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The role was short, but to be honest he was a very big part of the plot. The bomb he set off and Wanda's handling of the explosion was what got the ball rolling for registration. As well gave Zemo the perfect opportunity to split apart the team. He was pretty intergral as an inciting incident.

:goodpost: That's a really good point!

Still not going to pre-order him though, if I do get him this will probably be one of those figures that I pick up somewhere down the line after release (even more so if it is at a discount!). There just is so much stuff coming out that I am having to prioritise unfortunately and this one isn't high enough on my list of wants right now to warrant a purchase.

He does look good though - nice design, plus it's great that we are getting more villains! :rock Deffo need more baddies Hot Toys! :lecture
 
The role was short, but to be honest he was a very big part of the plot. The bomb he set off and Wanda's handling of the explosion was what got the ball rolling for registration. As well gave Zemo the perfect opportunity to split apart the team. He was pretty intergral as an inciting incident.

That's true, good point.
 
If we were going to see this figure, it would have been around the movies home video release. I highly doubt it's going to see the light of day from here on out.
 
The role was short, but to be honest he was a very big part of the plot. The bomb he set off and Wanda's handling of the explosion was what got the ball rolling for registration. As well gave Zemo the perfect opportunity to split apart the team. He was pretty intergral as an inciting incident.
Yep. Despite not having a lot of screen time the character is integral to the plot of the film.
 
How long was Yellowjacket paraded around?



Like literally hundreds of figure announcements have come after the home video release. There's a million reasons why a figure can be delayed. From planned schedule so that they can keep a license active (in case you didn't know to keep the rights they have to announce and put up for sale new product from it) to prototype approval issues at marvel, to engineering issues. Drax was long after the film. Be out about the same time as the sequel. To force awakens figures to whiplash mk2 coming out after nearly four more films. Batman returns was shown around for nearly three years. There's more instances of hot toys announcing figures after a film has hit DVD release then there is ones announced before.
 
Thanks for that behind the scene look at how things are done, Motux. Can you provide links so that I can understand how things are done by Hot Toys, Marvel and such (from licensing to behind the scene issues) so that I can educate myself as to how things are done? Thanks!

*educate
 
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Like literally hundreds of figure announcements have come after the home video release. There's a million reasons why a figure can be delayed. From planned schedule so that they can keep a license active (in case you didn't know to keep the rights they have to announce and put up for sale new product from it) to prototype approval issues at marvel, to engineering issues. Drax was long after the film. Be out about the same time as the sequel. To force awakens figures to whiplash mk2 coming out after nearly four more films. Batman returns was shown around for nearly three years. There's more instances of hot toys announcing figures after a film has hit DVD release then there is ones announced before.

I just don't see it. I respect your knowledge and think you make valid points, but I believe the market says otherwise here. As far as licenses go, while what you're saying is true usually, I get a feeling Marvel and Hot Toys are on a different contract, otherwise we would be seeing a great deal more figures from older films.

Villians are for serious collectors. Outside the likes of Loki, few casual individuals are going to pick up a villain in place of a main character.

Loki has a fan base, and even his second iteration is still available at retailers.

The Mandarin is discounted to wonderful lows and still not moving stock.

Chuitari fit the above.

I was not around the hobby when Red Skull was released, so I am not available to comment on that.

Thanos is still sitting around too, and I heard very little excitement about the figure on the whole.

Whiplash is an Iron Man character and looks like cool armor, the later giving it some extra weight, but it still is available.

Iron Monger fits the above, minus availability.

That's not a good track record for a character type. It's not a safe investment, and Crossbones? He's got none of the bonus attributes the above have boasted. By the time this guy would even relatively come around to being available, at least two if not three Marvel films will have been released and collectors monies will go towards new main characters and new films. Few folks will buy this over, say, Dr. Strange or Star Lord. This is exacerbated for Yellowjacket, and he's got cool looks and more screen time. Why produce a product you know your own merchandise will cannibalize sales with?

The other figures you've mentioned, Drax and Returns Batman, are not ideal examples because:

The former is the last member of a team, he has weight for sale still (plus the number of production issues and licensing problems we all know about delayed him, yes). But even then, I doubt highly he will sell clean out, even if he hits shelves for the new film. They've learned their lesson doubling up with figures soon (Vision), so there's little chance we will see a V.2 any time soon. Plus, he's arguably the least popular Guardian.

The latter is, in short, Batman. There's always sales potential in that.

Surely, if this figure or Yellowjacket come out, I will eat crow and say I was wrong; I'm not above that. But based on a historical record, I just don't see this guy boding well for Hot Toys.
 
I'm inclined to agree with you, but I do hope you're wrong. :lol

I think Ultron mk1 seems to point toward crossbones still having a chance. Especially given the time delay between the movie and that figure. The villain category really is underrepresented in the hot toys marvel catalogue so here's hoping.
 
I just don't see it. I respect your knowledge and think you make valid points, but I believe the market says otherwise here. As far as licenses go, while what you're saying is true usually, I get a feeling Marvel and Hot Toys are on a different contract, otherwise we would be seeing a great deal more figures from older films.

Villians are for serious collectors. Outside the likes of Loki, few casual individuals are going to pick up a villain in place of a main character.

Loki has a fan base, and even his second iteration is still available at retailers.

The Mandarin is discounted to wonderful lows and still not moving stock.

Chuitari fit the above.

I was not around the hobby when Red Skull was released, so I am not available to comment on that.

Thanos is still sitting around too, and I heard very little excitement about the figure on the whole.

Whiplash is an Iron Man character and looks like cool armor, the later giving it some extra weight, but it still is available.

Iron Monger fits the above, minus availability.

That's not a good track record for a character type. It's not a safe investment, and Crossbones? He's got none of the bonus attributes the above have boasted. By the time this guy would even relatively come around to being available, at least two if not three Marvel films will have been released and collectors monies will go towards new main characters and new films. Few folks will buy this over, say, Dr. Strange or Star Lord. This is exacerbated for Yellowjacket, and he's got cool looks and more screen time. Why produce a product you know your own merchandise will cannibalize sales with?

The other figures you've mentioned, Drax and Returns Batman, are not ideal examples because:

The former is the last member of a team, he has weight for sale still (plus the number of production issues and licensing problems we all know about delayed him, yes). But even then, I doubt highly he will sell clean out, even if he hits shelves for the new film. They've learned their lesson doubling up with figures soon (Vision), so there's little chance we will see a V.2 any time soon. Plus, he's arguably the least popular Guardian.

The latter is, in short, Batman. There's always sales potential in that.

Surely, if this figure or Yellowjacket come out, I will eat crow and say I was wrong; I'm not above that. But based on a historical record, I just don't see this guy boding well for Hot Toys.

Very valid points. And I can back you further. Electro - They can't give the figure away. They showed Rhino but never made him (I understand why). Ultron is a robot. Robot seems to do better. I hope they make YJ and CB, but HT's a business and the studios keep producing new movies and I think they're running crazy fast just trying to keep up.
 
I just don't see it. I respect your knowledge and think you make valid points, but I believe the market says otherwise here. As far as licenses go, while what you're saying is true usually, I get a feeling Marvel and Hot Toys are on a different contract, otherwise we would be seeing a great deal more figures from older films.

Villians are for serious collectors. Outside the likes of Loki, few casual individuals are going to pick up a villain in place of a main character.

Loki has a fan base, and even his second iteration is still available at retailers.

The Mandarin is discounted to wonderful lows and still not moving stock.

Chuitari fit the above.

I was not around the hobby when Red Skull was released, so I am not available to comment on that.

Thanos is still sitting around too, and I heard very little excitement about the figure on the whole.

Whiplash is an Iron Man character and looks like cool armor, the later giving it some extra weight, but it still is available.

Iron Monger fits the above, minus availability.

That's not a good track record for a character type. It's not a safe investment, and Crossbones? He's got none of the bonus attributes the above have boasted. By the time this guy would even relatively come around to being available, at least two if not three Marvel films will have been released and collectors monies will go towards new main characters and new films. Few folks will buy this over, say, Dr. Strange or Star Lord. This is exacerbated for Yellowjacket, and he's got cool looks and more screen time. Why produce a product you know your own merchandise will cannibalize sales with?

The other figures you've mentioned, Drax and Returns Batman, are not ideal examples because:

The former is the last member of a team, he has weight for sale still (plus the number of production issues and licensing problems we all know about delayed him, yes). But even then, I doubt highly he will sell clean out, even if he hits shelves for the new film. They've learned their lesson doubling up with figures soon (Vision), so there's little chance we will see a V.2 any time soon. Plus, he's arguably the least popular Guardian.

The latter is, in short, Batman. There's always sales potential in that.

Surely, if this figure or Yellowjacket come out, I will eat crow and say I was wrong; I'm not above that. But based on a historical record, I just don't see this guy boding well for Hot Toys.

I agree with this.

I do hope the figure gets released, but realistically based on these points, I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
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