Will ever get another great franchise?

[Something Sexy]

i think Twilight is shaping into a fine franchise.

I couldn't stand that movie, the writing was terrible, the acting was terrible. I never read the book but from what I heard they just rushed the whole story.

 

[The Craw]

I couldn't stand that movie, the writing was terrible, the acting was terrible. I never read the book but from what I heard they just rushed the whole story.

i've never seen it or read it.

 

[plasmid303]

Okay so we need to land on mars to stimulate sci-fi.

What does horror need? The 70's and 80's were a time of infamous serial killers: Manson, Gacy, Bundy ect....

Maybe we are just laking in serial killers?

Maybe i am just getting old and crabby

But nothing feels fresh anymore.

Arguably there hasn't been many truly fresh ideas since the early 1900's, a lot of the stuff from the final third of that century were borrowed ideas and amalgamated concepts. The grand space opera, robots with evil intentions, a threat from outer space, an unknown killer just around the block, etc etc.

I remember watching Hitchcock's Psycho on VHS when I was a wee kid and later remembering it after seeing Halloween Friday the 13th, the odd Manson movie here and there or even Kubrick's The Shining.

Star Wars isn't exactly a completely original idea. Lucas borrowed stuff from old sci-fi serials from the 50's and even from some foreign films like Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress.

Terminator and Robocop possess ideas that can be found in the film Metropolis (from 1926!).

The Alien franchise may not exist if it weren't for 2001: A Space Oddysey.

 

[Something Sexy]

What about Pitch Black and the Chronicles of Riddick?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Borne was good, but again he came from a book, so not exactly original.

I liked the first and third fine. But I didn't come out of the theater totally pumped. I want something inspiring, like when I saw Raiders or Die Hard or Matrix.

 

[Kratos]

Yea we got a great new Franchise
Transformers....More than meets the Eyes

 

[King Darkness]

Even if you are a fan of Twilight, which I am not, its nothing iconic and it came from a book, again nothing orginal.

And in 20 years no one is gonna give a care about. No impacting characters like Myers, Indy, Voorhees, Rambo, Skywalker.

 

[DarkArtist81]

I don't really care if the idea borrows from myth or older stories, as long as it isn't a complete rip off and brings something new to the table. Be it character, or drama, or effects... just something to bring some real life to cinema.

 

[King Darkness]

Arguably there hasn't been many truly fresh ideas since the early 1900's, a lot of the stuff from the final third of that century were borrowed ideas and amalgamated concepts. The grand space opera, robots with evil intentions, a threat from outer space, an unknown killer just around the block, etc etc.

I remember watching Hitchcock's Psycho on VHS when I was a wee kid and later remembering it after seeing Halloween Friday the 13th, the odd Manson movie here and there or even Kubrick's The Shining.

Star Wars isn't exactly a completely original idea. Lucas borrowed stuff from old sci-fi serials from the 50's and even from some foreign films like Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress.

Terminator and Robocop possess ideas that can be found in the film Metropolis (from 1926!).

The Alien franchise may not exist if it weren't for 2001: A Space Oddysey.

True, looking at anything in that light nothing is original, nothing. Everything is borrowed from something.

But you can take a century old idea and make it fresh, something that just doesnt happen anymore.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Arguably there hasn't been many truly fresh ideas since the early 1900's, a lot of the stuff from the final third of that century were borrowed ideas and amalgamated concepts. The grand space opera, robots with evil intentions, a threat from outer space, an unknown killer just around the block, etc etc.

I remember watching Hitchcock's Psycho on VHS when I was a wee kid and later remembering it after seeing Halloween Friday the 13th, the odd Manson movie here and there or even Kubrick's The Shining.

Star Wars isn't exactly a completely original idea. Lucas borrowed stuff from old sci-fi serials from the 50's and even from some foreign films like Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress.

Terminator and Robocop possess ideas that can be found in the film Metropolis (from 1926!).

The Alien franchise may not exist if it weren't for 2001: A Space Oddysey.

That can be said of almost anything. Rarely is something wholy original. The point is to reinvent it so if feels fresh.

Nowadays, the whole marketing machine is geared for 'labels' -- recognizability -- so the idea to reinvent the old into something original is mute. They (the studios) want to advertise the reboot or remake or whatever. They want you to know where the idea is from.

 

[Kratos]

Even if you are a fan of Twilight, which I am not, its nothing iconic and it came from a book, again nothing orginal.

And in 20 years no one is gonna give a care about. No impacting characters like Myers, Indy, Voorhees, Rambo, Skywalker.

Well Said Twilight is ^^^^

 

[KBA]

I don't really care if the idea borrows from myth or older stories, as long as it isn't a complete rip off and brings something new to the table.

Technically all stories are derived from the same tale: "The Hero's Journey" if you familiar with Joseph Cambell. Read The Hero with a Thousand Faces of his. Fantastic.

 

[Patient Zero]

This thread is off topic, I thought it was about TERMINATO!

 

[King Darkness]

Lets look at horror of the 80s for a second, the era of the modern 'slasher'. The concept played out over and over in TCM, Halloween, Ft13th, NoES, but the characters were orginal and inspired.

An old idea can be made fresh and new.

 

[DarkArtist81]

Technically all stories are derived from the same tale: "The Hero's Journey" if you familiar with Joseph Cambell. Read The Hero with a Thousand Faces of his. Fantastic.

Yep... You are very correct. Almost all tales throughout history have an element of that tale. It's very universal, and very human. As a people, we respond to specific things... and those things tend to be recycled over the generations.

I don't mind that at all, I'm just looking forward to the next incarnation.

 

[Wor-Gar]

An old idea can be made fresh and new.

Truth in its simplist form.

But with a 'reboot' mentality, the idea of making it fresh isn't what's important right now.

 

[KBA]

It's very universal, and very human. As a people, we respond to specific things... and those things tend to be recycled over the generations.

I really think that's why Pixar movies are always consistently excellent. That studio always seems to reinvent The Hero's Journey without straying too far from its concept. Their writers and directors they have are worth their brain power in gold. And the studio doesn't milk franchises either. They're always making something great, and something new.

Cannot wait for Up.

 

[King Darkness]

So true. I wish pixar made horror movies.

 

[plasmid303]

King Darkness, I'm going to answer the question proposed in your thread title:

Yes.

 

[plasmid303]

To follow up on my previous post, I will ask a question myself. Are people here expecting the next great franchise, or just the next great film? They're different things entirely.