Zack Snyder's Justice League

[The Buffinator]

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He also said that he's hoping to be added to the MCU and that he'll never work on a Kevin Feige production, lol.

Just saw this

lol

After watching the first two episodes of WandaVision, I was thinking that maybe he could land a role as a member of S.W.O.R.D.. As long as no one tells him that it was created by Joss Whedon in Astonishing X-Men, I'm sure everything will be fine.

 

[loki2371]

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Hey, BvS has bad stuff (Lex) but also has some of the best stuff of any DC movie. Best Batman/Bruce Wayne, best visuals and design, best Wonder Woman, Best action.

Saying BvS had some of the best stuff of any DC movie isn't saying much so far with the DCEU... Zack did nothing new. He used the Dark Knight comic as a template for the costume and ripped of the Batmobile from the Arkham series of video games. And let's not even talk about either Doomsdays portrayal or design.. I respect your opinion, but I just don't understand how actual DC comic fans like BvS.

I agree with you on Lex and as for me and my opinion he is the WORST adaption of a villain ever on screen. As bad as Leto's SS Joker was/is, I still think JL's Lex was worse. To the point where I want to turn it off the minute he is seen on screen. He is the main reason I can't sit through a 2nd viewing and even give the UE version a watch.

As for Wonder Woman, we really have no comparison to gage her performance with (and NO Linda Carter doesn't count as we need a modern comparison not something from TV in the 70's). Gadot is acceptable but I'm sure there was a better choice out there. I feel they simply wanted a known and well liked charismatic actor and to grab some of her Fast & Furious worldwide fan base.

And finally you should always add "In my opinion" cause Batfleck is to me NOT the best Batman/Bruce Wayne by far. I didn't care for him as either Batman or Wayne. He isn't Clooney bad or Val Kilmer bad, but Afleck would never have been my choice as even a contender to play the role. If I had to choose from what we've gotten on screen, I'd still have to go with Christian Bale as the best performance to date in both roles. He made both a convincing Bruce Wayne and Batman (other than the voice, but I'm sure that had more to do with Nolan). But, I don't think anyone has owned that role. For me the best Batman is still out there and yet to be put on screen. And, yet again, in NO way is it gonna be Robert Pattinson..

I'd rather watch Green Lantern again than watch BvS.. In fact I think I'd give any DC comic book movie a watch (excluding Catwoman as I've never seen it and never will) including Superman 3 & 4 and Batman 3 & 4 before trying to watch BvS again.

I've given up on DC/WB ever thrilling me with a near perfect comic movie. The bar was set with The Dark Knight for DC and I don't ever see them even coming close to that level of movie ever again. I can't help but role my eyes at everything they do. AND I am a DC FAN since the 80's, I am not a MARVEL/MCU fan boy...

 

[Rainpaulo]

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Why are the haters on here bashing the film...honestly it's odd.
I'm not over on Capt Marvel thread as I tought I was crap and dont need any ongoing discussion about it.

 

[Neal136]

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Why are the haters on here bashing the film...honestly it's odd.
I'm not over on Capt Marvel thread as I tought I was crap and dont need any ongoing discussion about it.

If people didn't post about what they hated, nothing would ever happen around here.

 

[jye4ever]

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That's how we’re gonna post. Not bashing what we hate. Celebrating what we love.

 

[ironwez20]

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We are DC fans. We want things to go in the right direction. I want DC to succeed and for a fleshed out universe. I want snyder to prove me wrong but I?m sorry everything I?m hearing about this is a mess and this universe is terribly put together.

Right now DC is the butt of the joker when it comes to hero movies which is completely sad since they had a huge head start before marvel . When I was growing up they were household names. Not freakin groot

 

[ironwez20]

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I don?t see how this is a dog at anyone... it?s just factually correct, no producer ever has achieved even what half of Feige has done



Hey, BvS has bad stuff (Lex) but also has some of the best stuff of any DC movie. Best Batman/Bruce Wayne, best visuals and design, best Wonder Woman, Best action.


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Best batman? Very debatable. Best visuals and design? Nah. That?s pretty much the only onscreen Wonder Woman and far from the best action. The big fight they had was absolutely awful. Just throwing each other around in a bathroom.

Ugh I hate doing this but I felt more emotion seeing cap fight iron man cause there was atleast history there.

The dark knight , Batman returns , joker , superman 76 , Batman 89 and Batman begins are the best DC movies ever made. Aquaman and Wonder Woman and Shazam are also very good

The two greatest of heroes of all time meet and It?s completely forgettable.

 

[ironwez20]

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Saying BvS had some of the best stuff of any DC movie isn't saying much so far with the DCEU... Zack did nothing new. He used the Dark Knight comic as a template for the costume and ripped of the Batmobile from the Arkham series of video games. And let's not even talk about either Doomsdays portrayal or design.. I respect your opinion, but I just don't understand how actual DC comic fans like BvS.

I agree with you on Lex and as for me and my opinion he is the WORST adaption of a villain ever on screen. As bad as Leto's SS Joker was/is, I still think JL's Lex was worse. To the point where I want to turn it off the minute he is seen on screen. He is the main reason I can't sit through a 2nd viewing and even give the UE version a watch.

As for Wonder Woman, we really have no comparison to gage her performance with (and NO Linda Carter doesn't count as we need a modern comparison not something from TV in the 70's). Gadot is acceptable but I'm sure there was a better choice out there. I feel they simply wanted a known and well liked charismatic actor and to grab some of her Fast & Furious worldwide fan base.

And finally you should always add "In my opinion" cause Batfleck is to me NOT the best Batman/Bruce Wayne by far. I didn't care for him as either Batman or Wayne. He isn't Clooney bad or Val Kilmer bad, but Afleck would never have been my choice as even a contender to play the role. If I had to choose from what we've gotten on screen, I'd still have to go with Christian Bale as the best performance to date in both roles. He made both a convincing Bruce Wayne and Batman (other than the voice, but I'm sure that had more to do with Nolan). But, I don't think anyone has owned that role. For me the best Batman is still out there and yet to be put on screen. And, yet again, in NO way is it gonna be Robert Pattinson..

I'd rather watch Green Lantern again than watch BvS.. In fact I think I'd give any DC comic book movie a watch (excluding Catwoman as I've never seen it and never will) including Superman 3 & 4 and Batman 3 & 4 before trying to watch BvS again.

I've given up on DC/WB ever thrilling me with a near perfect comic movie. The bar was set with The Dark Knight for DC and I don't ever see them even coming close to that level of movie ever again. I can't help but role my eyes at everything they do. AND I am a DC FAN since the 80's, I am not a MARVEL/MCU fan boy...

I have faith in robert Pattinson cause it isn?t shackled to the snyder verse so they can create a new universe. I was very excited for bvs. I hated the idea of an older Batman but I didn?t care. Then those horrible trailers dropped.

I just know that DC can do great things and best marvel and even surpass them. They had a freakin head start!

They had all there characters and they could do mature content cause Disney wasn?t a part of them.

What do they do? They sit on all there characters except Batman and then avengers gets big so they now decide to rush out characters that need sooooo much development and solo movies. Then they get a guy who only makes decent films to headline the universe instead of mapping it out themselves. It?s absolutely ridiculous.

He said yes to every command but when the movie sucked he cried and said it?s not his vision and got a bit of fan fare. This is the second time they are releasing his movie as it intended. Like bro.... just leave.

I understand his daughter died but then he kept saying how his version was better and getting his fans excited so now here we are. Let?s just hope it?s well received

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

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The best thing DC has going is Doom Patrol

 

[jye4ever]

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We are DC fans. We want things to go in the right direction. I want DC to succeed and for a fleshed out universe. I want snyder to prove me wrong but I?m sorry everything I?m hearing about this is a mess and this universe is terribly put together.

Right now DC is the butt of the joker when it comes to hero movies which is completely sad since they had a huge head start before marvel . When I was growing up they were household names. Not freakin groot

Savage

 

[hellgrammite00]

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Best batman? Very debatable. Best visuals and design? Nah. That?s pretty much the only onscreen Wonder Woman and far from the best action. The big fight they had was absolutely awful. Just throwing each other around in a bathroom.

Ugh I hate doing this but I felt more emotion seeing cap fight iron man cause there was atleast history there.

The dark knight , Batman returns , joker , superman 76 , Batman 89 and Batman begins are the best DC movies ever made. Aquaman and Wonder Woman and Shazam are also very good

The two greatest of heroes of all time meet and It?s completely forgettable.

I can't argue with any of this.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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The best thing DC has going is Doom Patrol

 

[ZombieRepublican]

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Best batman? Very debatable. Best visuals and design? Nah. That?s pretty much the only onscreen Wonder Woman and far from the best action. The big fight they had was absolutely awful. Just throwing each other around in a bathroom.

Ugh I hate doing this but I felt more emotion seeing cap fight iron man cause there was atleast history there.

The dark knight , Batman returns , joker , superman 76 , Batman 89 and Batman begins are the best DC movies ever made. Aquaman and Wonder Woman and Shazam are also very good

The two greatest of heroes of all time meet and It?s completely forgettable.

Snyder is one of the best visual directors we have. Man of Steel and BvS look better than almost all Marvel movies. That warehouse fight is one of the best I?ve seen in any CB movie, easily the best for Batman.

I never understood why people held 89 Batman in such high regard. They are pretty bad movies, and not like the comics at all. Jack Nicholson is great, and they?re good if you like goth.


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[Prime Clone]

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Snyder is one of the best visual directors we have. Man of Steel and BvS look better than almost all Marvel movies. That warehouse fight is one of the best I?ve seen in any CB movie, easily the best for Batman.

I concur, though we're obviously in the minority on this.

And while I love the Burtonverse, I'd argue the visuals are the biggest thing going for it. I'd easily place the Snyderverse above it.

 

[ironwez20]

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Snyder is one of the best visual directors we have. Man of Steel and BvS look better than almost all Marvel movies. That warehouse fight is one of the best I?ve seen in any CB movie, easily the best for Batman.

I never understood why people held 89 Batman in such high regard. They are pretty bad movies, and not like the comics at all. Jack Nicholson is great, and they?re good if you like goth.


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Batman is..... goth And yea his visulas are good and all but it means nothing if the story is bad. Just cause something looks pretty doesn't mean it's good.

And how are they bad movies. Snyder movies are nothing like the comics either. I don't remember Batman branding people or being much older than superman. And I damn sure don't remember Lex people some jittery 20 yr old nerd.

Batman acts just like the affleck batman with the killing and all that, he just has a more poseble suit.

 

[Bo Shrek]

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I rewatched MOS the other day after many years. I was enjoying it for the most part until Superman starts fight the girl and big guy and then later with the main villain. I don't know I just check out when building are getting destroyed for no reason. Yes I can understand the villains wrecking S**T up but Superman?? He'll grab the guy and push him through barns, buildings, shops etc. Like c'mon man you grew up here. These building are peoples livelihood. Smashing through offices. It makes Superman inconsiderate to the people he is trying to help. Think of the aftermath unemployment, raised taxes, increase in insurance premiums. Again this is not when the villain is puching Superman, its when Superman is pushing him. It would have been a nice subtle touch if you could see Superman trying to fight without destroying. I don't know maybe a guy in his 40's (me) who is married with children and a mortgage sees things differently!!

 

[matticus]

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I rewatched MOS the other day after many years. I was enjoying it for the most part until Superman starts fight the girl and big guy and then later with the main villain. I don't know I just check out when building are getting destroyed for no reason. Yes I can understand the villains wrecking S**T up but Superman?? He'll grab the guy and push him through barns, buildings, shops etc. Like c'mon man you grew up here. These building are peoples livelihood. Smashing through offices. It makes Superman inconsiderate to the people he is trying to help. Think of the aftermath unemployment, raised taxes, increase in insurance premiums. Again this is not when the villain is puching Superman, its when Superman is pushing him. It would have been a nice subtle touch if you could see Superman trying to fight without destroying. I don't know maybe a guy in his 40's (me) who is married with children and a mortgage sees things differently!!

Don't use logic with movies. Can easily rip all the convenient coincidences in everything. Bad guys with guns would easily mow down Batman in most situations. Now you could have Supes go and save people, but then he is not confronting the bad guys causing the destruction. Plus, he is a young guy and is in over his head in a fight like this. Now whether that is appealing when it comes to Superman, maybe not. Hard to be considerate when someone on your level is trying to kill you. Two of them.

Snyder likes real life consequences. But in media, especially superheroes, snapping necks and face tattoos are not appealing to the general public. Seems like Batman 89 gets away with intentionally dropping bombs and blowing up a building with many goons in it. Point is, you just don't put them in those situations and respect the character.

 

[ZombieRepublican]

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Batman is..... goth And yea his visulas are good and all but it means nothing if the story is bad. Just cause something looks pretty doesn't mean it's good.

And how are they bad movies. Snyder movies are nothing like the comics either. I don't remember Batman branding people or being much older than superman. And I damn sure don't remember Lex people some jittery 20 yr old nerd.

Batman acts just like the affleck batman with the killing and all that, he just has a more poseble suit.

Those movies are corny as heck. Keaton is a horrible Bruce Wayne,

Ignoring the killing, Batfleck is a perfect Bruce Wayne and batman. He?s swuave, smart, intense, broody, a detective and even looks like he jumped out the comics.

I did not say BvS was a perfect movie, I said it has some of the best things of any FC movie by far. Lex is horrible and his plan non-sensical, and Supes somehow became more of a sad guy.


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[ironwez20]

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Those movies are corny as heck. Keaton is a horrible Bruce Wayne,

Ignoring the killing, Batfleck is a perfect Bruce Wayne and batman. He?s swuave, smart, intense, broody, a detective and even looks like he jumped out the comics.

I did not say BvS was a perfect movie, I said it has some of the best things of any FC movie by far. Lex is horrible and his plan non-sensical, and Supes somehow became more of a sad guy.


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Those movies are 100 percent better than all the snyder verse put together I?ll tell you that. And affleck had no definitive features at all. He acted no different from the people that came before.

He just went crazy when Superman showed up. He was unhinged. Branding people and wanting to kill a guy he barely knew . Maybe if we had a better understanding of the character but nah let?s just drop subtle hints to why he?s that way

 

[The Buffinator]

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Those movies are 100 percent better than all the snyder verse put together I?ll tell you that. And affleck had no definitive features at all. He acted no different from the people that came before.

He just went crazy when Superman showed up. He was unhinged. Branding people and wanting to kill a guy he barely knew . Maybe if we had a better understanding of the character but nah let?s just drop subtle hints to why he?s that way

And as for the detective skills they gave him in BvS, let's be honest - as written Lois was a better detective as a reporter than Bruce was as Batman. In both MoS and BvS she was shown to be the more capable investigator. As you've said, Bruce let his emotions cloud his judgement, which is not a Batman most of us recognize.