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Spidey's alone.

Having lots of bright yellow, green, often sleeveless costumes all together, women in thong suits and kneehigh boots ect.. :monkey4
Well that's certainly not an arbitrary, self-serving distinction.

There was just NOTHING heroic or super about that trailer.

Just music trying to trick your brain into believing that what they were saying was important and world changing.

Sorry, but i'll take Hulk smash over this serious stuff.

Least the brothers filmed enough action to put it into their trailer.
Singer just wants soap operas acted out by costumed characters.
Clearly, the Cap trailer was better IMO. But I'm not against X-Men being more of a soap opera than a traditional beat-em-up action film by traditional, heroic characters. I do agree with Uncanny guy in that sense, because it fits the nature of the comics and franchise. Mutants are freaks. They're hated by normals, they can't get along with each other, the spectre of death always seemed to hang heavier over them than over other characters and teams. Ultimately, their existence seemed to be more of a genuine, constant struggle than guys like the Avengers, who in my mind were more in line with the classic JSA--they were mostly loved by the public (statues erected in their honor, etc.), could take extended sabbaticals for various reasons (the mass exodus of members before issue 20), and be comfortable bachelors, scientists, and leaders of industry in their spare time if they chose to. The X-Men couldn't do those things for the most part. And their victories were never fully satisfying ones, because they were always battling for the survival of their own kind against threats from bigots. This is prime, soap opera material. As are Spider-Man, and Batman in their own ways, as those respective stories lend themselves to an examination of internal conflicts and motives more than just good guys responding to external threats to the world broadly defined--which is more Avengers, Fantastic Four, and JLA material.
 
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Agreed, though i really liked Thor and The First Avenger.





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I liked Thor a lot, it had some really good performances but just fell short of being great to me. Cap I thought was good up until he gets in uniform, the movie strangely went down hill for me. Iron Man 2 and 3 were terrible, and the Avengers I hated. The final scene with everyone together was great but I thought the performances and dialogue were just meh.
 
Mutants are freaks. They're hated by normals, they can't get along with each other, the spectre of death always seemed to hang heavier over them than over other characters and teams. Ultimately, their existence seemed to be more of a genuine, constant struggle than guys like the Avengers, who in my mind were more in line with the classic JSA--they were mostly loved by the public (statues erected in their honor, etc.), could take extended sabbaticals for various reasons (the mass exodus of members before issue 20), and be comfortable bachelors, scientists, and leaders of industry in their spare time if they chose to. The X-Men couldn't do those things for the most part. And their victories were never fully satisfying ones, because they were always battling for the survival of their own kind against threats from bigots. This is prime, soap opera material. As are Spider-Man, and Batman in their own ways, as those respective stories lend themselves to an examination of internal conflicts and motives more than just good guys responding to external threats--which is more Avengers, Fantastic Four, and JLA material.

Very well put :clap
 
Well that's certainly not an arbitrary, self-serving distinction.




Clearly, the Cap trailer was better IMO. But I'm not against X-Men being more of a soap opera than a traditional beat-em-up action film by traditional, heroic characters. I do agree with Uncanny guy in that sense, because it fits the nature of the comics and franchise. Mutants are freaks. They're hated by normals, they can't get along with each other, the spectre of death always seemed to hang heavier over them than over other characters and teams. Ultimately, their existence seemed to be more of a genuine, constant struggle than guys like the Avengers, who in my mind were more in line with the classic JSA--they were mostly loved by the public (statues erected in their honor, etc.), could take extended sabbaticals for various reasons (the mass exodus of members before issue 20), and be comfortable bachelors, scientists, and leaders of industry in their spare time if they chose to. The X-Men couldn't do those things for the most part. And their victories were never fully satisfying ones, because they were always battling for the survival of their own kind against threats from bigots. This is prime, soap opera material. As are Spider-Man, and Batman in their own ways, as those respective stories lend themselves to an examination of internal conflicts and motives more than just good guys responding to external threats to the world broadly defined--which is more Avengers, Fantastic Four, and JLA material.

Very well said indeed.

Trailer was still all mumbo jumbo serious talk that made absolutely no sense and everyone, I mean everyone was walking or sitting, hell, even Mystique's action scene had her laying down!

X-Men comics is exactly what you described, but their team still stood up and kicked super heroic style ***, they didn't just walk hallways engaged in perpetual whispering conversations all day long!

I would've never read them if they were as boring as this trailer! :rotfl
 
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Yeah, like I said before, I think this trailer is a bit underwhelming, particularly in relation to Cap. But if it was really effective moodiness and drama (doesn't seem to be) I would be totally OK with it. I think a lot of it is the silly costume choices--a lot of these (Storm, Warpath, Blink, Bishop) look like bad Halloween costumes--but the trailer also feels a bit awkward and cheap somehow. Like maybe they moved the timeline for the trailer up trying to respond to the Cap trailer release, and couldn't polish it off well. I almost get a DTV vibe from it, to be honest.
 
Yeah, like I said before, I think this trailer is a bit underwhelming, particularly in relation to Cap. But if it was really effective moodiness and drama (doesn't seem to be) I would be totally OK with it. I think a lot of it is the silly costume choices--a lot of these (Storm, Warpath, Blink, Bishop) look like bad Halloween costumes--but the trailer also feels a bit awkward and cheap somehow. Like maybe they moved the timeline for the trailer up trying to respond to the Cap trailer release, and couldn't polish it off well. I almost get a DTV vibe from it, to be honest.

Totally DTV vibe, especially with the halloween makeup characters.

If not for the triple powerhouse of Jackman/Mckellen/Stewart, this would look like cheap crap. :lol
 
I thought the trailer was as underwhelming as it could be. It looks like a trailer for Wolverine 3. Plus Bryan Singer is directing again. Ugh, I hae that guy. I'll go see it, but I'm not optimistic. I think First Class was by far the best X-Men movie because it had character development.
 
If not for the triple powerhouse of Jackman/Mckellen/Stewart, this would look like cheap crap. :lol
And even there, McKellen and Stewart look so dang old now. That part feels like Return to the Batcave.

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I actually think the most dramatic weight is gonna come from McAvoy, Fassbender, and Jackman. But some of those other circus sideshow rejects are probably going to detract from that.
 
Like maybe they moved the timeline for the trailer up trying to respond to the Cap trailer release, and couldn't polish it off well.

Except for the music, it's the exact same trailer that was shown at SDCC.

If not for the triple powerhouse of Jackman/Mckellen/Stewart, this would look like cheap crap. :lol

If not for The Hulk and Iron Man, The Avengers would look like cheap crap too. :nana:
 
I thought it looks good, but really; who gives a **** about what "message" they're trying to convey. I think Cap looks awesome, but what's its message, exactly? "Hey, kids! Always remember that it's okay to take human growth hormone, so long as your heart's in the right place and you remember to join the army once you've got huge biceps and tiny *****."
 
I can't stop watching this trailer! The last time I felt such heavy drama from a superhero movie was TDK.

This movie might just top TDK as my all time favourite superhero movie.

I know some of you felt that this is not a proper sequel to First Class but it is. Majority of the movie takes place in the 70s and I heard the old cast have relatively short shorting period (Patrick Steward only shot for a week or something and Halle Berry a few days)
 
Yep, have to agree. Some of the costumes and make-up look pretty ridiculous. And could they have laid on the melodrama any thicker... Wanted to quote some of the cheesy Xavier lines but can't bear to watch it again. Composition of the trailer is pretty weak. We have no idea what's so horrible about the present that Wolverine has to go back. Just a bunch of shots of different people cowering here and there. Looks really unpolished and they probably should've waited a while before releasing anything. Still like the concept but a little sceptical now that it'll be good.
 
Shush. :thwak

I don't understand how a franchise as awesome as X-Men can be made to be this excruciatingly boring. I have tried hard to like these movies, and I still haven't given up on this, but damn. It ain't easy.
 
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