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This is the case for any highly over-exposed character.

I think it is the suit and cape that throws me off the most. Perhaps if he really looked like an alien -- something unusual, not a monster, not a bug... just different, then I would be willing to explore the immigration policies you suggest.

But didn't Zach tiptoe on that stuff already? Didn't the MCU build a world around the idea of super beings and how they are outsiders? X-men, etc... it is the defining storyline of comics... along with What is Justice and Who Should Wield It.

Snyder did indeed tiptoe around some of it, but was saddled with what I believe were clunky screenplays (for the most part). He and Terrio seem to have trouble leaving things out and streamlining the narrative. It's like the thinking is that there's no such thing as too many plot threads. :lol Terrio did the same thing, IMO, with Rise of Skywalker. So many plot points that should get proper foundation first, then thematic resolution upon completion, are ultimately left half baked in order to get a reasonable runtime for the movie to play to a mass audience.

I think the tiptoeing that you refer to happened primarily in BvS. But the third act of that film had to take a major pivot to introduce Doomsday and the typical "battle to the death" (as we also got with Zod in MoS before that). For whatever reason, the Death of Superman story had to get crammed into the film. Along the way, Wonder Woman also had to be established in order to set up the Justice League. The narrative focus got diluted to a certain extent. These things complicate how much can be extracted from thematic groundwork to pay it off with a focused resolution at the climax. It just ends up being more setup for later, and then ultimately a departure in part.

Whatever themes were explored about Superman as a superior being having to fit in a world that's not quite sure how to react to that, those were never resolved to the fullest because he had to go fight other aliens (Zod, Doomsday, & Steppenwolf). It's no longer just "how does Superman fit?" but rather "what do all these gods among men mean for the world now?"

I think there's a lot to explore with Superman that would be anything but juvenile, and also less redundant with respect to how the MCU presents its superhero outsiders. But it just might not be what Superman audiences want.
 
Surprised people are still talking about this trash.

Like a normal person, I forgot this trash existed, barely remember it, and won’t be crying about it 20 years later.

That's what I think about the Prequel Trilogy. The DVDs are good for scrapping the ice off your windshield.
 
That's what I think about the Prequel Trilogy. The DVDs are good for scrapping the ice off your windshield.

I’d say the Snyder Blu-Ray would be good for wiping my ***, but then I’d just be spreading **** on myself.
 
I’d say the Snyder Blu-Ray would be good for wiping my ***, but then I’d just be spreading **** on myself.

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Surprised people are still talking about this trash.

Like a normal person, I forgot this trash existed, barely remember it, and won?t be crying about it 20 years later.

Lol, no time to cry like the present however :rotfl

20 years from now we'll all be praising you for being the number one reason that Justice League 2 and 3 were made because you drove the ZSJL DVD sales through the roof using them to wipe your bitter ***. :lol
 
I?d say the Snyder Blu-Ray would be good for wiping my ***, but then I?d just be spreading **** on myself.

Advice....Lighten the fu$k up. Try to find a partner Male/Female and chill out about a comic book movie. Bloody hell.
 
Advice....Lighten the fu$k up. Try to find a partner Male/Female and chill out about a comic book movie. Bloody hell.

Responses like this always amuse me. You must be real delusional or soft or both.

1. It was a joke in response to another reply about PT DVDs. So you lighten the **** up and stop crying.

2. Why aren’t you crying about the PT hate that is 20 years old now? I’ve seen worse things said about that on repeat for my short time here nobody bats an eye. Some true nut cases here.
 
I never seen this actor before, but he certainly has a good John Stewart look to him. I would've liked to see how it played out on screen. Too bad. Maybe the Lantern HBO Max show might be alright. :dunno
 
free digital copy of 4k bvs up for grabs ,usa only apparently ,im in the uk so not available to me so happy to pass it on

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^ Thanks on behalf of whoever beat me to it :) (I'm not in US either but have a US iTunes account)

Meanwhile...

Zack Snyder has decided to postpone his adaption of the Ayn Rand novel The Fountainhead.

Discussing why the long-awaited adaptation had been put on hold, the Justice League director said on the podcast Life is Short with Justin Long that he believes a more "liberal government" is needed to make a movie so that "everyone won't freak out or something".
 
Responses like this always amuse me. You must be real delusional or soft or both.

1. It was a joke in response to another reply about PT DVDs. So you lighten the **** up and stop crying.

2. Why aren?t you crying about the PT hate that is 20 years old now? I?ve seen worse things said about that on repeat for my short time here nobody bats an eye. Some true nut cases here.

But your comparing 3 movies that are objectively bad (made for kids which is fine) to one that is not objectively bad based not only the feedback on this forum but throughout the net. It’s like ******** on the lord of the rings and defending it by saying "people have been ******** on DC's Catwoman for 30 years"- one deserves to be **** on the other doesn’t. So, what you are saying makes no sense. Moreover, way before you joined this forum there was constant hate towards Zacks Snyder’s movies- the only difference now is we know why they weren't well received back then (studio meddling). For nearly 7 years after Man of Steel it was constant bashing of the DCEU, that is until his version of justice league dropped and people got to see his true vision and direction for his films including all the connecting story arcs- it was a well-thought-out story that was sabotaged by big wigs that know nothing about filmmaking or story telling

It ok if you dont like the movie, trust me we all get it- you've made it known on a daily basis since it dropped, but the rationalization you used for defending your comment is missing the mark
 
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