Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon

[jye4ever]

RM remained # 1 against the onslaught of Christmas movies on Christmas week/weekend and even on Christmas Day!

The dude has a legitimate following no doubt.

 

[nexus]

The movie was an entertaining enough watch, and Snyder's visual style and flair is undeniable. However, it is a mashup of plots, styles and influences from movies like Star Wars, the cheesy but underrated Battle Beyond the Stars, 1984 Dune, and Jupiter Ascending. Given the Planet A to Planet B to Planet C recruitment story structure and lack of any character development beyond Kora this first cut was obviously hacked together for the general release. As folks are pointing out, Netflix and ZS are trying to create a RTSC movement. Which doesn't really happen when both Snyder and Netflix have already confirmed that it will be released. For the most part I imagine there'll be much more blood and gore, maybe a little nudity (I wouldn't be surprised if the spider woman is rerendered with breasts), and some shipboard interaction among the recruits basically telling back stories (like in Jaws) or engaging in banter (like in Aliens). I don't want to see a longer version of the scene with the soldiers and the young farm girl. It rings pretty close to truth during wars and occupations, but was uncomfortable to watch. I did find some of the science to be ridiculous. How is a gas giant beautifully visible at night, but during the day there's a blue sky and no trace of the planet? Yes, you can make the argument that the moon's rotation turns it away from the planet, but not even a partial ring. Not to mention, when the sun is setting towards the end of the movie, wouldn't the planet be rising?
I don't know if this will necessarily turn out to be a big franchise, but I am planning to watch both the extended version and Part 2.

 

[Turtle882]

RM remained # 1 against the onslaught of Christmas movies on Christmas week/weekend and even on Christmas Day!

The dude has a legitimate following no doubt.

Eh, it's only the 9th biggest debut week on Netflix this year. The Jonah Hill movie You People had a stronger opening week.

 

[Wor-Gar]

What's better: Avatar 2 or Rebel Moon...?

 

[jye4ever]

What's better: Avatar 2 or Rebel Moon...?

Rebeltar 3

 

[Wor-Gar]

Avatar doesn't have an Asian steampunk witch.

 

[Turtle882]

But Avatar does make excellent use of Papyrus. What font does Rebel Moon use?

 

[Wor-Gar]

But Avatar does make excellent use of Papyrus. What font does Rebel Moon use?

Someone elses.

 

[Turtle882]

Apparently they went with Arto Condensed Bold. I consider that less offensive than papyrus. I only want to see papyrus if I can order a gyro.

 

[jaztermareal]

What's better: Avatar 2 or Rebel Moon...?

Can I just trade both for a Team America 2?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Papyrus makes me think of that paper and card shop... and also of hippies and incense.

 

[Khev]

What's better: Avatar 2 or Rebel Moon...?

AWOW by a mile. I greatly enjoyed RM but not because it can go toe to toe with truly well told stories. I just liked the characters, tension, world building and cinematography.

 

[Turtle882]

The first Avatar was so bad that I have no plans to watch the second one. One of the worst movies I have ever seen.

 

[Wor-Gar]

It's funny, in its time, Avatar got beat-up that it stole so many cliches (not just Dances with Wolves) but Rebel Moon got Cameron beat there.

I don't think I have ever seen a movie with more blatant "nods" -- be they homage or plagiarism -- than Rebel Moon. Not even the Legos movies can top it.

 

[jye4ever]

Eh, it's only the 9th biggest debut week on Netflix this year. The Jonah Hill movie You People had a stronger opening week.

Looking at those other 8 it seems all have established actors that helped bring viewers plus their plots weren’t as niche.

RM has Ray Fisher and a breakdancer lol

 

[Mandible]

What's better: Avatar 2 or Rebel Moon...?

As much as I don't like Avatar 2, I'd watch it a thousand times again before suffering through RM again. At least it feels like some semblance of a cohesive story (albeit, one I didn't like). RM is an amateur mess on all fronts.

 

[Alatar]

I'd just like to say the extended version of BvS exist and is quite the watch imo.

Just tired of BvS getting thrown under the buss is all. Or perhaps that sucked too for most, idk lol

It really harms the film for the theater cut to have removed a half hour from BvS. But the core reasons that people hate the film, such as the deconstructive elements of Superman doubting whether he should use his powers, and Batman falling morally (like a fallen paladin), Lex Luthor as a millennial with Tourettes and Asperger’s, etc., are unchanged. If one can’t accept the deconstruction and hates that it’s a deconstruction, that won’t be changed by the UE. But if you accept how BvS is a different take on superhero mythology then the UE is the actual film that Snyder intended to release. It was never his plan to release that 2:31 theater release. The studio did that.

 

[Wor-Gar]

AWOW by a mile. I greatly enjoyed RM but not because it can go toe to toe with truly well told stories. I just liked the characters, tension, world building and cinematography.

As much as I don't like Avatar 2, I'd watch it a thousand times again before suffering through RM again. At least it feels like some semblance of a cohesive story (albeit, one I didn't like). RM is an amateur mess on all fronts.

Two completely different points of view, yet... same conclusion.

 

[Alatar]

How is a gas giant beautifully visible at night, but during the day there's a blue sky and no trace of the planet? Yes, you can make the argument that the moon's rotation turns it away from the planet, but not even a partial ring. Not to mention, when the sun is setting towards the end of the movie, wouldn't the planet be rising?

I was curious about that as well. Not ridiculous though. As you identified, Veldt spins on an axis as it orbits the gas giant, Mara. In that scene the surface of Veldt with the village is facing away from Mara and that side of Veldt is facing the sun. Veldt is well outside the rings of Mara evidently.

 

[JacktheRipper]

I do not hate or like Snyder or his movies. They are what they are. I like aspects of his movies and others are just eh. However, it always seems like he never releases the movie he wants. Is he not a big enough name to release a movie that he wants to release? He seems to get big license movies.