Jazzinc 1/6 Batman 1989 Batmobile

JazzInc · Sep 14, 2024

Nick D said:
No one said anything about canceling, I said I’d wait it out to see a bit. Why is that the ultimatum here, I haven’t disrespected any one of you, do the same for me. I want this product, possibly more than most, I don’t have a large collection.

Joost, what more of a compliment do you need than your ‘89 vehicle being the top shelf centerpiece in a collection? Those have been the intentions.

I just wanted to know if the vertical wheel well indentations in that photo were actually that significant and if there were various degrees of said indentations throughout each unit made. Or if that is in fact due to a bit of lighting and a bad unit from the batch.

My concern is because we have seen various degrees of those indentations in different spots per unit, is that just uncontrollable and you’ll weed out any of the ones with significant issues?

I don’t know how to answer that anymore than I already have. There will be some indentations and I have made a video and there is over 30 minutes of videos from other Youtubers out there where you can see how it looks. And I am serious and not being disrespectful when I say that if you think it will bother you, please allow us to cancel it and let’s not waste a lot of money and time sending this unit to you when you know that will be a breaking point. Like I said above.

Seriously, anyone who has a problem with the cars after seeing these videos, just email me and we will work it out. I don’t want anyone to have our product when he or she doesn’t want to. Email me at joostjazzincdioramas.com.

Nick D · Sep 14, 2024

I want the product, I just wanted to know what qualified for an exchange? That’s all my point was ever about here.

Space Jockey · Sep 14, 2024

Nick D said:
I want the product, I just wanted to know what qualified for an exchange? That’s all my point was ever about here.

They. Are. All. The. Same.

Nick D · Sep 14, 2024

Space Jockey said:
They. Are. All. The. Same.

I hope so, I’m not looking to hate this.

If what’s in Joost’s video is what we shall receive, I have no complaints.

batmanfan23 · Sep 14, 2024

Nick D said:
I hope so, I’m not looking to hate this.

If what’s in Joost’s video is what we shall receive, I have no complaints.

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What joost is saying is that all vehicles you have seen all have acceptable levels of indentation to him. You could receive one you perceive as acceptable you might receive one you perceive as unacceptable. Most likely they are all the same but look different depending on the angle of light. The worst case you have seen- assume you will be able to see that from certain angles and lighting conditions on the unit you get. Judging by your comments I would highly suggest you cancel your order.

dondiegomasked · Sep 14, 2024

There are about 2,500 ‘89 Batmobiles coming down the line with almost *everybody* else taking a wait-and-see attitude, but a very small but very vocal minority has taken it upon themselves to harass Joost continually about an issue he has repeatedly addressed. That is sad.

My fear is that after all of this unnecessary hub-bub about minuscule indentations ( not to mention the Catwoman uproar going on) Joost may just throw his hands up and walk away.

I would urge Joost to cut back on the user input for the sake of his own mental health. This is especially true for the “which three of the four heads would you vote for” Catwoman poll. DON’T GIVE US A CHOICE! YOU SHOULD DECIDE FOR US! I trust Joost to pick the best 3 of the 4 heads. He’s holding them in his hands while we are only seeing small jpeg images.

I really do appreciate the access Jazzinc has allowed so far, but seriously, too many cooks spoil the broth.

Nick D · Sep 14, 2024

batmanfan23 said:
Most likely they are all the same but look different depending on the angle of light. The worst case you have seen- assume you will be able to see that from certain angles and lighting conditions on the unit you get. Judging by your comments I would highly suggest you cancel your order.

Lighting has an impact, no doubt about it. But that vertical one at the wheel well on that test version is not down to lighting. That level of indentation is simply not present JazzInc’s recent video, it looks great.

Not a great suggestion to tell someone to eat a $300 NRD, would you?

Solidus · Sep 14, 2024

I think it’s good that there are cancellation/refund options available for this. Then again, there’s an NRD, so you’d have to weigh that too.

I’m also appreciative that Joost took the time to drop by this thread and answer much as he did. I don’t think there’s much more that he can answer. It’s clear that he cares deeply for the community, and that’s a level of service that we won’t ever get from a company like Hot Toys.

batmanfan23 · Sep 14, 2024

Nick D said:
Lighting has an impact, no doubt about it. But that vertical one at the wheel well on that test version is not down to lighting. That level of indentation is simply not present JazzInc’s recent video, it looks great.

Not a great suggestion to tell someone to eat a $300 NRD, would you?

It’s not a question of if it’s due to the lighting or something else. It is in the product, all them, it will be in yours. If you don’t want that, cancel your order.

robbiethepainter · Sep 14, 2024

Two of the absolute worst things for a project. Gloss black. One is bad enough but then to have to do both, nightmare. Black as a surface sucks because it shows every spot and blemish. Gloss as a surface is even worse. Every wobble or change of direction becomes accentuated. You take those two nightmares and then create an object that has flowing organic shapes. Forget about it. You can see that HT chose not to do any of those things. Thiers has more flat surfaces. In both geometry and in texture. This helps mask so many imperfections. Only thing HT then has to worry about is the flat black scuffing, which I remember it was one of the problems they had during shipping with the first version. My hat is off to Joost and his people. The problem with still pictures are you don't know if what you are seeing is the surface changing direction or if the person taking the picture is wearing a black shirt and the reflection is them.

The Buffinator · Sep 14, 2024

Nick D said:
Lighting has an impact, no doubt about it. But that vertical one at the wheel well on that test version is not down to lighting. That level of indentation is simply not present JazzInc’s recent video, it looks great.

Not a great suggestion to tell someone to eat a $300 NRD, would you?

In your particular case I think Joost would offer to refund the NRD as well, with interest. :lol

All kidding aside, hopefully in a few months we'll all have our Batmobiles and are happy campers. In the meantime, repeatedly fretting about what's out of our control is pointless (and will just get deleted anyway).

Nick D · Sep 14, 2024

Again, no one is canceling off of a picture and risking a $300 NRD down the drain. Even if he were to offer the entire refund, I want to see this in person and as a paying customer I have that right. I will receive it in hand where nothing will be in the way to either hide or accentuate its flaws. I’ll wait for more photos and videos to come out from customers instead of talking about this any further. If what’s shown in his latest video is what’s promised across the board, I’m content.

Solidus · Sep 14, 2024

Yeah, best to remain calm - you guys will receive it in hand soon enough to judge for yourselves. I’m regretful that I was unable to get an order for the 89. Can’t say that the Animated Batmobile that I have on pre-order is a consolation, though (as that’s the one I’ve always wanted

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Centrocal · Sep 14, 2024

This might solve all the complaints:

Rondesmo · Sep 14, 2024

Guys… with all this drama… I can say you that the chance to see an hypothetical 1/12 version vanished forever like a Returns version as well IMO…

Solidus · Sep 14, 2024

Centrocal said:
This might solve all the complaints:

“I think he means trunk”

Bleah · Sep 14, 2024

Rondesmo said:
Guys… with all this drama… I can say you that the chance to see an hypothetical 1/12 version vanished forever like a Returns version as well IMO…

Maybe it's for the best.

user 78187 · Sep 14, 2024

Rondesmo said:
Guys… with all this drama… I can say you that the chance to see an hypothetical 1/12 version vanished forever like a Returns version as well IMO…

I'm not in the market for this since 1/6 vehicles are too big for me so I'd love to see a 1/12 version. Even with some level of indentation this is still a lot better than Hot Toys. However, if I had this on preorder, I'd also be less relaxed and express my concerns. Professional Creators just need to be thick skinned in this hobby

Solidus · Sep 14, 2024

1/12 seems like it won’t happen for any project, due to the poor reception of the 1/12 Justicemobile.

JazzInc · Sep 15, 2024

Nick D said:
I want the product, I just wanted to know what qualified for an exchange? That’s all my point was ever about here.

Dear Nick, the indentations will not qualify you for an exchange, so again, I really want to ask you to think about whether you want your money back, which is what I am offering. To be very clear, I would give you everything back, including the NRD and eat all the payment and refund costs and credit card costs I have incurred on this. Which is also part of why we usually keep in NRD. Again, you would get all your money back as a one time exception. I really don’t want you to be unhappy with anything we do, so please consider this the best I can do for you.

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