Witcher 4

[JorjeCroft]

I also agree with this, I don't think the game is coming any time soon, 2027 at the absolute earliest, 2028 or 2029 if we're being realistic.

I think it will be released earlier but definitely not next year. If I win Limtoys makes Geralt. If I lose, I'll buy 5 more Arthurs. Deal


Interesting when Witcher I remake comes, before or after part IV, they are too silent about that one.

 

[chrisstbh]

I'm also a fan of the theory that the school of the Lynx has been founded by Ciri herself and that the abandoned Kaer Morhen has become a school for witchers again, but for her to undergo through the mutations, the trials, and create her own school it must mean something seriously wrong is happening in the world.

Adamczyk did an amazing job on Cyberpunk 2077 and the music in the trailer sounded just as good, I also heard Marcin Przybyłowicz and Percival Schuttenbach will be involved but I don't know if it's true, either way the soundtrack will be a banger!

I definitely get the concerns regarding the whole DEI thing (we all must've seen the clown show going on at Jaguar by now) but I relate more to your post, the whole anti woke movement has just gotten ridiculous at this point, literally anything with a woman in it is woke now. The thing is, the grifters complaining about wokeness in games don't even admit when they're wrong.

There was so much garbage surrounding Silent Hill 2 remake and Indiana Jones and The Great Circle and after those games released and proved themselves to be quality pieces of entertainment that respect and understand the source material, the grifters just shrugged it under the rug and moved on to different targets. I guarantee these people will keep bitching about Ciri and this game until it releases and if it turns out to be an amazing addition to the franchise they'll just disingenuously say it's mediocre or alright and keep moving the goal post.

Regarding CDPR, I'm still excited for their future stuff and Witcher IV, they released a brilliantly written, quality expansion last year for Cyberpunk, so even with all the "DEI hires" in there it's clear they're still producing quality narratives as of last year. The only point of contention I have is Unreal Engine 5, it makes every game a stuttery mess but almost every developer is switching over to it because it's easier to work with and eliminates the costs of maintaining an in-house engine. It also makes it so every game looks the same which is a shame, it seems like the only great proprietary engines left in the industry are Rockstar's Rage engine, Naughty Dog's engine, Decima and the Frostbite engine.

DEI isn’t the problem though, bad writing and implementation is the problem.

I also agree with this, I don't think the game is coming any time soon, 2027 at the absolute earliest, 2028 or 2029 if we're being realistic.

Yep. This is from 2 years ago.

 

[R_R_X]

I think it will be released earlier but definitely not next year. If I win Limtoys makes Geralt. If I lose, I'll buy 5 more Arthurs. Deal
Interesting when Witcher I remake comes, before or after part IV, they are too silent about that one.

 

[JorjeCroft]

DEI isn’t the problem though, bad writing and implementation is the problem.


Yep. This is from 2 years ago.

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PS6 launch title?

 

[R_R_X]

DEI isn’t the problem though, bad writing and implementation is the problem.

Agreed. The new Indy game is a great example of how DEI and whatever doesn't affect a game when you have talented people that are passionate about the project working on it, no matter their sexuality or political beliefs.

Yep. This is from 2 years ago.

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I mean this isn't anything new really, RDR2 took 8 years to develop, GTA VI is taking even longer, Cyberpunk was in pre-production and went through a bunch of soft reboots for almost a decade and only entered actual development a few years before it was forced to release. Naughty Dog has been working on their new IP since 2020, after they released TLOU 2 but we still don't have a release date or even know that much about the game. Kojima has been working on Death Stranding 2 for just as long. It's going to get harder and harder when it comes to the development of these games, which means longer waits for us. As long as they deliver quality experiences I don't mind waiting, quality over quantity and all that.

 

[chrisstbh]

Agreed. The new Indy game is a great example of how DEI and whatever doesn't affect a game when you have talented people that are passionate about the project working on it, no matter their sexuality or political beliefs.

And one of the coolest and most beloved characters in Final Fantasy XVI was a gay man because he was a well written character.

I mean this isn't anything new really, RDR2 took 8 years to develop, GTA VI is taking even longer, Cyberpunk was in pre-production and went through a bunch of soft reboots for almost a decade and only entered actual development a few years before it was forced to release. Naughty Dog has been working on their new IP since 2020, after they released TLOU 2 but we still don't have a release date or even know that much about the game. Kojima has been working on Death Stranding 2 for just as long. It's going to get harder and harder when it comes to the development of these games, which means longer waits for us. As long as they deliver quality experiences I don't mind waiting, quality over quantity and all that.

I don't mind waiting when the games are worth it but when someone points out that Skyrim was 13 years ago I start to freak out a litte .

 

[Uravgcollector]

Agreed. The new Indy game is a great example of how DEI and whatever doesn't affect a game when you have talented people that are passionate about the project working on it, no matter their sexuality or political beliefs.

I mean this isn't anything new really, RDR2 took 8 years to develop, GTA VI is taking even longer, Cyberpunk was in pre-production and went through a bunch of soft reboots for almost a decade and only entered actual development a few years before it was forced to release. Naughty Dog has been working on their new IP since 2020, after they released TLOU 2 but we still don't have a release date or even know that much about the game. Kojima has been working on Death Stranding 2 for just as long. It's going to get harder and harder when it comes to the development of these games, which means longer waits for us. As long as they deliver quality experiences I don't mind waiting, quality over quantity and all that.

This is something I don't really mind either. Waiting for new games has never been an issue for me because the backlog keeps getting bigger and bigger. Judging by the sheer size and scale of these games, it's anything but surprising.

 

[higgins1989]

I think the issue is how the games and film now are leaning towards that woke bs, and so anything that has a female character regardless if it makes sense or is good will get dragged through the mud. Witcher 4 although announced years ago is being shown at the point when "strong female characters" are no longer appieling to people. I feel those who complain and see it that way are ruining it for themselves because this is hopefully not one of those cases. Ciri isn't a random strong female character she's been there from the start we've seen her grow and struggle, It's just the story is now her POV. I feel this game is getting the same traction as the Furiosa movie did. It was a good movie but people assumed it was another girl boss movie and woke when it actually wasn't though I understand in that situation people just wanted Mad Max and didn't care for her character as much. This though makes sense as it's a character we know well and have played as before. Hopefully gameplay and story stay good and people chill out once it's done.

Sigh...

Since when did "strong" female characters mean something is "woke". The word itself and the discourse around it are a ******* joke.

Nobody had **** to say when Leia, Ripley, Sarah Connor, Laurie Strode and practically every horror movie final girl since the 1970's were kicking ass.

Now I am not ignorant to why some don't like a "Mary Sue" like Rey, a powerful character who is powerful only because the writers deemed they should be, who earned nothing and comes out on top every time no matter the obstacle. That is annoying for male and female characters alike. That however is not Ciri, Ciri has lost and suffered plenty and has had to fight tooth and nail for survival and freedom.

 

[Dave_W]

LOL!

 

[dominishin]

Man has to be joking... but it's twitter. They don't even hide it they just women to be porn stars.

 

[chrisstbh]

LOL!

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[Uravgcollector]

LOL!

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Okay; maybe some of these people are p*rn addicts because good Lord.

 

[Lokki]

The people who are calling the render of Ciri "ugly" are either echoing the sentiment of the day for the "Anti Woke" grifters - or, they are looking for that "fantasy" female trope - where they are simply in the story to offer "eye candy". Everyone is celebrating Stellar Blade for offering exactly that product.....oh, and the great game play - of course.

While I love looking at beautiful women, I want somewhat of a balance in my fantasy games - I don't want the female lead to look like a Blue Haired, rough as f*ck - feminist, man hating activist.....but I also don't want the blonde bimbo, fashion model, who lacks any kind of muscle, and thinks a bikini will effectively stop arrows and deflect sword strikes.

What CDPR have done with Ciri is masterful, in my opinion - they've reached an EXCELLENT balance between beauty and rugged survivalist. I find the character render of Ciri gritty, and more importantly, realistic. It's exactly how I would expect a seasoned warrior of the female gender to look, and act. 100% more realistic than the bimbo they have in Stellar Blade.

If this is "woke" - then sign me up. I find characters like Red Sonja ridiculous and laughable - I can't take the concept seriously - and I would have thought significantly less of CDPR if they had portrayed Ciri in a similar way.