - seriously, the quality and craftmanship will 100% speak for themselves, as you shall see when the first is previewed. We just like to discuss and inform, same as all the Freaks

 

[gabberjawa]

I think the stigma comes from the fact that classically, artistic sculptures are fully sculpted. A solid form. And I do think myself that this is a form of art at the highest level. Taking a block of hard marble and ending up with something that can mimic the softeness of skin or the delicate folds of cloth is a source of constant amazement. The folds in the marble 'fabric' of Michelangelo's Pieta still astound me. Therefore 'solid sculptures' such as the Weta pieces relate more to this than the PF's, which as shown in this thread, people associate with a certain 'doll' quality due to the use of cloth and other materials.


I basically look at the PF's as statues(more or less) outfitted in cloth. They are missing one key factor I associate with "dolls", which is poseability (and the awful looking joints that come with them). I think the premium format works to stunning effect(Vader) in some cases and not so much in others, if I must be honest. Still, I look forward to what Sideshow will have in store- I'm expecting good stuff. With LOTR though, the costumes will be more elaborate than ever. (compare leia's plain white robes to say, galadriel's) I hope Greg asked for a raise

 

[Viking28]

Not on your lifetime....................Time to move on to other things, SS is trying ever so cleverly squeeze the collector dry to the bone with these "Dolls".......

Funny on how it is the SS folks trying to "sell" these "dolls....!!

BHAAHA! Actually SS is just giving some fans what they have been asking for which is seeing the LOTR in the PF format. I cannot wait to see these and see what everyone thinks then after seeing one.
Heck you might even own a SIDESHOW LOTR piece now hmmmm Boromir and the No admitance Bookends by Mr.Oluf W. Hartvigson a Sideshow artisit.

 

[TheWitchKing]

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[TheWitchKing]

Scotty the Body!