Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon

[MeatHookGekko]

As they said at the end of Part 2, next they 1) find Princess Issa, 2) continue to fight the Imperium.

It’ll be interesting to see the explanation for how Issa still lives.

8 Reasons Rebel Moon Part 2 Reviews Are So Bad

Unfortunately, Rebel Moon 2 has been met with equally poor reviews as the first film, currently holding a 13% aggregate score on Rotten Tomatoes

Rebel Moon 2's Characters Are Underdeveloped (Despite Being A Sequel)

Rebel Moon 2 Doesn't Spend Enough Time Exploring Its Characters...AkhilArora criticizing the film for "routinely prioritizing exposition over its horridly underdeveloped characters." The review expands on this, suggesting that "rather than be vulnerable and share how they feel about each other, the characters bring in more exposition."

Rebel Moon's Dialogue Is Poorly Written

Rebel Moon's Dialogue Feels Clunky & Unnatural, Prioritizing Exposition. AkhilArora's review also cited the dialogue, again stating that it focused too heavily on exposition and was otherwise far too simplistic. The review states that "the lines are so generic and devoid of specificity that they could have been written by AI models."....Digital Spy stating, "There's no denying Snyder has created an interesting world – he just forgot to tell an interesting story within it."

Zack Snyder Overdoes The Slow Motion

Slow Motion Is A Staple Of Zack Snyder Movies, But It's Just Too Much...A writer from Flicks criticized a similar aspect, saying, "We must admit now that Snyder has a slow-motion problem, and it's a bug rather than a feature." They add that the use of slow motion in Rebel Moon 2 is so outlandish that it's practically self-parody of Snyder's own work....Collider simply states, "The Scargiver isn't a disaster, but it's something far worse: boring."

Rebel Moon 2 Is Cluttered & Chaotic

Rebel Moon's Action Is Overstimulating And Lacks Narrative Justification..... receiving criticism for being "chaotic and overwrought to the end of burnout" from Geek Vibes Nation. In a sense, this review can be seen as contradictory to Rebel Moon being "boring," but most criticisms align with the idea that the narrative is dull while the action is chaotic and overstimulating.... the cluttered feeling arrives from the excess and lack of narrative compensation. Movie action is more accessible to sell when audiences care about the stakes, as viewers will feel more engaged if they feel some relation to the characters....

Rebel Moon 2 Is Packed With Exposition

Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon World Is Interesting, But The Story Isn't....CBR provided another primarily positive review for Rebel Moon, though they highlighted that "The film still relies on heavy-handed exposition." Exposition is an incredibly tricky film element to balance, though it speaks to Snyder's past criticisms of being unable to pack all of his narratives into shortened run times....

https://screenrant.com/rebel-moon-part-2-scargiver-reviews-bad/

 

[MeatHookGekko]

As they said at the end of Part 2, next they 1) find Princess Issa, 2) continue to fight the Imperium.

It’ll be interesting to see the explanation for how Issa still lives. We do see her life energy leave her body when she is killed, though. And she resurrects a dead bird in Part 1 using the same sparkly light. One of the names of the ancient goddess Issa is “Lifegiver.” Maybe her spirit just leaves her body and at some point if it was left alone before whatever is done with corpses by the Imperium her spirit resurrects her slain body?

Will they? Will the general audience find another "resurrection" interesting? If you set the conditions in the "world building" that death has a complicated overall status within the established "universe", then what happens to the practical stakes involved? What happens to the consequences of choice?

Snyder seemingly kills off a major character in Part 1, but that person is back in Part 2. Now someone dies in a flashback in Part 2, and now we have to see them again in Part 3? There's no real emotional tether to the character. We get no time spent on the complexities of the relationship between Kora, the King, the Queen and the Princess.








Set the rules to your "universe", then stick to them. Establish those rules early. Adhere to them. Again, basic Screen Writing 101. Look how quickly and seamlessly Blade and Whistler covered the practical rules of the vampire universe to newcomer Karen Jensen. If Rebel Moon has some kind of resurrection, then fine. But you have to establish that early, set the parameters and then stay inside those guard rails.

Snyder is more than welcome to keep making it all up as he goes along, neither providing for nor adhering to any logical guard rails, but it's not fundamental storytelling.

 

[T8OO]

Bro you said earlier that the reason bvs is relevant is cause we are talking about on here after all these years tho . Lmao . The back tracking is crazy .

How did I back track?

 

[T8OO]

Will they? Will the general audience find another "resurrection" interesting? If you set the conditions in the "world building" that death has a complicated overall status within the established "universe", then what happens to the practical stakes involved? What happens to the consequences of choice?

Snyder seemingly kills off a major character in Part 1, but that person is back in Part 2. Now someone dies in a flashback in Part 2, and now we have to see them again in Part 3? There's no real emotional tether to the character. We get no time spent on the complexities of the relationship between Kora, the King, the Queen and the Princess.








Set the rules to your "universe", then stick to them. Establish those rules early. Adhere to them. Again, basic Screen Writing 101. Look how quickly and seamlessly Blade and Whistler covered the practical rules of the vampire universe to newcomer Karen Jensen. If Rebel Moon has some kind of resurrection, then fine. But you have to establish that early, set the parameters and then stay inside those guard rails.

Snyder is more than welcome to keep making it all up as he goes along, neither providing for nor adhering to any logical guard rails, but it's not fundamental storytelling.

We are provided with plenty of information spread throughout Part 1 that the Princess has the power of life and that Noble can be resurrected/regrown.

 

[Random_Retard]

Why is that?

I'm sure you've heard that Netflix has a reputation for canceling beloved shows before?
Shows with good reviews that most likely cost a lot less to produce than these films.
I just can't imagine that Neflix will go forward with this project given the overwhelming amount of negative reviews.
I'm not saying this out of spite, it's just my gut feeling...
We're going to get the extended cuts for Part 1 and 2 'cause they've already been shot and Netflix doesn't have much to lose with those... but that will be it. Nothing more.
My guess...

 

[ironwez20]

How did I back track?

By saying comic fandom isn’t relevant but then earlier saying this forum is proof that bvs is still relevant cause we are still talking about it,

 

[ironwez20]

I'm sure you've heard that Netflix has a reputation for canceling beloved shows before?
Shows with good reviews that most likely cost a lot less to produce than these films.
I just can't imagine that Neflix will go forward with this project given the overwhelming amount of negative reviews.
I'm not saying this out of spite, it's just my gut feeling...
We're going to get the extended cuts for Part 1 and 2 'cause they've already been shot and Netflix doesn't have much to lose with those... but that will be it. Nothing more.
My guess...

It’s not even on Netflix trending list for movies anymore.

 

[Mondragon]

Re: from the 1/6 Your most wanted non-live-action character? thread, cause

Now that their symbolic Battle Beyond the Magnificent Starmurai "Jungian Alchemical Archetypes" forms, have manifist in live action, I have to rethink this choice

From the Wakypedia:

Sofia Boutella as Kora/Arthelais, Amaiza Foxtrain - a former soldier who rallies warriors from across the galaxy.
Djimon Hounsou as Titus, Don-Wan Kihotay a knight of a bygone era recruited back into the fight.
Michiel Huisman as Gunnar, Jimm Doshun (The Starkiller Kid) a farmer who joins them in their attempts to defend his homeworld
Charlie Hunnam as Kai, Jaxxon a wascally smuggler and starship pilot, hired for the mission.
Anthony Hopkins as the voice of FE Effie, member of a race of mechanicals.
Staz Nair as Tarak, Hedgi the Quill a noble being-turned-feral warrior with piercing weapons and natural affinity to the animal realm.

Tawau-class freighter - The Rabbit's Foot N-class freighter

@Alatar

 

[Alatar]

Syl Abdul breaks down the numbers for Rebel Moon Part 1 and 2. It’s performed well!

 

[T8OO]

By saying comic fandom isn’t relevant but then earlier saying this forum is proof that bvs is still relevant cause we are still talking about it,

I said superhero fandom isn't the general audience.

 

[T8OO]

It’s not even on Netflix trending list for movies anymore.

It's no 5 here.

 

[ironwez20]

I said superhero fandom isn't the general audience.

But you said earlier that bvs is relevant cause we talk about it on here

 

[T8OO]

But you said earlier that bvs is relevant cause we talk about it on here

Correct

 

[ironwez20]

Correct

Holy … nvm

 

[Sassafras]

Set the rules to your "universe", then stick to them. Establish those rules early. Adhere to them. Again, basic Screen Writing 101. Look how quickly and seamlessly Blade and Whistler covered the practical rules of the vampire universe to newcomer Karen Jensen. If Rebel Moon has some kind of resurrection, then fine. But you have to establish that early, set the parameters and then stay inside those guard rails.

Snyder is more than welcome to keep making it all up as he goes along, neither providing for nor adhering to any logical guard rails, but it's not fundamental storytelling.

To be fair tho, comic book movies regularly strain themselves so that being dead is like taking a smoke break;

And the beloved LOTR has Gandalf "being sent back" without ever explaining how that happened in the films (tho maybe everyone is supposed to know that, from like reading) and Arwen is "dying" for no reason at all; when all the other elves are fine....

So basically universe rules only need to be followed if the rest of the production/characters are *&^%%%. If everyone is happy and buying figures and statues people are cool with it.

I'm expecting the announcement of the re-incarnated Kylo Ren at any time, for reasons.

 

[T8OO]

It’s not even on Netflix trending list for movies anymore.

 

[Wor-Gar]

How does Netflix monetize views?

If its subscription based, how many new people "subscribed" for Rebel Moon?

 

[ironwez20]

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Well Netflix is lying cause I just checked and it was number 8 on the top movie list. Unless you got that from a Snyder fanboy page

 

[T8OO]

140 million views for both combined.

Well Netflix is lying cause I just checked and it was number 8 on the top movie list. Unless you got that from a Snyder fanboy page

If Netflix is lying where could you get the information? The image is for the week ending 28th April.

https://www.netflix.com/tudum/top10?week=2024-04-28

 

[T8OO]

How does Netflix monetize views?

If its subscription based, how many new people "subscribed" for Rebel Moon?

We evaluate the performance of our originals several ways. We measure the impact of our originals on our ability to acquire new members and engagement, which is correlated with retention of existing members. We also seek reasonable economics relative to other exclusive content on a cost per hour viewed. We also take into account critical acclaim and awards for our originals and the impact original series may have on enhancing our brand and attractiveness of our service which helps with member growth.

Looking at it here, Rebel Moon obviously doesn't have the critical acclaim. However, it does a good ratio on a cost per hour viewed.

IF Rebel Moon is classed as one production. The 'views' and 'hours viewed' would put it at roughly No6 and No11 of all time. And there are two more releases to come yet from the same production.