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My feeling is that people who don't care at all about grammar on a forum don't care about it in general.

I agree.

I don't typically do a lot of proof reading when I post on forums, but my grasp of grammar is such that most mistakes don't get made in the first place. Sometimes I get the sense that the attitude of "meh, it's a forum" is not the genesis of poor grammar, but rather just a situational scapegoat for a more systemic issue.

Interesting. Fascinating actually. Do you care to elaborate on this?
 
horrible grammar is anathema to me ("should of" is a terrible terrible thing). i am seriously old school and feel like lolspeak and other such sloppy horrors betray a lack of civility (most of the time it ain't the non-english speakers doing it deliberately).

that said, however, calling out others' grammar mistakes is rude in any environment.

just saying.

p.s. and yes, i know "ain't" is not a word and a lack of capitalization is unconventional; which is the other reason i cast no stones.
 
I agree.



Interesting. Fascinating actually. Do you care to elaborate on this?

I only mean that people think grammar isn't important. "well you understood what I was saying" gets tossed out a lot. The logic being that if you are smart enough to deduce my intention then it isn't important that i didn't use the 'correct' vehicles to convey that point. But things do get lost in translation and time is often wasted with the reader having to either take extra time to understand the intent of a post, or there has to be further elaboration to make clear a point that could have been made with some initial attention to and appreciation of proper grammar. Grammar isn't natural construct, it's just a set of rules set forth to facilitate the transmission of thought. That's why, to me, in a place such as a forum, where the ultimate focus and use might be of a casual nature, grammar matters very much as we are writing to eachother as our only means of communication. When we *******ize the mode by which we communicate, to me we *******ize the communication itself.

I don't go around correcting stranger's grammar, but on my end, I do form opinions about those who don't take the time or have a basic understanding of the written language. I also tend to not read posters who consistently forego any thought or care to grammar and spelling.

That all probably doesn't really answer your question of elaboration. I suppose I just mean that the systemic issue is that people either think that grammar doesn't matter in much the same way smart kids in class get teased, or they simply feel that communication is more the job of the listener than it is the speaker.
 
Also, To balance this out, some grammar policing is really annoying and only serves the purpose if stroking one's ego or satiating a neurosis, because often misuses of 'than' or 'then' or other affronts to grammar are simple brain farts. Isolated instances that don't deserve further mention. In those cases I side with "hey, it's a forum, stop breaking my *****, grammar Nazi". This isn't all so important as to require extensive proofreading for brain farts or mistypes.

However often people say "it's just a forum" when they consistently make the same mistakes, which indicates not that they are putting in less effort because it's a forum, but rather that they simply lack the knowledge and tools of writing correctly inthe first place. That's more truly what I mean by scapegoating.

I have now written about this way too much :)
 
I only mean that people think grammar isn't important. "well you understood what I was saying" gets tossed out a lot. The logic being that if you are smart enough to deduce my intention then it isn't important that i didn't use the 'correct' vehicles to convey that point. But things do get lost in translation and time is often wasted with the reader having to either take extra time to understand the intent of a post, or there has to be further elaboration to make clear a point that could have been made with some initial attention to and appreciation of proper grammar. Grammar isn't natural construct, it's just a set of rules set forth to facilitate the transmission of thought. That's why, to me, in a place such as a forum, where the ultimate focus and use might be of a casual nature, grammar matters very much as we are writing to eachother as our only means of communication. When we *******ize the mode by which we communicate, to me we *******ize the communication itself.

I don't go around correcting stranger's grammar, but on my end, I do form opinions about those who don't take the time or have a basic understanding of the written language. I also tend to not read posters who consistently forego any thought or care to grammar and spelling.

That all probably doesn't really answer your question of elaboration. I suppose I just mean that the systemic issue is that people either think that grammar doesn't matter in much the same way smart kids in class get teased, or they simply feel that communication is more the job of the listener than it is the speaker.

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Nope, that's exactly what I meant! I think that you have hit the nail exactly on the head, with great precision. I agree with you 100%. And no you have not written about this too much.

Thank you for your answer, it was very encouraging. Now I suppose that we shall have to stray back on topic!
 
Loki ****ing rules.

Although I gave my fiance Blitzway Scarface last night and when she got him all opened up and posed on his badass chair, one of the first things she said was "Loki used to be cool, but next to Scarface now he looks like a drag queen"
 
Loki ****ing rules.

Although I gave my fiance Blitzway Scarface last night and when she got him all opened up and posed on his badass chair, one of the first things she said was "Loki used to be cool, but next to Scarface now he looks like a drag queen"

I love the Scarface figure, but my tastes always head into SF/fantasy/superheroes territory, so it would not sit easily in my collection amongst the Bat and Super and Spider men, Avengers, Jedis, Siths, Bonds, Buffys (plural Buffies?).

A great piece though.
 
I love the Scarface figure, but my tastes always head into SF/fantasy/superheroes territory, so it would not sit easily in my collection amongst the Bat and Super and Spider men, Avengers, Jedis, Siths, Bonds, Buffys (plural Buffies?).

A great piece though.

Mine too, minus the Super man and Buffy.
 
General question to our USA SSFreaks...

Over here in the UK a detolf costs £40. That's a hair's thickness over $62 (at todays rate). Is that about what you'd pay for one in America?

Just curious...:dunno
 
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