I loved that show My Two Dads. Used to see re-runs.
Now a days, My Two Dads is gonna be something COMPLETELY different.
Joker: Folie à Deux
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Now a days, My Two Dads is gonna be something COMPLETELY different.
That’s how I feel and I don’t really see that changing, can’t undo what’s been done, as finite as can be.
Had he been able to use that time wisely and develop the other half of the character’s personality, we could be looking at a completely different ball game. Phoenix is no slouch, but alas, wasn’t meant to be.
Now I want a nugget.
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Joker should kill indiscriminately.
Joker should kill indiscriminately.
It's funnier that way, right?
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When Hollywood has to cherry pick actors based on their race, sexuality, gender, religion, political beliefs, in order to market a movie to their desired audience, or more accurately, market an idea to the youth, via cool young actors that seem harmless,
we know the time of film has passed,
bring on tel-a-vision.
I canceled mine, try to get your NRD back if you do. This is one instance I advocate asking for it back with your foot down.
The character in this film is not what we ordered, the guy was ***** and shanked to death, who would’ve thought that back when we ordered this. I’m not saying they have to do anything, but don’t let them cancel your order until you get an ambassador that will return your NRD, they exist.
we know the time of film has passed,
bring on tel-a-vision.
I canceled mine, try to get your NRD back if you do. This is one instance I advocate asking for it back with your foot down.
The character in this film is not what we ordered, the guy was ***** and shanked to death, who would’ve thought that back when we ordered this. I’m not saying they have to do anything, but don’t let them cancel your order until you get an ambassador that will return your NRD, they exist.
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Ew, look at those Bat-feet.
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jye4ever
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I’m not canceling anything.
Phoenix Joker from part 1 still remains my Apex Joker no piss poor sequel will ever take that away, you hear me Todddddd!
Besides
Phoenix Joker from part 1 still remains my Apex Joker no piss poor sequel will ever take that away, you hear me Todddddd!
Besides
I didn’t order him anyways.
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yup. Kinda like Berserk. i think when it comes to men they struggle through the hardships and being seen as strong. So they attach themselves to like a strong character that has been through hell and is treated wrong but still pushes through.
I think Men and woman gravitate to Joker and Halrey because of the inner Shadow theory in which people just have a dark side in them they are afraid to explore and that once someone gives into there darker self people find it interesting cause they are breaking from "Societal norms" and are free.
Joker 2019 was literally about just being free and he felt bogged down by the world around him and he couldn't be at his full poteintail becuase of how he was so he let his inner dark side free and gave into his dark persona becuase he didn;t want to play by the rules anymore.
There is nothing wrong with liking a character like that. It's a villain. You know it's a fantasy. you know it's not real life. Again. A GOOD majority of people know the joker is a bad person and would never want someone like him in real life but we love the who "free yourself and become the best version of you" thing they were going for.
It shouldn;t always be viewed as negative.
But of course this ***** literally thought people were out liking the joker when people just genuiely just did what all nerds do when they like a character. Dress up and have profile pics of him, but toys and stuff. OOOOO scary.
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it's weird right? Like if I made a character and I made him to be hated and people like him. I would be baffled and put off but I wouldn't just out right destroy the character. How on earth does that help you?
Now if I made a Nazi/****/racist/rapist and lots of people gravitated towards that I would probably just drop the project. But I don't see anything wrong about making a character that's just a bad dude who kinda kills people in a fictional setting. You pretty much make him to be destroyed or beaten by the good guys.
Ask Carpenter that question.
He has no idea why Michael stuck, he just did. Now he cannot escape the creation he made when to him, he was just hired for work fresh out of college, broke.
To an extent, I get where the guy is coming from.
He’s old as dirt and has to put up with fresh faced 16 year olds constantly asking him about the character, every time they make a new film, that’s a fresh pair of eyes ready to annoy him to his core.
Now there’s some sort of tv show in development, because people can’t get enough, so they’d rather get something mediocre than nothing at all. Even though that mediocre something is tearing down the character they seem to care a great deal about.
Sorry for shifting the thread to Halloween, there’s just a lot of similarities between the two in regards to how a main character was handled.
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Just because you like a character, agree with his motivations, see his struggles, root for him, doesn't mean you are that person.
So many of these people in power are there to destroy your soul. Joker can be about a man who rises out of his struggles, to become king of the city or could be simply a crazy man.
To many men found hope in the Joker so those in charge of us didn't like that men liked him.
Imagine society telling you as a man you are worthless....it's good to see someone even like the Joker, as terrible as he is, finds a way to overcome all his struggles.
Joker in a way the movie 2019, sort of inspirational as a man.
It's hard for a woman, those are the MSM journalists, to understand how hard it is to be a man. He must earn it all.
Someone like Harley doesn't really earn. Like most women they are given things(Dates, wedding rings, scholarships, money, ect...) Perhaps both the Joker and Harley simply represents both male and female stories, except they chose the path of villainy.
If Star Wars was released today, no one would be allowed to like Darth Vader.
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Idk. as a creator myself. i would love if people loved something I made. good or bad. I guess it could get annoying being asked the same thing each generation.
Maybe once you make something so good and people just won't leave you alone about it then maybe thats why they start to hate it. Like Lucas, carpenter and so many others.
I guess you stick with this thing for so long you want to move on but you can;t cause whatever you do your lead back to that damn thing you made.
But **** Todd Phillips he didn;t make the Joker just used the name and decided to **** on it when he didn;t want to make a second film. And **** WB for letting that happen.
They made Harley a girl with daddy’s money obsessed with the popularity at Joker’s feet,
she wasn’t even into him like the comics, just liked that he had a name, for good or bad.
Carpenter never cared about his creation though, once the film wrapped, his interests began to lie elsewhere.
The crew only had three weeks to shoot, with $300k and no set clothing or vehicles at their disposal other than what they owned personally.
So no one had time to develop a fondness for the character, they just had a deadline to meet. Carpenter asked for his name above the title, because his favorite director did and he wanted to make a name for himself had any of it become a success, not because he believed in it.
she wasn’t even into him like the comics, just liked that he had a name, for good or bad.
Carpenter never cared about his creation though, once the film wrapped, his interests began to lie elsewhere.
The crew only had three weeks to shoot, with $300k and no set clothing or vehicles at their disposal other than what they owned personally.
So no one had time to develop a fondness for the character, they just had a deadline to meet. Carpenter asked for his name above the title, because his favorite director did and he wanted to make a name for himself had any of it become a success, not because he believed in it.
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Look at Joe's side-eyed expectation.
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