1/6 Hot Toys - MMS352 - Terminator Genisys: Endoskeleton Collectible Figure

[FACEBOX]

Apparently it has battle damage features that reveal Arnold Schwarzenegger underneath!

This cracked me up.

 

[Patriot666]

Damn I'm still torn on this.


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[a-dev]

pity they didn't put all that effort into a real endoskeleton.

Why. Why why why did they have to make a Genisys one?

The minuscule amount of people who actually would prefer a Genisys endo would have ''settled for'' an original style Endoskeleton. And in fact I can't imagine any such people even exist.

On the other hand, of those who really want an original style Endoskeleton, many will choose not to buy this. I could only speculate on the percentage but I expect it will be pretty high. Hot Toys shot themselves in the foot here, let alone Terminator fans.

 

[barryo]

I'm of the mindset that i want to own an endoskeleton, preferably a t1...........but since I missed out on the original & currently there isn't a plan to make a t1, this will have to do. If ht eventually does a re-release/upgrade of a t1 I will then own two endos...........ive got no problem with that.....

But about the black shoulder joints.......even though ref photos show it black or dark grey.......how hard would they be to paint to match the existing finish if you wanted to change it? Can the alclad be brushed on smooth enough to look decent. Seems ive always hear about people using an airbrush to get the best finish.

 

[snoop101]

Apparently it has battle damage features that reveal Arnold Schwarzenegger underneath!

 

[xipotec]

I like it as a general Endo.....

But not at full price.....maybe they will drop down the line.....

I would do 180.00


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[a-dev]

I can see there's no fooling you Anakin.

 

[predarnold]

But about the black shoulder joints.......even though ref photos show it black or dark grey.......how hard would they be to paint to match the existing finish if you wanted to change it? Can the alclad be brushed on smooth enough to look decent. Seems ive always hear about people using an airbrush to get the best finish.

It's hard to tell with color is movie accurate. Black, gray, silver or chrome...

 

[snoop101]

I can see there's no fooling you Anakin.

I'll end up getting this at some point. I may use my Rewards points on it.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

The minuscule amount of people who actually would prefer a Genisys endo would have ''settled for'' an original style Endoskeleton. And in fact I can't imagine any such people even exist.

Who are you people dammit, I demand that you reveal yourselves?!!! Anybody actually prefer the Genisys endo? Speak up now and get what's coming to you Which is apparently exactly what you wanted

 

[predarnold]

I like Genisys way better than T1 and T2 version.









NOT.

 

[P.]

i wonder if anybody who bought the figure will ever put the big chest hoses into a proper position.
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also i like his spine column construction more on this toy than on any other. because every other skeleton figure doesn't have those free spaces that should allow bending and was present at least on Cameron's sketch.

looking at actual real endoskeletons i think it's safe to say that they cannot bend as well.

this column might turn but would never be able to bend.

this spine could actually work as a spine.
and it's present on a figure.

maybe original skeletons aren't supposed to bend, just to swing on a ball joint between torso and a piece of spine. but, as far as i know, the spine goes through torso to the head on Cameron's skeletons, so yes, it was a nonfunctional spine.

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i cannot say that i like the view better - it's very humanoid, yes, but it doesn't need that, because that part is deep inside the body. i only like the construction of spaces between segments that visually suggests actual functionality, unlike original spines.

if only that guy who designed Gynysys skeleton respected classics more than money, we would today have a HT skeleton improved on every level.

 

[Alice]

(i actually don't need diecast ever)

I don't think you really need to worry about that. After completely disassembling the 1/4 "Diecast" Endo, the only pieces that are diecast are the thighs, pelvis, lower section of the spine and the biceps. Every single other piece is plastic (aside from screws and springs). At that point you might as well just make the whole thing plastic. I seriously doubt they would even consider making a 1/6 Endo with diecast parts if they only used diecast for less than 10% of the 1/4 Endo.

Also, RE: the old Endo spine. The old spine would bend just as much as a human spine, being; not much. Not a lot of bending comes from the spine anyway. The original Endo spine was also fairly cleverly segmented in a way that would allow ample movement, but not expose any of the inner workings.

 

[Jameson Rook]

 

[P.]

Also, RE: the old Endo spine. The old spine would bend just as much as a human spine, being; not much.

erm...

a) human spine can bend because of soft material in spaces between segments

b) endoskeleton spine cannot bend at all because of zero spaces between segments

c) gynysys endoskeleton spine has space between segments and thus technically can bend.

 

[Madball]

The genysis endoskeleton looks way more badass than the original.

 

[P.]

The genysis endoskeleton looks way more badass than the original.

i comlpletely agree with both "bad" and "ass" parts.

 

[Alice]

The original endo design, I've always assumed, used a cup and ball system. They look like flat segments, but each fit into the next and allow a bit of "roll" forward, back and side to side. There is a bit of space between each segment to allow enough movement to bend.

Quick drawing of what I mean. Side view showing how each vertebra sits inside the one below. This system would be more structurally sound, and not expose the hydraulic hoses for the leg pistons that would more than likely run through the spine.

 

[P.]

i assumed the same, and prefer to think the same.
but every time i see a close-up of actual 1/1 dolls from the movie, there is no space for such system. all segments just stand on each other.
the system is definitely present in the neck, letting segments at least swing to sides.

(are first two images visible?)

but the main body spine segments have flat bases, and they don't have gaps between them. nothing but turning around is possible.
i cannot find a picture better then what i posted

but it looks exactly like it does on toys.

they should have make gaps wider, like it was on Cameron's sketch.

of course i can always assume that it expands when bending, not slides.

by the way, a great site about small details, though i remember seeing some mistakes in final product (a head hose connection type is what i definitely remember):

https://t-800.jp/web/en/laboratory/007-cervical-spine

 

[Alice]

On the 1:1s, as evidenced when Reese sticks the pipebomb into the Terminator's midsection, the lower spinal vertebra are indeed separate, hollow pieces (you see them move independently of each other). The 1:1s more than likely work the same as the 1/4 HT endo (Lean forward and the spaces get wider at the back. Lean back and the spaces get wider at the front.) They don't work in the most logical way, or the way we would expect, but they do work. I think the 1:1s weren't built 100% to Cameron's specs simply because they never needed that much detail during filming. You have just enough detail there to give the impression of what Cameron had designed while also being practical for shooting scenes.

I can accept it the same say I accept that even though I know the predator's armour was mostly sculpted onto the body itself, I know it was intended to be separate pieces in the make believe universe.

EDIT: Yeah. All of your pictures work.