Wolverine Origins (Spoilers/Discussion)

[jye4ever]

Like anything, you should buy the dvd if you like the movie, not if other people like it.

True That....I agree

I own what I like, not what someone else likes...

However, I do enjoy reading other reviews from different walks of life....I sometime learn from others and get introduced to something that I might've missed on my own.

No matter if a million people told me to not see PWZ, I still would've went but knowing that I might be a million and 1 who hated it....sometimes a million people can't be wrong but in the case of PWZ, for me personally....I liked it so in my eyes they were wrong but I also comprehend where the negative reviews were stemming from. Yes it was corny, low budget cheese, but for me it was awesome corny, low budget cheese.

Again, it's nice to have our own tastes but it's also a gift to be able to listen to observations and advise from others.

I never quite comprehend why most movie review blogs or threads turn so negative.....

 

[CelticPredator]

The question remains then..

For the Marvel fans or fans of action movies in general, Is it good enough to own and have within our movie collections once its out on DVD or Blu-ray?

Where does it fit in quality when compared to the following movies:

X3
Spiderman 3
Punisher:Warzone
Punisher 2004
Ghost Rider
Daredevil
Elektra
Blade 3

and also Iron Man

Well, aside from Iron Man and PWZ ( to a degree) all those films you mentioned are horrible. And Wolvie fits right in with it.

But the action is sweet. But not sweet enough to make up for the lack of story/characterazation. (yes I spelled it like that on purpose.)

 

[prefused]

Well, aside from Iron Man and PWZ ( to a degree) all those films you mentioned are horrible. And Wolvie fits right in with it.

But the action is sweet. But not sweet enough to make up for the lack of story/characterazation. (yes I spelled it like that on purpose.)

it was just another X-Men movie to me. those are all about the same quality.

 

[CelticPredator]

I disagree. X-2 IMO was fantastic.

 

[jye4ever]

I disagree. X-2 IMO was fantastic.

I have to agree with Celtic, not all the X-Men movies were of the same cut of meat.

X2 was the best one but I have grown to appreciate # 1 a little bit more.

 

[CelticPredator]

I've always liked 1. But 2 was just epic. More so then X-3.

 

[krec9]

what do you care? you didn't make the movie.
i'm glad everyone downloaded it. if nothing else, it saved them from disappointment and blowing $$.
read for yourself, it's a lousy movie and maybe FOX will now learn to quit making them.

i agree the movie was bad

 

[jye4ever]

i agree the movie was bad

For me i'll reserve the term "Bad Movie" for the Norbit's of this world or those dozens upon dozens of spoof movies like disaster movie and scary movie 10 and the list can go on and on.

I'm not saying this was a masterpiece but I wouldn't label it as a bad movie.

For me it was an entertaining action movie and a decent enough Marvel movie, one that I would definately own.

But like I mentioned before, that's what makes us all unique.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

For me i'll reserve the term "Bad Movie" for the Norbit's of this world or those dozens and dozens of spoof movies like disaster movie and scary movie 10 and the list can go on and on.

I'm not saying this was a masterpiece but I wouldn't label it as a bad movie.

For me it was an entertaining action movie and a decent enough Marvel movie, one that I would definately own.

But like I mentioned before, that's what makes us all unique.

agreed.

 

[krec9]

For me i'll reserve the term "Bad Movie" for the Norbit's of this world or those dozens and dozens of spoof movies like disaster movie and scary movie 10 and the list can go on and on.

I'm not saying this was a masterpiece but I wouldn't label it as a bad movie.

For me it was an entertaining action movie and a decent enough Marvel movie, one that I would definately own.

But like I mentioned before, that's what makes us all unique.

i just didnt like that they just didnt stick to source material
that messed the movie up for me

 

[YoNoSe]

I've always liked 1. But 2 was just epic. More so then X-3.

X2 is a classic. FOX should have had Singer signed for X3 immediately after X2 opened, if not before. Then we would have gotten another great X movie and avoided Deadbeat Superdad Returns at the same time.

 

[Buttmunch]

X2 is a classic. FOX should have had Singer signed for X3 immediately after X2 opened, if not before. Then we would have gotten another great X movie and avoided Deadbeat Superdad Returns at the same time.

Yeah, he really did ruin 2 movies by doing that.

 

[Ultimate Weapon]

Not to get off on a rant here, but frankly I'm getting pretty sick of the film/music industries crying fowl over every perceived infraction against them.

These claims have being on since the invention of every recordable medium out there, and guess what? Both the film and music industries are still around alive and well, bootlegs, mix tapes and all. Even putting out the worst excuses for movies and music won't kill of the industry. Years of lame spin-offs/sequels and corporate boy bands are testimony to that.

Am I saying their stuff should be stolen and pirated? No. But it is a reality of the digital age. Numerous people who download, still purchase. Most who only download wouldn't purchase the product anyway. Does that balance it out? No, but it does go to show that the problem isn't coming close to toppling the industry as they would have you believe.

Because of their own ridiculous practices in attempting to control what you do with the media your purchase I've lost all compassion for the industry's claims. I spend plenty of money on DVD's and at movie theaters. The fact that these "pirated" materials are out there does not deter me from forking over my cash to own/view the real thing.

That being said, I hope that Fox doesn't try to blame a poor box office for this flick on piracy. A good movie will draw a crowd regardless.

Yeah, I watched Wolverine on line (streaming - did not download) and I'll probably still see it in the theater as well, or at least Netflix it to see it finished. I wouldn't say the movie was bad, but it wasn't the best either. I was hoping for a bit more after the trailers. Mainly it seemed to sacrifice story for action and set pieces, which is to be expected to a certain degree. I had just hoped it would focus more on Wolverine than being sidetracked by numerous other mutants.

The movie should do well, and I hope it proves that piracy doesn't affect box office sales as much as industry heads like to claim it does.

 

[MANDO]

From the sounds of it this was a toal miss. Another name-dropping costumeless X-Men film. They really ought to revamp the franchise. X3 really killed it, along with several main characters.

I like Jackman's Wolverine a lot and really that's the only reason I'd go see this. Overall the X-Men casting has been pretty good but it is always obliterated by poor script choices and costuming (or lack there of).



X2 was the only one I really liked and it's mainly because the characters are more developed between it and the first one. X3 killed it all though. The Beast was good, but it ended there.

 

[Ultimate Weapon]

I wouldn't say it was a total miss, it was enjoyable enough if you like the characters and I wouldn't let opinions dissuade you from seeing it if you've been looking forward to it. It was certainly no Iron Man or Spider-Man though. It just could have used more story/character elements. Pretty solid action though. But yeah, if you're expecting X2 and looking for story and character developments, then you might be a bit disappointed.

 

[jye4ever]

I wouldn't say it was a total miss, it was enjoyable enough if you like the characters and I wouldn't let opinions dissuade you from seeing it if you've been looking forward to it. It was certainly no Iron Man or Spider-Man though. It just could have used more story/character elements. Pretty solid action though. But yeah, if you're expecting X2 and looking for story and character developments, then you might be a bit disappointed.

Well, hopefully this will help some with what you were referring to regarding story and character elements:

First, from AICN:

Now - I've been talking to John Palermo, one of the producers on the film - ever since this story broke. The word I've gotten is that the print you can see online is several months old - and is in fact the version of the film that drove FOX to spend untold millions on a couple of weeks of additional shoots. That things have been edited out and that even with that - the film now runs 20 minutes longer than that which you see online. That there was stuff they didn't like and they took aggressive and costly steps to correct that.

Part of the reason that I decided not to run reviews on AICN of WOLVERINE based on the work print was the knowledge that this is a 3-4 month old print - that had 2-3 weeks of reshoots and millions of work put into it to make it better, because they were not happy with that version. The only point in seeing that workprint is as a comparison to the finished version, to see the process in which the Producers and Director and Studio went through to try and make WOLVERINE as good as it could be.

Then a statement from 20th Century FOX:

Last night, a stolen, incomplete and early version of X-Men Origins: Wolverine was posted illegally on websites. It was without many effects and had missing scenes and temporary sound and music. We immediately contacted the appropriate legal authorities and had it removed. We forensically mark our content so we can identify sources that make it available or download it. The source of the initial leak and any subsequent postings will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law — the courts have handed down significant criminal sentences for such acts. The FBI and MPAA are also actively investigating the crime. We are encouraged by the support of fansites condemning piracy and this illegal posting and pointing out that such theft undermines the enormous efforts of the filmmakers and actors and, above all, hurts fans of the film.

 

[prefused]

We immediately contacted the appropriate legal authorities and had it removed.

apparently, the FOX legal team has accomplished the most important scientific achievement in history by successfully putting the toothpaste back in the tube.
i hope one day they can put the cat back in the bag too.

We are encouraged by the support of fansites condemning piracy and this illegal posting and pointing out that such theft undermines the enormous efforts of the filmmakers and actors and, above all, hurts fans of the film.

 

[automaton]

felt like a "direct to dvd flick"... sad, so many rich stories to draw from, yet cliche prevails...

 

[Dally]

I stumbled upon it streaming online last night and I couldn't resist to watch it. I thought it was pretty decent. I agree with Krayt Dragon and give it a 7/10 myself. I'll hold my final judgment until I see it in theaters because it was only about 80% done. None of the cgi for the final battle was done and

Spoiler

Deadpool was just a dude with magic marker all over him. Can't wait to see what he looks like scarred up. It was also cool that they did the final battle at Three Mile Island because I live near there.

After the credits there is a scene with Logan drinking at a bar in Japan.

 

[prefused]

After the credits there is a scene with Logan drinking at a bar in Japan.

i didn't really get the point of that. i guess it just means if there's a sequel, it'll be in japan.

felt like a "direct to dvd flick"... sad, so many rich stories to draw from, yet cliche prevails...

off topic, but i just had to say your avatar is awesome.