Zack Snyder's SUCKER PUNCH

[devilof76]

Ehhhhh......

People thought the story was being told with dialogue.

 

[jye4ever]

If Jar Jar Binks was in it, would've it been worse?

 

[Silent December]

Jesus f___. I haven't walked out of a movie in that condition since Passion of the Christ. The only difference was that Sucker Punch found its moment of redemption, where as the former did not. Atleast someone was saved at the end of this hell.

It's going to take me the better part of a month to process what I just saw. I have zero comprehension of how anyone could think it was shallow, trite, empty or otherwise brainless. If art is supposed to elicit a visceral reaction, then I got it, and I'm not particularly concerned if others did not. I just had my world rocked, and it wasn't on account of tits, ass and epic action sequences. I thought the action was great, and I thought the girls were hot without being the least bit slutty, but eye candy is the last thing I'd call any of it---I have too much respect for the character who dreamt it.

I need a drink.

see, this is why I love this effin guy!

 

[sifu74]

Abbie Cornish in her outfit
I think she could make a great Lois Lane.

 

[Biojex]

Saw it. Liked it.

 

[The ill Jedi]

So, finally my thoughts on Sucker Punch. I enjoyed the hell out of it. Could it have been better? Sure. Was it horrible? No way. Was it a masterpiece? Definitely not. But, to anyone who saw the trailers or saw any marketing materials for this film - you knew exactly what you were going into. I loved all the action sequences, some of the other parts of the film dragged a bit - but overall it didn't take away from the final film. I didn't leave the theater with a very strong impression, but that doesn't mean I wasn't impressed.

After seeing the film, Amber is still my favorite. Baby doll, Sweet pea and Rocket were all great. Blondie was bleh. I wish Hamm was in the film for more than 3 minutes as well.

I don't get this statement.

Saw the movie last night. I don't understand the extreme opinions from this movie. It's interesting to see people either love it or hate it. I thought it was great. I liked the story, yes their could have been more character development aside from Babydoll but to say that you couldnt care for all the girls is somewhat surprising. I cared about what happen because of where they were at, in a mental institution, they went to fantasy world to get the task they were suppose to do easier for them. The action scene were awesome and even the music fit perfectly. I'm not gonna say if you didn't like this movie your stupid, but I'm just surprised at the extreme hate this movie is getting

Loved it. Let me say that again.

LOVED IT!

I wasn't expecting a deep story, nor was I expecting deep character development. I expected Mr. Snyder to take me on a ride. After hearing a few people talk about lack of plot and lack of character development, I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of both in the film. Z Snyder never promised me a Schindler's List or even a Pulp Fiction for that matter, and I didn't expect a Chris Nolan masterpiece. What I got was a thrill ride, and I did find myself caring about the characters. As many here have already stated, I don't quite get the hate. Someone in the theater said to her friends 'Worst movie of the year' as she was leaving. I thought to myself, 'She must not get out much'. Comparing this film to Star Wars, Terminator or other genre greats is probably futile, because we each bring different things to our own movie watching experience.

Perhaps my only disappointment with the movie was that a friend that had already seen it casually dropped a reference to the movie

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'Brazil' so I knew what the denouement was going to be fifteen minutes into it.

Other than that, I had a great experience.

This isn't going to be a film for everyone. If you're favorite film is 'The Notebook' or 'Sophie's Choice', this probably isn't going to do it for you, but then again, if those are your film picks, what are you doing on this forum anyway. For most of us here, there should be something enjoyable in the film for everyone, just don't go in thinking this is going to be the end-all-be-all of fantasy movies. That said, I'd still rather watch this than Avatar.

And yes, I wish I had the opportunity to sculpt all of the girls! C'est la vie!

Saw it. Liked it.

Glad to see some folks could actually enjoy it and not analyze and dissect every little bit of it. For ****'s sake.

 

[psyberiantiger]

Saw it... Can't say I'm a big fan. Was expecting better from Zack. The plus side... at least it was not a 20 year old boys fantasy.

 

[fosing]

Saw it... Can't say I'm a big fan. Was expecting better from Zack. The plus side... at least it was not a 20 year old boys fantasy.

....or was it?

 

[Khev]

Judging from the reactions it seems "Sucker Punch" is this year's "The Last Airbender?" I haven't seen either, just going by trailers and audience response. Still looking forward to catching it on TNT in a couple of years just for the visuals alone.

 

[devilof76]

Glad to see some folks could actually enjoy it and not analyze and dissect every little bit of it. For ****'s sake.

I would enjoyed it much more if the ending...

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...hadn't been so goddamned sad.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Bigoted?
Biased maybe...

Yup. I didn't mean just in this thread, but generally across the forum there are a lot of people that post that consider their opinion as a fact.

Saw it today - what a glorious failure.
In 300 and Watchmen Snyder was working with 2 of the best talents in comics (although Miller's writing isn't nearly on par with Moore's) but with Suckerpunch he shows that he needs to team with a decent writer and/or a producer that can rein him in (which we'll get with Man of Steel, Thank Rao!).

I'm sure that Snyder would say that there's a lot going on beneath the surface of this film but this theatrical cut doesn't really make a lot of sense on any level. The films wants to be every film and genre - Steampunk, WWI, WWII, Lord of the Rings, Moulin Rouge, Inception, Brazil - but fails to deliver except on the visual level. I wouldn't want to intellectualize it too much - although I'm sure that's what Snyder would want - he'd probably say that it could be something different for every viewer - but with no cohesive plot or characterizations there's no real way to take that away.

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I think what he probably intends is that there is only one real character - Sweetpea/Babydoll and all the girls are just different aspects of the one character and she had to sacrifice her innocence (Babydoll) in order to escape. But this doesn't really work for the character(s) nor make for a satisfying ending.

But I have to say the art direction was magnificent and I will be following Emily Browning's career with enthusiasm. Also Snyder is an excellent action director - the action scenes were exciting and original.

Nail on head.

 

[hunnipot85]

I would enjoyed it much more if the ending...

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...hadn't been so goddamned sad.

Yeah, the ending

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was sad. I did like that Blue got arrested and Carla Gugino's character seems like she was going to change things and treat the girls better than they were being treated. It was just a bit too late - if it happened before Babydolls lobotomy it would've been better.

Wish Amber lived too - didn't see that coming. Would've liked to see her escape, with Sweet Pea and Babydoll, or just with Sweet Pea if Babydoll sacrificed herself still.

 

[viezure]

I saw it yesterday at IMAX and i give it an 9/10. Eye candy galore, usual for a zack snyder movie. Nazi zombies, samurais, robots, slow motion and beautiful atmosphere. I wanted for it to last longer.

Here's a sneak peak i did in the theater https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4fY9ZMCY-w

 

[Darkseed]

I wanted for it to last longer.

What she said

Perhaps if I didn't fall asleep (twice), I may liked it better. The action sequences and zombie / samurai character designs were cool. Just the parts in between I faded to black. Walked out of the theater feeling refreshed, maybe that deserves an extra point or two.

 

[devilof76]

I'm sure that Snyder would say that there's a lot going on beneath the surface of this film but this theatrical cut doesn't really make a lot of sense on any level.

How does it not make sense?

The films wants to be every film and genre - Steampunk, WWI, WWII, Lord of the Rings, Moulin Rouge, Inception, Brazil - but fails to deliver except on the visual level.

Deliver what?

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The action sequences were the overlay of glory that Baby Doll gave to her escape attempt, and probably only experienced by her in the moment before it all ended. The brothel layer was a shield to make the reality (guards sexually abusing the inmates) less bleak. Her dance was nothing but the initiative she took to distract while the others who were in better positions to succeed acquired the things she needed for her plan.

I wouldn't want to intellectualize it too much - although I'm sure that's what Snyder would want - he'd probably say that it could be something different for every viewer - but with no cohesive plot or characterizations there's no real way to take that away.

How was it incohesive?

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On every level, the same thing happened. She tried to get them all out, her plan failed for everyone except Sweet Pea. She sacrificed herself because she knew Sweet Pea wasn't broken. Baby Doll was. She had nothing to lose, and she was going to achieve as much as she could in the face of impossible odds before she escaped the pain forever.

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I think what he probably intends is that there is only one real character - Sweetpea/Babydoll and all the girls are just different aspects of the one character and she had to sacrifice her innocence (Babydoll) in order to escape. But this doesn't really work for the character(s) nor make for a satisfying ending.

That is over-intellectualizing it.

The ending wasn't satisfying. I don't think it was supposed to be. I think it was supposed to hurt, which it did if you cared about any of them. I don't know how much characterization was needed to care about all five. They all deserved to be freed from their hell. If you were rooting for them at all, it should have been easy to feel something.

But I have to say the art direction was magnificent and I will be following Emily Browning's career with enthusiasm. Also Snyder is an excellent action director - the action scenes were exciting and original.

I'm glad I wasn't hallucinating how good the art and action were

The criticisms I've heard about how the action had no meaning missed the point of what it meant to Baby Doll. On the base level, I'm sure the events were pretty banal. She used the blind lust of the people who needed to be distracted against them. On the highest level, they were all performing epic acts of courage.

But there was no dancing, and no fighting. There was just a handful of abused girls trying to escape an asylum.

 

[Bannister]

Glad to see some folks could actually enjoy it and not analyze and dissect every little bit of it. For ****'s sake.

When you put out a movie that has multiple fantasy worlds in the head of a girl at a mental hospital, you are asking for it to be analyzed to death. You don't make movies like this, if you don't want them analyzed. If this were just a straight up fantasy movie where these girls were some team carrying out a mission, people would probably accept that and just enjoy it because it looks pretty. When you add those extra layers, people are always going to try to dissect what everything means.

 

[CelticPredator]

I found the ending to be bittersweat. So I didnt mind it. It was what it was, but I didnt think it was flat out bleak. With the last shot, and line.

 

[Eiko82]

I saw the movie this weekend and felt a bit disappointed.

The visuals ands action scenes were awesome but the story let me down a bit. Some bits felt very rushed. I would've liked to see certain bits better developed. I did like the ending a lot tho. Very bittersweet.

 

[The ill Jedi]

I would enjoyed it much more if the ending...

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...hadn't been so goddamned sad.

Yeah, that was really the only thing that 'bothered' me about it.

But the

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sacrifice Baby Doll made to save Sweet Pea makes it better since Baby Doll really had nothing to live for and Sweet Pea did.

Nail on head.

You like the 'Resident Evil' movies, please don't say anything.

When you put out a movie that has multiple fantasy worlds in the head of a girl at a mental hospital, you are asking for it to be analyzed to death. You don't make movies like this, if you don't want them analyzed. If this were just a straight up fantasy movie where these girls were some team carrying out a mission, people would probably accept that and just enjoy it because it looks pretty. When you add those extra layers, people are always going to try to dissect what everything means.

Meh, I thought the movie was pretty straight forward, nothing really to be analyzed in my opinion.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

You like the 'Resident Evil' movies, please don't say anything.

Someone that plays Gears of War shouldn't be talking either.