X-Men: Days of Future Past

[jye4ever]

Still the same Wolverine, just different set of memories.

Actually no, won't he possess both memories now once PX tells him what took olace from drowning to waking up?

He will still remember killing Jean, no?

Ahh **** this time travel ****.

 

[jye4ever]

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I think Wolverine woke up somewhere around the time of X2. I would guess prior to the attack on the school because the school is still standing. Scott and Jean are alive. Rogue and Iceman are still together. They "broke up" in X3 didn't they and Iceman and Kitty started dating in X3.

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Was there any significance to the fact that Mystique (disguised as Stryker) took Wolverine from the past? I am guessing she let him go?

Wait, I thought this new timeline erased X1/X2/X3.

There was no attack on the mansion by Stryker, he didn't kill Jean in X3.

This is all new, we don't know as audiences what happened from drowning to waking up.

 

[Khev]

I think Singer did do a good job of making a fun time-travel story that we can mull about like the Terminator films. Imagine if T1 or T2 was able to cut back and forth between the final battles in LA with the final battle of John trying to send a protector back through time. Frequency basically did that already but this is the first time that I remember it occurring in a big summer blockbuster.

I just don't like feeling like "status quo" must be maintained at all costs which is what I got from DOFP. If this was any other movie then Mystique should have

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blown Magneto away at the end.

But no, just a wound, and everybody just walks off with no

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bad guys being killed.

Even Trask's fate

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was just revealed through a newspaper article!

Just not as satisfying as I was hoping. I was also hoping for more carnage from the 1970's Sentinels. Blowing away the cop cars with no loss of innocent life greatly diminished them IMO. They didn't need to go full ED-209 but something a little more shocking would have been cool.

 

[a-dev]

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This is the one thing that did puzzle me a bit, as I was thinking about it right before going to sleep. I assumed Wolverine would have appeared back at the same age at which he disappeared. Makes logical sense he would come back to the same point that he left, right? But also, Storm's hair was the same, Kitty and Bobby seemed the same age, Prof. X seemed the same age. Beast was an old fogey (Grammer?).

But if that's the case, and we can assume this is the far future of the new film timeline, then that takes a bit of additional mystery away. We can already assume that all these characters make it through whatever the future films throw at us. It also means that the Wolverine personality of the new timeline (whatever Wolverine we will see in the future films, assuming no additional timeline changes) ceased to exist when the previous Wolvie personality returned, which is kind of sad.

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On the issue of the 'Sentinel-future' version of Wolverine taking over the body of 'new timeline' Wolverine - perhaps they'll explain it as a merging rather than a 'take-over'. Maybe Xavier will only have to jog his memory and the past 50 years will come back to him in combination with the original memories of the sentinel timeline. In that way the poor Logan from the 70s who was oblivious to what was going on will get to continue on. He'll have a brief bit of amnesia in 2023 before becoming a Logan with knowledge of 2 timelines.

 

[jye4ever]

My brother hates Superhero movies, he says they all play it too safe, their only goal is too keep characters alive to make more money.

I get that, he's right.

But I don't care, I want to see Bond, Wolverine, Batman and Godzilla in new adventures.

 

[karamazov80]

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Unless it really moves the story forward, or is a logical resolution, I prefer to see the bad guys walk away to live another day. And in this film, the optimistic tone at the end, with 70s Mystique and Mags alive, then seeing all the old crew still together was very effective IMO. This is a pretty dark franchise--comics and films--and this was the darkest film yet. So having that kind of resolution feels that much more satisfying IMO.

Still the same Wolverine, just different set of memories.

Actually no, won't he possess both memories now once PX tells him what took olace from drowning to waking up?

He will still remember killing Jean, no?

Ahh **** this time travel ****.

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As I understand it, this Wolvie should have memories of all the previous X-films (apart from the ones where he had amnesia following Wolvie: Origins, I guess ), as still remembered by old man Wolvie in the future at the beginning of the film. Then, he should have all the experiences he had going back in time, ending with his drowning, then nothing until he reawakens in the future. The Wolvie who lived from being drowned until being taken over by the Wolvie we saw through most of the film (through the '70s, '80s, '90s, '00s, etc.) would cease to be in that last scene. Yet Prof. X seemed to feel no tinge of sadness about that.

 

[karamazov80]

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On the issue of the 'Sentinel-future' version of Wolverine taking over the body of 'new timeline' Wolverine - perhaps they'll explain it as a merging rather than a 'take-over'. Maybe Xavier will only have to jog his memory and the past 50 years will come back to him in combination with the original memories of the sentinel timeline. In that way the poor Logan from the 70s who was oblivious to what was going on will get to continue on. He'll have a brief bit of amnesia in 2023 before becoming a Logan with knowledge of 2 timelines.

That would be a more satisfying way to handle it IMO. But I really doubt we'll see this future point revisited again.

 

[Khev]

I understand that they couldn't very well off

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Magneto

but

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Trask? He was the Alexander Pierce of the story. We certainly could have seen a satisfying demise for him. Having both Magneto AND Trask live to fight another day was a bit much IMO.

 

[a-dev]

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As I understand it, this Wolvie should have memories of all the previous X-films (apart from the ones where he had amnesia following Wolvie: Origins, I guess ), as still remembered by old man Wolvie in the future at the beginning of the film. Then, he should have all the experiences he had going back in time, ending with his drowning, then nothing until he reawakens in the future. The Wolvie who lived from being drowned until being taken over by the Wolvie we saw through most of the film (through the '70s, '80s, '90s, '00s, etc.) would cease to be in that last scene. Yet Prof. X seemed to feel no tinge of sadness about that.

See my post above. But this actually reminds me of a discussion we had in the Terminator Genesis thread about the 'original John Connor' who gets wiped out of existance by Kyle Reese when Kyle ****s Sarah Connor, creating an entirely new John Connor, the one we see in the movies.

 

[pturtle]

I can't believe Cap opened stronger than Spider-Man and a freaking Brian Singer X-Men *all star* movie. That's so cool.

I did really like that DOFP not only literally "fixed" the previous films but also ended with

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two separate X-Men teams in two separate eras allowing them to continue both the FC team (minus Banshee) and the Singer team.

A pretty cool feat that Singer pulled off.

One thing I wasn't sure of though was this:

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What time did Wolverine wake up in at the end? He had the white streaks in his hair like it was 2022 but I didn't get the impression that other characters like Jean and Cyclops were "future aged" like him.

I think it broke the foreign record, made even more than Avatar. Seems the X-Men aren't that loved domestically. Hopefully word of mouth helps it out.


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[karamazov80]

I understand that they couldn't very well off

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Magneto

but

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Trask? He was the Alexander Pierce of the story. We certainly could have seen a satisfying demise for him. Having both Magneto AND Trask live to fight another day was a bit much IMO.

But it would just be killing him for the sake of killing him. Does the audience always need to get their blood lust satisfied through a death for some reason? I don't think Winter Soldier would have been any worse off if Pearce was arrested at the end. And more importantly, the story was actually moved forward by the fact that he was spared.

 

[Buttmunch]

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The whole film was about stopping Mystique from becoming a killer. Had she killed Magneto, she would have gone down an even darker path than she did in the original timeline. She's not that Mystique anymore. She's not Charles' or Eric's Raven either. She's her own person at this point. She could go in either direction - good or bad.

 

[pturtle]

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There was a lot of death in the movie, even though a lot if people ended up coming back.

I’m still shocked that people are upset about this though, this is the only series where main characters have been getting killed off consistently since the first film, to the point fans are upset and wanted a reboot to bring some of these characters back. Now they bring some people back and people want death again. I think this movie earned the right to not really kill anyone off.

I’m also glad Trask didn’t die, i’d like to see him return in future movies.

For the people who want some permanent deaths, does Emma, Azazzel, Banshee, and Angel count? I'm kind if devastated that 3/4 of them are dead, and most likely aren't returning.

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Box Office Mojo adds that X-Men: Days of Future Past actually took $91.4 million for the three day weekend, and with $111 million domestically and an additional $191 million from overseas, that's a whopping $302 million after less than a week of release! That $91.4 million means it didn't top Captain America: The Winter Soldier, and comes just slightly shy of The Amazing Spider-Man 2's debut, but it's interesting to wonder just how much it would have taken across Friday, Saturday and Sunday had some not decided to wait until today to check it out. We'll obviously have some slightly more specific numbers for you later today or early tomorrow, but this is a great result for a damn good movie, wouldn't you agree? Check out my 5* review by clicking here.

Seems to be doing pretty good. Glad to see theres room for every superhero flick to succeed this year, and Godzilla.

 

[jye4ever]

They died because they sucked.

 

[Josette]

I liked Banshee more than Scott, Storm, and Jean, quite frankly. He had a lot of fun scenes in XFC.

 

[pturtle]

Banshee and Darwin were my 2 favorite from the FC team. I hated that Darwin got killed, didn’t help that his death made no sense either.

Azazzel I liked, Emma I would have liked to see become more than a robot. Hopefully they find a way to bring her back.

 

[Josette]

I liked Darwin, too.

It doesn't seem like it's too popular to say, but I generally liked the XFC team more than the original team. I really never felt like Singer did Jean, Cyclops or Storm justice, and I also feel like there were miscasts there. They were flat to me, a lot of the time.

The First Class team seemed to have more of a dynamic. I enjoyed the scenes with them naming each other and the training scenes at the mansion.

 

[The Josh]

The reason for me First Class was solid was because of Charles, Eric, and Raven/Mystique. I didn't care at all for the rest of those kids and Emma Frost was a total waste of space. I'd really like to see them ditch those kids and start using some familiar characters when they were younger.

 

[Josette]

Magneto, along with some help from Mystique and Xavier, pretty much owned XFC for me, but I still enjoyed most of the young team.

Recasted Scott, Jean and Storm, written better, might get me interested in them more as characters, so I would be up for that.

 

[pturtle]

I thought Lawrence was absolutely horrible as Raven in FC, but I do agree, I really like the younger team in FC. Famke, and Halle really never did it for me as Jean and Storm, but I thought Marsden had untapped potential to make for a great Cyclops. His blast in the water is probably the only scene I really enjoyed in X3, I just wish he was blasting a person and not water haha.

By the way, I really liked Nicholas Hoult as Hank in DOFP, I'm glad Singer dropped the whole weird quirky act from him, it made him a lot more likable.

I thought Mcavoy was the standout in DOFP, to me, he was what Fassbender was to FC. He might not of had the most action scenes, but as far as acting performances go, I thought he stole the show.


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