Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon

[jye4ever]

 

[jye4ever]

Will the admiral become a Vader!

I do like that Bellasarius used Kora to infiltrate the royal family.

I hope Nemesis splits her arm into 4 like Grievous did with his lightsabers lol

 

[jye4ever]

Ed Skrein says the extended cut is absolutely needed to see Snyder’s preferred vision.

Summer release as per ZS!

Back to back hard R he just said in an interview.

ZS said the R cut will be his homage to Paul Verhoeven Robocop with violence taking center stage and that it’s a different feeling movie than the current one.

 

[ironwez20]

Jeez here we go again. “No that wasn’t my real vision! This 5 hr r rated cut was”

Then why did you make this version?

“Idk”

 

[MeatHookGekko]

Don't get it either. It's totally ok to express your dislike but when your'e repeating what you don't like again and again it develops into a never ending rant and it just comes over as obsessive. Same thing happens over in the Disney Star Wars threads all the time. Same people, same complaints for the billionth time.

Let's try fixing Rebel Moon in fifteen minutes. Instead of what I don't like about it, I'll offer an alternative solution

Spoiler

Admiral Noble ( aka bad guy with the ridiculous bowl haircut and tentacle girlfriend) commands a flagship that is carrying multiple high value prisoners. ( General Titus, Tarak the quasi Bravestarr guy, the Bloodaxe siblings, Nemesis the sword lady and Jimmy the thoughtful robot) He's bringing them to his leader because one of them, no one knows which one, has the location of Kora. She's either the sister or daughter of Motherworld leader Balisarius. He needs her because he's dying and her organs are the only ones that will work to save his life. She ran after he killed their adoptive father, the former King of Motherworld ( the Princess Bride guy)

Kora pays Jax Teller Solo, a ruffian high level black market pilot, to fly her to intercept the flagship and break out the prisoners, that way the person who knows her location, plus the location of her "resistance" won't be able to talk/be tortured for the information. During the breakout, everything goes wrong, chaos happens, lots of people die, and the flagship crashes on a nondescript planet. It splits in half. Noble and his survivors are enough of a fighting force to overrun Kora and the prisoners, whose half of the ship crashes near the farming village.

Jax Teller Solo's ship is badly damaged in the fight in space and is still in space. Needs lots of repairs to fix it well enough to drop inside the planet to rescue Kora and escape before Motherworld military reinforcements arrive. Kora cuts a deal with the prisoners. Fight with her and defend the village long enough for the USS Sons Of Anarchy Falcon can come to rescue them. And get a ride off the planet and escape before a large portion of the Motherworld fleet shows up and kills them all. Kora points out that they are only still alive now because no one knew for sure which one knew her real location. Now that she's 'found', these prisoners have no more value and are ripe for immediate execution. And they owe the villagers, who saved their lives from the crash.

In the process of defending the village, we get to know the prisoners and their backstories. We get to understand their skills, weaknesses and their problems with each other. Head farmer Gunnar and the village Mayor in Billionaire Mike Prince from The Strain argue about the best strategy. Baldy wants to surrender the prisoners and village and be spared, it's not their fight. Head farmer has the hots for Kora and thinks otherwise.

Three major battles. The first in space that opens the film. Just straight up carnage and death. Lots of spectacle and fury. Second battle is a smaller Motherworld force being repelled to defend the village. These are the Motherworld troops who survived the crash on the back half of the ship with the prisoners. This fight allows us to see the skills of the individual prisoners/fighters. The third fight is the major one at the end with Kora and her new Magnificent Seven plus the villagers against Bowl Cut evil guy and his much larger force.

You can have the same sidebar beats - Nemesis being a tortured ex mother who lost her kids and fights a spider woman ( used to torture prisoners) . Bravestarr being an animal whisperer. The Bloodaxe brother dying at the end. His reluctant sister now is invested in the future fight. Jimmy's search for understanding humans with the relatively hot farm girl. Jax Teller Solo being a traitor ( He was trying to "deliver" Kora to the Motherworld) . You can add some scenes early in the film where Noble is torturing and killing people to find more information about Kora's location. This allows pure exposition to talk about the prisoners, one by one, on their backgrounds and their threat to the Motherworld ( with immediate flashback montages highlighting their skill)

Leaves plenty of room for a Part 2. The new "Seven" escape, but for how long. Now they are stuck together. They realize their chances to live are better together than alone. But maybe make head farmer Gunnar less of a total simp. And in Part 2, you can cover more about Kora being trained as a soldier, falling in love with a fellow soldier who got killed, being "used" to indirectly cause the assassination of the King, etc, etc. Last scene is Noble sending a video feed to Kora. While she escaped, she broke her promise to the villagers to take them with her and her new crew. She had to leave without them to save herself. Then Noble kills them all in front of her on video. Farm girl and her new boy band former soldier boyfriend watch in horror as her entire family is massacred. They made it to the ship with Gunnar, but no other villagers.

And you can still have a scene where Corey Stoll gets his head caved in, which should please the general audience plenty. The after credits scene shows that one of the "prisoners" is a Motherworld plant. They are a notorious "criminal" in that universe, but they were always controlled opposition by the Motherworld to help smoke out Kora. A presentation to lull any resistance into slipping up and revealing themselves. Who is the real traitor among them now?

Fifteen minutes. Fixed. Nothing ground breaking. But better fights, more efficient exposition, better set up for future films, better incentive for everyone to fight the Motherworld, better motives for Kora's value and her pathology, better pathway to show the Motherworld as something other than mustache twirling cutout villains ( You fail and you die in this universe, they might not want to kill the villagers, but it's these peasant strangers or their own lives instead, not much of a choice)

 

[T8OO]

Ummm aren’t you guys the ones that say “make our voices heard”. “Spam the hashtag” I mean of course people aren’t gonna like you. Come on man I’ve seen you on Twitter you know what I’m talking about. You yourself may not do it but Snyder spamming and trolling is huge. And they hate it when you say you don’t like his films. Like seriously. You can just say I don’t like them and boom all of sudden “you don’t understand it”

Let's say this is the case. Are you incapable of having nothing to do with it and/or muting it or do you just sit there boiling with rage and bring it here?
People fighting for something they want that doesn't include you shouldn't have you this wound up about it.

People want Alita 2, I don't care. If they want to use their social media presence to ask for something they love more power to them.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who understand it and still don't like it, for me I see a lot that not only don't understand it, I'm not sure they've even watched it.
Here is one just from yesterday

 

[T8OO]

Jeez here we go again. “No that wasn’t my real vision! This 5 hr r rated cut was”

Then why did you make this version?

“Idk”

So Netflix gets two releases.

 

[T8OO]

Might have to check this out to see how bad it is.

It would be funny if after I watch it I love it and argue with everyone how much of visionary Snyder is

Can you hold this position for over 2 hours?

 

[DioramaMaker]

Homeboy is 100% capitalizing on his ZSJL success with his "director's cut". He's even got cast members doing the "you just have to see Zacks *true* vision" thing. 100% planned from day 1, baked into the contract.

Bro it's so silly it's brilliant. Movie well received? Here's MORE, go watch it again.
Movie poorly received? Nah you just don't get it, it's ackshully good if you watch my supermegaultra cut™.

It's like when companies release a game and immediately announce the expansion pack, which is clearly just a chunk of the base game, already developed.

But, after dealing with what this man did - whatever dude, let him be. Gives him some purpose, gives people jobs...more power to him.

 

[jaztermareal]

As much as I think Snyder is overrated, I am not ever against alternate or extended cuts of films, in fact, I wish we could get more. Like the original cut of the 2011 Thing with the original practical effects. I want that film but alas it is hidden away in some studio vault. If a movie is bad it is often due to studio meddling and editing of runtimes to fit more showings during theatrical run, so director's cuts will always be something I am interested in seeing.

Deadpool 2 had a double dip with once upon a deadpool the pg13 cut which was actually great fun. I wish more movies got R rated cuts along side the usual PG13 cuts.

So yeah, even if I think Snyder is overrated and even if I hate Rebel Moon when I get around to watching it I will be happy an extended R rated cut exists and consider it a win-win-win scenario that should happen more often.


Release the original practical effects version of the Thing 2011! the original cut of Rogue One! The original cut of Closer with Natalies Port-hole! Release them all! Drive people to cinemas/streaming platforms! What are you waiting for?

 

[jye4ever]

I think it was a smart business decision for Netflix to hire him and then fund his movie to be 4 different versions as a gimmick to bring more eyeballs to their platform.

Dune was bland and lifeless.

RM was definitely rushed and predictable but also entertaining.

 

[ironwez20]

Let's say this is the case. Are you incapable of having nothing to do with it and/or muting it or do you just sit there boiling with rage and bring it here?
People fighting for something they want that doesn't include you shouldn't have you this wound up about it.

People want Alita 2, I don't care. If they want to use their social media presence to ask for something they love more power to them.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who understand it and still don't like it, for me I see a lot that not only don't understand it, I'm not sure they've even watched it.
Here is one just from yesterday
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lol I’m not boiling with rage. Even if you mute it you can still see certain stuff. You know this. And that tweet is hilarious

 

[T8OO]

lol I’m not boiling with rage. Even if you mute it you can still see certain stuff. You know this. And that tweet is hilarious

Mute, don't engage and it goes away. That I do know.

It is hilarious, proves my point too.

 

[jye4ever]

I know this is going to sound crazy coming from me but I feel that sex scenes in a movie are a waste of valuable screen time.

Violence i’m good with though.

Nudity is different then sex if you need to show naked characters that’s fine it helps create a certain tone.

People criticize Snyder for being a blunt instrument but i’ll say this his android was WAY MORE interesting than anything from The Creator!

 

[ironwez20]

Mute, don't engage and it goes away. That I do know.

It is hilarious, proves my point too.

I tried muting Kim Kardashian and blue face and chrisean rock from my TL and I still see those idiots lol. I wish it worked better.

 

[DarkChocobi]

seriously have no idea what t f did I just watch. This film is beyond redemption and I don't care about that 18+ cut version.

 

[Dave_W]

I know this is going to sound crazy coming from me but I feel that sex scenes in a movie are a waste of valuable screen time.

But I wanna see how John Connor was made!

 

[Alatar]

I’m opting out of responding to the toxicity about this movie here, lol. But for those that would like to discuss the film in a civil, mature, friendly way with me I invite them to do so either at reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Snyderverse/s/NA8aHuxD89

https://www.reddit.com/r/Snyderverse/s/DYUOStwGHN

https://www.reddit.com/r/Snyderverse/s/Pxxxptdskz

Or on “X”:

https://x.com/The_Snyderverse/status/1736202646724243932?s=20

https://x.com/The_Snyderverse/status/1738936948410949889?s=20

https://x.com/The_Snyderverse/status/1738967836599480774?s=20

 

[Mogli]

Didn't Reeve Superman kill Zod after breaking his hand? Strange to see that as a negative against Snyder all the time. And Cavill was actually reluctant to do it lol. Even Keaton Batman killed tons of people.

 

[jaztermareal]

Didn't Reeve Superman kill Zod after breaking his hand? Strange to see that as a negative against Snyder all the time. And Cavill was actually reluctant to do it lol. Even Keaton Batman killed tons of people.

Yeah, I had no issue with superman killing in that moment. I had other issues with the film but that bit didn't bother me