X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016

[pturtle]

Another awesome X-Men film in 2016 confirmed

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I really hope we get a Morion-Captured big and beefy CGI Apocalypse.

The main reason Singer wanted to use quicksilver was to have something we've never seen in an X-Men film before (Super-Speed). Doing a big CGI Mutant is something that hasn't been done yet

 

[Frank]

I really hope we get a Morion-Captured big and beefy CGI Apocalypse.

The main reason Singer wanted to use quicksilver was to have something we've never seen in an X-Men film before (Super-Speed). Doing a big CGI Mutant is something that hasn't been done yet

Technically Ratner had that one chick who had super speed and a built-in mutant meter. Not done nearly as well as QS though.

 

[Khev]

If Singer is a rapist then I want him in jail, not directing more movies.

If he is found innocent then I actually would be just fine with him helming X-Men: Apocalypse. Aside from a few quibbles he really did a fantastic job with DOFP. The things he focused on (merging the two team histories/undoing past mistakes/introducing cool new mutants/creating an awesome period setting) he really nailed. I'd like to see what he can do with his full attention on making a spectacular movie without the damage control issues to also address.

And I like the idea of a "decade" movie with each new X-Men film. X:FC in the 60's, DOFP in the 70's, Apocalypse in the 80's and maybe Onslaught in the 90's.

 

[ironwez20]

I really hope we get a Morion-Captured big and beefy CGI Apocalypse.

The main reason Singer wanted to use quicksilver was to have something we've never seen in an X-Men film before (Super-Speed). Doing a big CGI Mutant is something that hasn't been done yet

I want juggernaut to be like that to. And quicksilver was technically in the now retconned orgins movie in that cage ( I dont know if its all retconned cuz they showed sabertooth crush wolverines bone claws.

 

[ironwez20]

If Singer is a rapist then I want him in jail, not directing more movies.

If he is found innocent then I actually would be just fine with him helming X-Men: Apocalypse. Aside from a few quibbles he really did a fantastic job with DOFP. The things he focused on (merging the two team histories/undoing past mistakes/introducing cool new mutants/creating an awesome period setting) he really nailed. I'd like to see what he can do with his full attention on making a spectacular movie without the damage control issues to also address.

And I like the idea of a "decade" movie with each new X-Men film. X:FC in the 60's, DOFP in the 70's, Apocalypse in the 80's and maybe Onslaught in the 90's.

justin bieber in the 00s.

 

[karamazov80]

Trust me, they aren't worried about doing it right, they're worried about how much money they can make. Just look what they felt was OK for Deadpool in Origins: Wolverine.

They'll never make an R rated film they want tied into the rest of the PG-13 world. The only R rated Marvel movies so far have been the Blade and Punisher movies and those didn't exactly break box office records. The last Punisher, despite being good IMO, only made a few million. Fox wants hundreds of millions for any X film they make. Big budget films just by their nature of being big budget films need to bring in large amounts of cash to justify the project and that means hitting a PG-13 rating. Until you see an R rated film really break that $100 million box office mark on opening weekend, studios won't back big, expensive R rated films. Dredd would have likely made a LOT more money had it been PG-13. Great film, but the rating just killed it at the box office.

M rated video games don't carry the same stigma an R rated movie has. Call of Duty and Halo are both M and they are some of the best selling game franchises out there. They made an M rated Deapool game and I think that's the closest you'll ever see to a true comic Deadpool being done 'right.' Its a strange thing. An M rated game is probably the 'greater evil' as the M rated acts are usually performed by the players, whereas the R rated acts are only viewed by the audience watching the film. But for whatever reason, society deems R rated films as something to keep kids from, but generally they don't prevent them from getting the M rated games. And so much of these movies are aimed at kids - the toys, the games, super heroes in general, etc. That's not to say they won't have more mature themes or plots, but they aren't going to be spewing blood all over the placee, dropping F bombs, and prancing around naked like they would in an R rated film.

I personally don't know enough about Deadpool to really care if he gets a PG-13 or R rated film, but logistically, I just don't ever see an R rated film happening due to the lower box office intake. Simple as that.

When I say "do it right," I mean do the character any kind of justice at all. If they don't have f-bombs out the wazoo (maybe they could comically bleep all of them out, actually) and insane, over the top violence and gore, then it isn't going to be a Deadpool movie most fans will be into. Once you start sanitizing the character, he loses any appeal he would otherwise have. That's the fundamental problem. I agree that doing an R film with a superhero is a hard sell, but how do you do Deadpool in any other way? That's where I think the conflict lies. Otherwise, I figure we would have had a film by now, because he is so popular. Much more so than, say, Gambit at this point.

And I like the idea of a "decade" movie with each new X-Men film. X:FC in the 60's, DOFP in the 70's, Apocalypse in the 80's and maybe Onslaught in the 90's.

I also like doing the different period pieces. . .maybe if we could squeeze two '80s films in there, though? The accusations against Singer came pretty recently, and didn't seem to be much of a public issue during the actual filming and post-production of DOFP, so I don't think they played a role in the final product.

 

[Khev]

In the late 80's the two Marvel titles that purchased each and every month were Captain America (Gruenwald John Walker/The Captain/Bloodstone/Crossbones era) and Wolverine (his first ongoing series.) After DOFP ended as I was walking out of the theater I saw that Winter Soldier was still playing and peaked into the auditorium and watched a few minutes of Steve and Black Widow exploring the Camp Lehigh basement. I couldn't help but be overjoyed at what my "1980's self" was enjoying that afternoon. To think back so many years to being a kid reading those comics and that one day I'd see two amazing live-action big budget films across the hall from each other in one theater. Great stuff.

 

[Jack D]

In the late 80's the two Marvel titles that purchased each and every month were Captain America (Gruenwald John Walker/The Captain/Bloodstone/Crossbones era) and Wolverine (his first ongoing series.) After DOFP ended as I was walking out of the theater I saw that Winter Soldier was still playing and peaked into the auditorium and watched a few minutes of Steve and Black Widow exploring the Camp Lehigh basement. I couldn't help but be overjoyed at what my "1980's self" was enjoying that afternoon. To think back so many years to being a kid reading those comics and that one day I'd see two amazing live-action big budget films across the hall from each other in one theater. Great stuff.

Man, I know exactly what you mean. That's how I felt watching the Avengers in the theater; as a kid, I would've went nuts over a film for (pretty much) any one of those characters, but to see Captain America, Thor, Iron Man and the Hulk all together in a really cool, big budget blockbuster type movie...well I just had a huge grin on my face during a lot of scenes. It was awesome, totally brought me back to the 90's when I was growing up and comics were my life.

 

[karamazov80]

Yeah, DOFP is the closest thing to doing that for me so far, up there with Spider-Man 2 and X2. I read Cap comics as a kid, but none of the movies I've seen have really been in the same spirit as those yet. The first one was (only in my opinion of course) too generic in its way, and the new one, while great, is so modern and deals with political intrigue that it doesn't connect with me on that level. Nolan Batfilms worked that way, as well. I love them, but they don't pull on the nostalgia string like B:TAS did.

I was really hopeful that the Transformers and GI Joe movies could also transport me back in time, but no. All they did was give me horrible experiences of watching ****** movies that didn't understand the source material at all. I could say the same for Man of Steel.

 

[karamazov80]

Man, I know exactly what you mean. That's how I felt watching the Avengers in the theater; as a kid, I would've went nuts over a film for (pretty much) any one of those characters, but to see Captain America, Thor, Iron Man and the Hulk all together in a really cool, big budget blockbuster type movie...well I just had a huge grin on my face during a lot of scenes. It was awesome, totally brought me back to the 90's when I was growing up and comics were my life.

Avengers is another one I really enjoyed, but Iron Man is so different and constantly overshadowed Cap, Hulk is really no Avenger in my book, Hawkeye was unrecognizable to me. So, again, that's one that was great for what it was, but didn't connect to the kid version of me reading comics back in the '80s and early '90s.

 

[Khev]

I read Cap comics as a kid, but none of the movies I've seen have really been in the same spirit as those yet. The first one was (only in my opinion of course) too generic in its way, and the new one, while great, is so modern and deals with political intrigue that it doesn't connect with me on that level.

My favorite Cap comic run was Mark Gruenwald's "Cap No More" storyline (issues 332-350) where a special commission of superhero activities was appointed by the President to monitor superheroes in the US and to make Cap be a government stooge who goes on the missions they tell him to. Steve resisted, turned in his shield and uniform and donned a black costume and got a new shield. By the end of the story we learn that the slick dude in the suit who was pulling the strings of the commission was actually the Red Skull in disguise.

I saw a ton of those themes echoed in TWS. Cap questioning SHIELD's orders, Pierce in the Red Skull roll, Cap going "undercover" with Black Widow vs. Diamondback. Steve's new dark costume, The Falcon helping him out, and so on. Yes the overall look was modern and Brubaker-esque and so on but it still hit all the right nostalgic notes for me.

 

[karamazov80]

I think we talked about this before, but I was into the late '70s/early '80s stuff, and there was some government skepticism going on, but nothing like Winter Soldier.

 

[Khev]

Yes we have but okay, if you like late 70's stuff what about issue #227 from 1978? Cap has to battle his way through a helicarrier where all SHIELD agents have been turned into zombified Red Skulls. The real Red Skull is holding Nick Fury captive while he's about to set off a satellite death ray. Cap beats the crap out of an army of Red Skulls and notices that its not the real Fury (its an android) because Fury isn't sweating. He disables the death ray satellite and saves the day.

Pretty Winter Soldier-ish IMO. In the movie Cap has to fight through two helicarriers filled with HYDRA agents in order to disable death rays while the movie also features a twist regarding the fate of Nick Fury.

 

[pturtle]

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=102838

Glad to see Singer working on the script.

 

[DiFabio]

Hopefully he directs.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Hopefully he directs.

 

[karamazov80]

Hopefully he directs.

. . .Superman vs. Batman.

 

[DiFabio]

. . .Superman vs. Batman.

No thanks . . .

 

[karamazov80]

I'll take two baby daddy superheroes strongly inspired by older movies over the Snyderverse version of Supes every day and twice on Sunday, thank you very much.