Will Hot Toys ever lose their value?
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thenammagazine
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Lejuan
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Maybe its a generation thing. In our generation, it was all about toys. Star wars, shogun warriors, godaikin, transformers... you name it, as kids/teens we played with it. Back then, toys were the sh$t. A lot of these toy makers, like hot toys, bandai soul of chogokin, etc are making these high end collectibles that are specifically targeting our generation/age group.
If you look at teens today, they're not playing with toys like we use to. All they care about are internet, facebook, twitter, ps3, iphone, etc... teens today could give two sh$ts about toys.
I was at a toy/war soldier collectibles show a few years back. All that were on display at this show were old lead painted toy soldier figures that were probably popular during the 50s and 60s. Me and my friends were the youngest ones there at this show. Everyone else was around my dad's age. Some of these lead/metal painted war figures were fetching in the thousands of dollars. Me personally, I wouldn't pay more than 50 bucks for those figures. I just couldn't relate to these lead toy soldier figures because I didn't grow up with them. I think it's sad but true: When these older collectors who grew up with these metal toy soldier figures pass on, their hobbies will go with them. Nobody is going to care or want to collect the things that they grew up with in the 50s and 60s. Thus, that $1000 lead painted soldier will probably drop in value dramatically once that generation passes on. The only thing driving the demand for those toy lead soldiers are those collectors who grew up in the generation of the 50s and 60s.
Would I pay hundreds of dollars for a vintage transformers robot that I grew up with in the eighties? Maybe. You ask a teenager today if they would pay hundreds of dollars for a G1 Transformer blue streak or a G1 gun megatron, and they would laugh at you and instead spend that money on a ps3 or new computer or iphone.
Hot Toys and other toy collectibles are high in price because our generation will pay these crazy prices for them. The next generation won't. When our days on this earth are over, our toys will go with us. The next generation won't give a dam about the toys we collected, and thus their values will all eventually go down. Toys just aren't popular anymore like they were when we were kids/teens. Look at kay-bee toy store, and Toys R us. They are struggling to stay afloat.
In conclusion, my take is enjoy your collectibles now while you're alive. Pass your passion for toys on to your kids/teens so that toy collecting will never die, because if you don't and when you pass, all your toy collectibles will probably be sold by your children at a garage sale.
If you look at teens today, they're not playing with toys like we use to. All they care about are internet, facebook, twitter, ps3, iphone, etc... teens today could give two sh$ts about toys.
I was at a toy/war soldier collectibles show a few years back. All that were on display at this show were old lead painted toy soldier figures that were probably popular during the 50s and 60s. Me and my friends were the youngest ones there at this show. Everyone else was around my dad's age. Some of these lead/metal painted war figures were fetching in the thousands of dollars. Me personally, I wouldn't pay more than 50 bucks for those figures. I just couldn't relate to these lead toy soldier figures because I didn't grow up with them. I think it's sad but true: When these older collectors who grew up with these metal toy soldier figures pass on, their hobbies will go with them. Nobody is going to care or want to collect the things that they grew up with in the 50s and 60s. Thus, that $1000 lead painted soldier will probably drop in value dramatically once that generation passes on. The only thing driving the demand for those toy lead soldiers are those collectors who grew up in the generation of the 50s and 60s.
Would I pay hundreds of dollars for a vintage transformers robot that I grew up with in the eighties? Maybe. You ask a teenager today if they would pay hundreds of dollars for a G1 Transformer blue streak or a G1 gun megatron, and they would laugh at you and instead spend that money on a ps3 or new computer or iphone.
Hot Toys and other toy collectibles are high in price because our generation will pay these crazy prices for them. The next generation won't. When our days on this earth are over, our toys will go with us. The next generation won't give a dam about the toys we collected, and thus their values will all eventually go down. Toys just aren't popular anymore like they were when we were kids/teens. Look at kay-bee toy store, and Toys R us. They are struggling to stay afloat.
In conclusion, my take is enjoy your collectibles now while you're alive. Pass your passion for toys on to your kids/teens so that toy collecting will never die, because if you don't and when you pass, all your toy collectibles will probably be sold by your children at a garage sale.
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thenammagazine
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I dunno. My kids love playing with their toys. Hell, they love getting into daddy's "toys" despite having to pay the consequences time and again. 
I guess your blanket generalization would better suit parents who don't give a damn about their kids and let them zombie-out in media venues like tv, videogames, texting, etc., rather than actually have to interact with them.
I guess your blanket generalization would better suit parents who don't give a damn about their kids and let them zombie-out in media venues like tv, videogames, texting, etc., rather than actually have to interact with them.
Darth Madden
You Are A Tooooooy!!!
Good post Work... I think I have to agree with you on that.
Kamandi
Super Freak
>> "...If you look at kids today, they're not playing with toys like we use to..."
I have two 7 year old girls. They keep writing birthday lists, all toys.
Here's one B-day list I have in my wallet:
*Barbie Cut'n Style princess
*Barbie A Mermaid's Tail Doll
*Zhu Zhu babies
*Zhu Zhu Kingdom
*Zhu Zhu Beauty Salon
*Bend a Glows
*Happy Nappers
*Earth's Mightiest Heros Action Figures
I have two 7 year old girls. They keep writing birthday lists, all toys.
Here's one B-day list I have in my wallet:
*Barbie Cut'n Style princess
*Barbie A Mermaid's Tail Doll
*Zhu Zhu babies
*Zhu Zhu Kingdom
*Zhu Zhu Beauty Salon
*Bend a Glows
*Happy Nappers
*Earth's Mightiest Heros Action Figures
I dunno. My kids love playing with their toys. Hell, they love getting into daddy's "toys" despite having to pay the consequences time and again.
I guess your blanket generalization would better suit parents who don't give a damn about their kids and let them zombie-out in media venues like tv, videogames, texting, etc., rather than actually have to interact with them.
I'm glad your sharing your passion with your kids. Hopefully they will carry that passion to their kids.
My statement maybe slightly blanket, but yours is too. Just because your kids are into videogames and tv doesn't mean that your a bad parent and don't interact with your kids. But I guess one blanket statement deserves another
I think that's awesome. Now let's hope they carry on this toy list well into their 20s, 30s, 40s and on up like us.
thenammagazine
Super Freak
My statement maybe slightly blanket, but yours is too. Just because your kids are into videogames and tv doesn't mean that your a bad parent and don't interact with your kids. But I guess one blanket statement deserves another
I hear ya. But that's not what I meant. My kids have their favorite tv shows, love videogames, etc., but I don't ignore them and I interact with them on the daily basis on a regular basis. More often than not it seems like A LOT of parents nowadays are just too busy and self absorbed to deal with their kids.
not everyone will always agree with my posts, but it's nice to hear that some people do-Thanks Darth Madden, Also- I'll try and keep them shorter next time.
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Very true- with divorce rates as high as they are and especially now the way our economy is, kids and parents have it pretty tough in today's day and age.
El Skutto
Super Freak
Well said, Work. I agree completely.
Well said, Work. I agree completely.
Thanks buddy, It's really sad and a shame that more people/kids don't appreciate toys and toy collecting like we do here at sideshow freaks. To me, toys are like little works of art. Infact, I consider some hot toys figures and other toys to be as good as museam quality type peices-They should be considered as art collectibles instead of toy collectibles.
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You could fool me. Every kid I know has a closet full of toys. It's stuff they're interested in, that I don't hardly know about anymore. In time they'll probably look for the really nice version of stuff they care about. Maybe a Dora the Explorer Hot Toys line someday?
You could fool me. Every kid I know has a closet full of toys. It's stuff they're interested in, that I don't hardly know about anymore. In time they'll probably look for the really nice version of stuff they care about. Maybe a Dora the Explorer Hot Toys line someday?
You can buck this trend by forcing them to watch old transformers cartoons, or predator movies, or star wars etc... don't give up hope!!! you can still brain-wash them into the things we are interested in!
I guess I should clarify. maybe I didn't mean kids- as I know all kids play with toys; but, instead teenagers on up. I guess most kids play with toys, but it's when they get into their teens that they start to lose interest in toy collecting. I still don't understand why I never grew out of it. I guess I'll always be a kid at heart.
You can buck this trend by forcing them to watch old transformers cartoons, or predator movies, or star wars etc... don't give up hope!!! you can still brain-wash them into the things we are interested in!
I guess I should clarify. maybe I didn't mean kids- as I know all kids play with toys; but, instead teenagers on up. I guess most kids play with toys, but it's when they get into their teens that they start to lose interest in toy collecting. I still don't understand why I never grew out of it. I guess I'll always be a kid at heart.
Honestly, by the time I was about to start driving a car, my toys went in the attic. It wasn't until I hit my late twenties that I dug them out and looked at them again, not to play, but to admire. That's what brought me here. I think there's a natural hiatus from all things toy for most people. But, I bet they all come around at least for nostalgia at some point. Some of us turn that nostalgia into a new hobby.
Honestly, by the time I was about to start driving a car, my toys went in the attic. It wasn't until I hit my late twenties that I dug them out and looked at them again, not to play, but to admire. That's what brought me here. I think there's a natural hiatus from all things toy for most people. But, I bet they all come around at least for nostalgia at some point. Some of us turn that nostalgia into a new hobby.
Good point. Looking back, I also set my toys aside when I started to drive and then went off to college. I actually had no time for toys. It was either hanging out with friends, dating ,studying for a test, or homework. It wasn't until after college that the nostalgia bug got me back into toy...uh I mean art collecting.
thenammagazine
Super Freak
Honestly, by the time I was about to start driving a car, my toys went in the attic. It wasn't until I hit my late twenties that I dug them out and looked at them again, not to play, but to admire. That's what brought me here. I think there's a natural hiatus from all things toy for most people. But, I bet they all come around at least for nostalgia at some point. Some of us turn that nostalgia into a new hobby.
Psh! I used the car to drive me to the stores and local CS's to buy more toys. I also never hid the hobby/habit from the women I dated either. And contrary to what some might think, they never had any issues with it either.
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