Would you have spent $450 for Fett if he was polystone or metal?

[Darklord Dave]

Metal? For the body? I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from.

 

[kodiak8658]

That's not really the choice - there was NO WAY to use polystone (unless they went back to the drawing board and resculpted everything from scratch at different sizes).

A grave error by the production team forced a change in materials mid-stride. Do you think if they did their homework, they may have gone with ABS from the start? That would have saved them the cost of the first aborted media and the cost to the consumer would have been less than $325, I have no doubts. Do you think SS is going to lose money on this piece? Nope, contrary to what they tell the public, they'll make a little instead of making alot. Also notice that the PF Darth Maul description has been updated to now include 'item is hand cast in polystone'? That was a smart move.

 

[Agent0028]

I'm not really sure how people can make the statement that sideshow is making a profit on this figure as if it is a fact without seeing the actual numbers. Logically one would expect that to be the case, but I do believe it is possible that sideshow would not raise the price even if production costs went up. But until someone actually looks at the cost of R&D, materials, production, etc I think it is impossible for any of us to know whether sideshow is making a huge profit on this, a little profit on it, or none at all.

 

[KitFisto]

I'm not really sure how people can make the statement that sideshow is making a profit on this figure as if it is a fact without seeing the actual numbers. Logically one would expect that to be the case, but I do believe it is possible that sideshow would not raise the price even if production costs went up. But until someone actually looks at the cost of R&D, materials, production, etc I think it is impossible for any of us to know whether sideshow is making a huge profit on this, a little profit on it, or none at all.

Why wouldn't it be fact? Do you honestly believe SS is going to put R&D time and production time into a statue to lose money or break even? No way. Who knows if the profit is small or large, but rest assured there is a profit.

 

[Agent0028]

Because there is no actual evidence to back it up. Opinions and logic are great for coming to conclusions, but without empirical evidence its not a fact.

 

[kodiak8658]

I'm not really sure how people can make the statement that sideshow is making a profit on this figure as if it is a fact without seeing the actual numbers. Logically one would expect that to be the case, but I do believe it is possible that sideshow would not raise the price even if production costs went up. But until someone actually looks at the cost of R&D, materials, production, etc I think it is impossible for any of us to know whether sideshow is making a huge profit on this, a little profit on it, or none at all.

I made the statement because I own a business, and have for over 25 years. I have a Marketing degree and real world market experience.

Sideshow would never take a loss on any product, even if it was their own fault. They would raise the price before that and take the cancellations on the chin. They're getting cancellations as it is so there is no difference.

Their huge profit margin is tied up in die-cast molds for Boba Plastic's body. They will however make a marginal profit @ $325 per. They will NEVER lose money. That's just common business sense no matter what their spokesperson claims. They cry so people like you think $325 isn't so bad for a 19" action figure. Word.

 

[kodiak8658]

Because there is no actual evidence to back it up. Opinions and logic are great for coming to conclusions, but without empirical evidence its not a fact.

What do you want? For Sideshow to open up their books to prove it. PLEASE!

 

[KitFisto]

Because there is no actual evidence to back it up. Opinions and logic are great for coming to conclusions, but without empirical evidence its not a fact.

I am sorry, but there is NO chance SS is producing this figure at a loss. If it were then they would have canceled it.

 

[Agent0028]

They cry so people like you think $325 isn't so bad for a 19" action figure. Word.

Is that an insult to me? I don't care whether sideshow cries or not, I will spend money on what I think is worth it and I'm not making that judgement call until I see it myself. And I wasn't directing my comment at you, I've just heard several people make the claim so I was only pointing out my objection to it.

I know sideshow isn't going to open up their books that was my point that you're going off you're experience. Granted you apparently have alot of experience and credentials to back up your statement but its not necessarily proof. Personally I agree with you and Kit that they are making a profit, however I still stand by my statement that it doesn't make it a fact.

It may be naive but I do believe it is possible that sideshow might produce one figure at a loss and it be absorbed by the profit from others.

 

[KitFisto]

however I still stand by my statement that it doesn't make it a fact.

I understand what you're saying, but by saying that you could argue that NOTHING in the world is fact unless you SEE proof. I think that's really reaching. Just my opinion.

 

[Agent0028]

Well, your opinion isn't wrong, it is stretching it a bit. Yet at the same time I can't really think off the top of my head that is accepted as fact without evidence for it. But maybe I am being too simplistic with this.

I guess it gets a little tangential anyways because regardless of whether it is a profit or loss, they are a company and without profit would not exist. I guess the bottom line is I'm barking up the wrong tree.

 

[kodiak8658]

Is that an insult to me? I don't care whether sideshow cries or not, I will spend money on what I think is worth it and I'm not making that judgement call until I see it myself. And I wasn't directing my comment at you, I've just heard several people make the claim so I was only pointing out my objection to it.

I know sideshow isn't going to open up their books that was my point that you're going off you're experience. Granted you apparently have alot of experience and credentials to back up your statement but its not necessarily proof. Personally I agree with you and Kit that they are making a profit, however I still stand by my statement that it doesn't make it a fact.

It may be naive but I do believe it is possible that sideshow might produce one figure at a loss and it be absorbed by the profit from others.

Not an insult, sorry you took it that way. I understand your view and no, it doesn't make it fact without proof. Just speculating on a hypothesis.

 

[Agent0028]

It wasn't so much that I took it that way as I wasn't sure which way to take it, so I figured it was better to just ask than take it as an insult if it wasn't. And thankyou for the apology even though it wasn't necessary.