The Crow reboot with Bill Skarsgard

jye4ever said:

This might actually kill the studio, they are definitely not Disney or WB size.

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Luisenigma1 said:

Honestly if they wanted to do a Crow movie. They either should have done a true 1 for 1 version of the comic. Or done a different version from one of the comics. My favorite would have been if they did the one comic where a jewish concentration camp prisoner and his family are killed during ww2 by some sadistic SS Nazis and the crow brings him back to take revenge and hunt and kill all those involved. At least it would be different enough of a story that we haven't seen before.

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imagine a crow movie in the style of sin city or 300.
how amazing that would be. full 80s goth look with the mullet for Eric. I'm being serious. it would be so amazing.

I loved SW.

KK killed SW!

There’s my Crow story!

also. the ONE time where a female casting would make perfect sense. the one time where it could have worked well.
make a female crow, a lady crow. the comics and the tv show had women crow characters.

imagine how awesome it could have been. I'm not joking either. imagine a sin city style movie with a lady crow. come on .... that would be really nice.
black and white noir movie with Sidney Sweeney as the crow....

JacktheRipper said:

This thing has released!? I know I'm not the demographic, but damn did this have any promotion? It's August. Just in time to connect it to summer? Back to School? American Labor Day? California Admission Day?

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For a film like this to breakthrough, it needs a killer soundtrack. A concept like The Crow has to be very visual. And without a ton of raw acting firepower and a basic level script, you need something else to uplift the film. The 1994 version of The Crow is a dramatically different film without it's soundtrack and score. And it's a much harder film to have succeed without Alex Proyas' consistent way above the baseline visual aesthetics.

Interstellar, IMHO, is the most current high profile test case of how you can carry a bad script with other elements moving at a phenomenal scale to uplift the entire production. Interstellar has an incredible amount of raw acting firepower. Even in the smallest of roles. And it needed it because that script was truly ugly. Hans Zimmer saved that film, he saved Nolan's bacon on that one, because it was the soundtrack and score that elevated so much of Interstellar into an actual "experience" On the other end of the scale, Zach Braff's Garden State was a low budget film where the well curated soundtrack gave the film some added punch that was not quite there otherwise.

When James O'Barr created the graphic novel, the base concept was more of a reflection of storytelling at that time. A snapshot to a previous generation and how they conceived protagonists and tragedy. In a modern case, IMHO, it would have been simpler to make Eric Draven and Shelley Webster's deaths as morally ambiguous. I.E. the people who killed them were not right, but they had a point. Doing that would reset the narrative away from the love story element, which frankly is not something you want to rely on to hook an audience if you have essentially a non actor being asked to do half the heavy lifting ( FKA Twigs is not an actress by trade, so there's a struggle there)

The current casual movie going audience in America is simply going to be hyper reactive to any oppressed/oppressor themed storylines. I don't even know if you could release something like The Hunger Games in today's current industry climate. The ideal is that all the major factors of a film production knock it out of the park. But if one phase doesn't, there has to be a logical tradeoff where you can compensate for it. For example, if Bill Skarsgard gave the acting performance of his life, and critics loved it, but the action, visuals and soundtrack all fail, then it's not going to help the overall impact desired.

If it was up to me, if I had to manage an actual writers room on The Crow, I'd make the main character ( not Eric Draven anymore but someone else) a child molester. I.E. he's not here to kill monsters. He's here to show he's the biggest monster. I'm sure some of that might be off the rails for some here. But it wouldn't be boring. And it would play to Skarsgard's actual established strengths. The current Crow concept unfortunately has a express elevator to boring and it happens real fast.

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Khev said:

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borderlands felt almost exactly like Jumanji 2 welcome to the jungle or Jumanji 3 .
a silly loud generic action movie. borderlands was cringe but silly. high energy. funny. looney like tank girl.
I honestly don't understand the hate. borderlands was like a fast and furious movie in how generic their plots are
or transformers sequels. loud. fast paced. dumb. goofy.

this movie the crow feels depressing and uncomfortable and just ugly and bad.

jye4ever said:

I loved SW.

KK killed SW!

There’s my Crow story!

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Sorry. No revenge for you. You'll have to go through arbitration since you signed up for disney+.

crows said:

The crow feels depressing and uncomfortable and just ugly and bad.

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So, just like the original then? The only category of people who truly seemed to enjoy that movie back in the day were those "dark soul" kids, who unironically dressed like the main character and listened to The Cure. When even Bill Skarsgård fails to spark an interest in your franchise I'd say It's pretty much dead...

crows said:

borderlands felt almost exactly like... welcome to the jungle. a silly loud generic action movie... cringe but high energy. funny. looney like tank girl.... like a fast and furious movie... or transformers sequel. loud. fast paced. dumb. goofy.

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I must say thank you for submitting yourself to all this horror on behalf of our community. If I were to watch the movies you've listed above in one sitting, you'd litterally be able to hear the size of my stroke...

wormlander said:

So, just like the original then? The only category of people who truly seemed to enjoy that movie back in the day were those "dark soul" kids, who unironically dressed like the main character and listened to The Cure. When even Bill Skarsgård fails to spark an interest in your franchise I'd say It's pretty much dead...

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its different, there's a difference. for one, the couple in the original one is likable and charming and their relationship seemed charming. Eric and the girl had good chemistry even if we saw them for a few minutes in flashbacks. ( this one seems the opposite)
the original had innocence with the little girl. this one doesn't.
stuff like that.

crows said:

its different, there's a difference. for one, the couple in the original one is likable and charming and their relationship seemed charming. Eric and the girl had good chemistry even if we saw them for a few minutes in flashbacks. ( this one seems the opposite)
the original had innocence with the little girl. this one doesn't.
stuff like that.

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Well, To be fair I never was the target audience for this. I'm not even a fan of revenge movies in general and back when the first Crow movie was released, comic-book adaptations were still about as sexy as getting a wet mop shoved in your face...

wormlander said:

Well, To be fair I never was the target audience for this. I'm not even a fan of revenge movies in general and back when the first Crow movie was released, comic-book adaptations were still about as sexy as getting a wet mop shoved in your face...

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i know that the original is like a dark dirty gothic semi horror movie. takes place at night in the rain.
but there's a lot of hope and innocence and vulnerability in that movie coming from the other characters. the cop guy and the little girl, they have some very powerful and Important scenes in it

the characters in this one seem cynical and really unlikable.

crows said:

the characters in this one seem cynical and really unlikable.

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I hear ya, The last thing I quit watching because of annoying/unlikable characters was the Ted TV-series...

I don't understand why Hollywood thinks this story needs to be modernized to resonate. There's so much nostalgia for the '80s and '90s now, I'm sure a period film would've gotten more attention.

Rotfish said:

I don't understand why Hollywood thinks this story needs to be modernized to resonate. There's so much nostalgia for the '80s and '90s now, I'm sure a period film would've gotten more attention.

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its even a miracle that it got made to begin with. ( as bad as it is) with all the trouble behind production, in surprised it was actually made.


and they chose the worst way to do it, they chose the suicide squad way to do it

I don’t know why they changed the look so much. The original look is so iconic. Seriously this movie feels like it was made for the twilight era 2010s .

crows said:

i know that the original is like a dark dirty gothic semi horror movie. takes place at night in the rain.
but there's a lot of hope and innocence and vulnerability in that movie

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It's naive. Like a black-clad, leather-wearing, posturing, snarling but scared and hopeful teenager. Not sure it'd get made today where almost everything is dressed up in post-modern hyper self-awareness and winking, ironic sarcasm. Even Eric was really quite innocent for a murderous undead avenging spirit.

I watched Spider-Man 2 the other day and it was shocking how wholesome and earnest it was. Compare with contemporary MCU being too cool for everything.

ironwez20 said:

I don’t know why they changed the look so much. The original look is so iconic. Seriously this movie feels like it was made for the twilight era 2010s .

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Nothing would’ve worked.

They made carbon copy sequels and they failed.

They changed it up completely.

They failed.

It’s dead, they need to stop.

Just make more ****o those seem to do good.

It's the 30th anniversary of the original film. They should have just re-released that in theaters.

Khev said:

It's the 30th anniversary of the original film. They should have just re-released that in theaters.

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they do that for Halloween. its most likely planned for this year.