1/6 Hot Toys - The Flash - Batman and Batcycle Collectible Set

[Chopper Face]

A shift in perspective is one of the clearest ways to exhibit development within a character- be it for a more positive or negative outlook.

 

[TheBatman]

Fatman 2.0

 

[T8OO]

Same reason why we went from “We're criminals, Alfred. We've always been criminals. Nothing's changed.” to ”Faith Alfred, Faith”. It’s this new thing called character development.

 

[hbhf]

Interesting that Affleck is not even credited in this movie. That would explain a lot regarding the "likeness" issues with figures for Hot Toys and McFarlane and others no doubt.

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I do wonder if it has anything to do with Affleck's recent comments re: working with Gunn going forward.

"When The Hollywood Reporter asked if he was interested in directing a DC film for Gunn, Affleck responded, “I would not direct something for the Gunn DC. Absolutely not.”

Affleck went on to say he has no issues with Gunn, but rather he “just wouldn’t want to go in and direct in the way they’re doing that.”

Then Affleck turning up at the Snydercon.

Clearly more here than meets the eye.

Not really. Any issue like likeness would have been sorted out ages ago, especially since the scenes with Batfleck were shot way back in 2021 and the turn around time on an action figure is at least a year. That was well before James Gunn was hired. It is most likely what we already knew going into this: he was done with the Batman role and did this as an exit, and then came back to do the cameo for Aquaman 2 as a favor (or more likely another massive payday) when the release order changeup meant that having Keaton as Batman would make a continuity error.

Despite what some fans believe, he was never coming back as Batman full time. Even before he publicly said he wasn't going to be directing for the new DCU, James Gunn had already said his new Batman wouldn't be Affleck. Showing up at Snydercon was most likely exactly what it appeared to be on the surface: dude being a bro and doing his good buddy a solid.

I know some people here are very bitter at James Gunn for not restoring the Snyderverse, but that was already not happening even before he took over. The idea that Ben was totally onboard and then backed out at the last second because of smelly, mean ole' Gunn is just projection.

 

[Hoody999]

Not really. Any issue like likeness would have been sorted out ages ago, especially since the scenes with Batfleck were shot way back in 2021 and the turn around time on an action figure is at least a year. That was well before James Gunn was hired. It is most likely what we already knew going into this: he was done with the Batman role and did this as an exit, and then came back to do the cameo for Aquaman 2 as a favor (or more likely another massive payday) when the release order changeup meant that having Keaton as Batman would make a continuity error.

Despite what some fans believe, he was never coming back as Batman full time. Even before he publicly said he wasn't going to be directing for the new DCU, James Gunn had already said his new Batman wouldn't be Affleck. Showing up at Snydercon was most likely exactly what it appeared to be on the surface: dude being a bro and doing his good buddy a solid.

I know some people here are very bitter at James Gunn for not restoring the Snyderverse, but that was already not happening even before he took over. The idea that Ben was totally onboard and then backed out at the last second because of smelly, mean ole' Gunn is just projection.

He wasn't talking about playing Batman, he was talking about not directing anything for Gunn and what they were wanting to do.

 

[Hologram AI]

He wasn't talking about playing Batman, he was talking about not directing anything for Gunn and what they were wanting to do.

No, Affleck mentioned how over he was of being Batman long before Gunn came on board. People seem to forget the alcohol and personal life issues he was going through during the time Justice League came out. He wanted nothing to do with playing Batman after that movie due to the terrible experience he had with it.

He only recently said how much of a good time he had on The Flash with his small part and that he wouldn't be returning to direct anything under Gunns new universe since he was done with the role. People just like to pin the blame on Gunn due to having a hard on for Snyderverse.

 

[Alatar]

This is one of the easiest passes on a “Snyderverse“ figure that I’ve ever made.

 

[Luisenigma1]

Seems Ben did wear the cape and cowl on set one last time.

 

[Femtech]

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but after watching the film, the bike's proportions looked more in line with what HT sculpted than the stunt version used for filming. I was worried that HT was cutting costs by shortening the bike, but the resemblance between screen and toy seems pretty good. Perhaps the longer bike was more practical when shooting the film, and the intention had always been to truncate it in post.

 

[Mike86]

I’m kind of leaning towards getting this figure to go with the modern suit Batman, The Flash, and hopefully Supergirl.

We’ll have to see how deep the line goes. I’d like to collect them all but if the variant Batsuits get made I may not get all of them.

 

[Hoody999]

No, Affleck mentioned how over he was of being Batman long before Gunn came on board. People seem to forget the alcohol and personal life issues he was going through during the time Justice League came out. He wanted nothing to do with playing Batman after that movie due to the terrible experience he had with it.

He only recently said how much of a good time he had on The Flash with his small part and that he wouldn't be returning to direct anything under Gunns new universe since he was done with the role. People just like to pin the blame on Gunn due to having a hard on for Snyderverse.

That's ancient history, he said that when he was at the depths of his issues with divorce and drinking and the previous execs who caused all the on set issues. I've followed this intensively over the years, but think whatever you want, as will I.

Believe me there's enough blame put on the Snyderverse, so it goes both ways. But enjoy your Amanda Waller show and all the jokes and fun we'll have in DC going forward.

 

[T8OO]

Seems Ben did wear the cape and cowl on set one last time. View attachment 645322

I thought it was pretty obvious when he's just stood there in the bat suit it's definitely him in it.

 

[T8OO]

He wasn't. Affleck mentioned he only shot a very short scene in person and if he was in costume it would have been long publicized.

As bad as the CGI mouth replacement was it wasn't used for every shot.

 

[T8OO]

Here are my thoughts on the movie:
https://www.collectorfreaks.com/threads/the-flash-july-2022.232998/page-85#post-10902958

 

[Luisenigma1]

I thought it was pretty obvious when he's just stood there in the bat suit it's definitely him in it.

With how some here were saying the scenes he shot that he was never in costume it's funny that it turns out he was. It's obvious because it's him sure but everyone else thought otherwise.

 

[Mike86]

That's ancient history, he said that when he was at the depths of his issues with divorce and drinking and the previous execs who caused all the on set issues. I've followed this intensively over the years, but think whatever you want, as will I.

Believe me there's enough blame put on the Snyderverse, so it goes both ways. But enjoy your Amanda Waller show and all the jokes and fun we'll have in DC going forward.

The problem with the Snyderverse whether you want to acknowledge it or not is that it just wasn’t that successful.

I liked aspects of it including Affleck as Batman and even have grown to liking the films more but they weren’t very well received by critics or audiences. Yes, I know there are the diehard fans but they’re a minority.

It doesn’t make sense to keep pushing forward and beating a dead horse trying to force it to happen.

 

[Frenchy]

Seems Ben did wear the cape and cowl on set one last time. View attachment 645322

Another cool pic :

 

[Sktchwlkr]

The problem with the Snyderverse whether you want to acknowledge it or not is that it just wasn’t that successful.

I liked aspects of it including Affleck as Batman and even have grown to liking the films more but they weren’t very well received by critics or audiences. Yes, I know there are the diehard fans but they’re a minority.

It doesn’t make sense to keep pushing forward and beating a dead horse trying to force it to happen.

The problem is that WB has zero clue how to handle their characters and should never had meddled with Snyder‘s original vision. BvS theatrical was met with divisive response where as the UE has won many people over and is considered the superior version. I can’t count how many times I’ve heard it. ZSJL is also widely accepted as the far superior version over Josstice League. Both films’ suffer from studio meddling leading to poor response.
Of course they’re not going to push further because that’s essentially admitting their many faults.
Also, critics don’t know squat.

 

[Mike86]

The problem is that WB has zero clue how to handle their characters and should never had meddled with Snyder‘s original vision. BvS theatrical was met with divisive response where as the UE has won many people over and is considered the superior version. I can’t count how many times I’ve heard it. ZSJL is also widely accepted as the far superior version over Josstice League. Both films’ suffer from studio meddling leading to poor response.
Of course they’re not going to push further because that’s essentially admitting their many faults.
Also, critics don’t know squat.

The Ultimate Edition of BVS might be considered the better version and I agree but there are still a lot of issues with it. I just don’t think Snyder or his style of storytelling was ever going to win over a mainstream audience.

There are too many Snyder fanboys who just can’t get over the fact that it’s done and it’s time to move on. That’s the larger issue.

WB is trying to move forward with the DCU which we haven’t seen yet a segment of people are determined to not like it because it’s not by Zack Snyder.

 

[Hoody999]

The Ultimate Edition of BVS might be considered the better version and I agree but there are still a lot of issues with it. I just don’t think Snyder or his style of storytelling was ever going to win over a mainstream audience.

There are too many Snyder fanboys who just can’t get over the fact that it’s done and it’s time to move on. That’s the larger issue.

WB is trying to move forward with the DCU which we haven’t seen yet a segment of people are determined to not like it because it’s not by Zack Snyder.

I was a mainstream audience, and I became a "Snyder cultist". I'd never watched anything of his before, or even knew his name.

Snyder delivers Serious, detail rich, meaningful, visually stunning epic movies. Something which was lacking in Marvel. To me that is what DC should be and where they can set themselves apart.

But sure no doubt "mainstream" want Marvel, shallow, popcorn movies, so why not make more.

Doesn't mean Snyder's movies were poor movies or ill suited to the DC aesthetic.