Why Firefly Was Cancelled

[ShadowX81]

The backwater planets were exactly that. Backwater. That's where they spent the majority of their time because they were outlaws. There were times during the series that they needed to visit core planets, and those places were much more sci-fi.

I don't think the war between the Independents and the Alliance was in the earliest history of the post-Earth settlements. It was probably quite some time after. The core planets would have been mostly developed by the time of the Browncoats. Even in the first episode, the Alliance fighter jets are pretty advanced, and the Alliance cruiser that interupts their salvage job is gigantic.

What about Mr. Universe's moon? It doesn't get more backwater than that, but at the same time it doesn't get more cliche sci-fi.

 

[devilof76]

It's inconceivable that a single wealthy individual could establish that kind of outpost for himself?

Most of these planets aren't being settled by the idle rich.

And what do you mean cliche? Not one of the characters on that ship embodied a sterotype I've ever seen.

 

[ShadowX81]

I meant how the whole design and feel of the moon was very cliche.

All of the metal hallways and docking bays that don't really seem to lead anywhere or serve a purpose. All of the random high tech crates lying around. The giant master console in the center of a giant room with a long drop on all sides into important looking energy stuff. All of it a staple of hundreds of sci-fi films before it.

 

[devilof76]

The originality of Firefly wasn't its sci-fi elements, but the series was the first in a very long time to achieve the 'lived in' universe effect that you could only really find first Star Wars or Blade Runner, before that.

 

[ShadowX81]

Exactly, and none of those things felt lived in. They felt more like they existed becuase the script needed some cool sci-fi environment for them to fight in. To be honest, half of the stuff in Star Wars never felt lived in to me either for that very reason.

At the very least they did not feel at all like the tv show, which was very jarring.

But to be honest, the fact that the asain crap was increased 10x bothered me more.

 

[devilof76]

I'm sorry, I can't see where you're coming from at all. The first Star Wars movies and Blade Runner were completely lived in. Are you saying you think Serenity felt like Star Trek (the epitome of the contrived sci-fi set, not including Wrath of Khan)?

I don't get the Asian bit either. Nothing about the difference between the show and movie was jarring to me, but that may be because I saw the movie first. I don't know.

 

[ShadowX81]

Tattoine and the smaller planets felt lived in to me, but its when you get up to the imperial stuff that I lost that feeling. Everything was too astronomically big and sterile (like the death star). Nothing in any imperial ship showed any signs of humanity, let alone being lived in. Maybe that was the intention, but if Geroge Lucas wanted the world to feel lived in then that would have had to include the empire as well.

And I really don't understand how you couldnt notice a difference between the asain stuff in the tv show and movie. In the tv show it was very subtle, but in the movie the asain influence was everywhere; to the point where it was more dominant than the western one. It influened everything from the set design, to the environment, the music, and even some of the cinematography seemed to take influence from eastern animation. While the tv show was clearly a space western, the movie seemed more like anime.

 

[darthviper107]

To be honest, I think there wasn't enough Asian influence in either of them. For a society that's supposed to be like China and the U.S. mixed together, there's an awful lack of asians around. You might see a few here and there, but the vast majority of people are all american type people.

It did miss having a more western sound the the score, like the TV show, but I still enjoy it

 

[BuffyGirl]

The Asian influence was there for a purpose. Mandarine Chinese is the number one most spoken language.

America and China work together throughout the colonisation process, and their cultures gradually blend at many levels. Over time, American and Chinese culture blend together to the point that English and Mandarin even become integrated languages.

Joss Whedon explained that this was his contextual justification for including Chinese dialogue in the series.

 

[ShadowX81]

Yea I know that, but what im saying is that while it was subtle on the tv show, it dominated almost all aspects of the movie.

 

[Batty]

I'm just glad Joss gave us Christina Hendricks.

 

[BuffyGirl]

I'm just glad Joss gave us Christina Hendricks.

Love her. I wish she would come to a con.

 

[Anzik]

****ilicious.

 

[Colossus]

I'm just glad Joss gave us Christina Hendricks.

YUMMY!

 

[CelticPredator]

^ She's a crazy biotch.

 

[Rorschach]

prefer jewel staite.

 

[ShadowX81]

Im more into Morena Baccarin.

 

[BuffyGirl]

prefer jewel staite.

Jewel is awesome! My grail is Gina, then Adam, then Jewel. Nathan is not even on that grid cause he's a big deal now. After Jewel, Morena.

 

[Colossus]

The Asian influence was there for a purpose. Mandarine Chinese is the number one most spoken language.

America and China work together throughout the colonisation process, and their cultures gradually blend at many levels. Over time, American and Chinese culture blend together to the point that English and Mandarin even become integrated languages.

Joss Whedon explained that this was his contextual justification for including Chinese dialogue in the series.

I have a question, if you where to watch Firefly in Chinese, the main dialog would be spoken in Chinese and the parts that are spoken on the original in Mandarin be now spoken in English? Well Christina or anyone

 

[Dr.FeelGood]

Just contemplating that question makes my head hurt...