1/6 Hot Toys - Venom: Let There Be Carnage - Carnage Collectible Figure

[karamazov80]

They did a good job making an articulated figure of this guy look as good as they did. Seems like a statue unless you are really looking for those joints.

But damn do I hate the '90s. And nothing is more '90s than this guy.

Well, maybe Night Thrasher or mulleted Superman, but still.

 

[faker]

That definitely would have been better if it was R rated only way you could do both characters in a film if Spider-man isn't in it.

Why do people say this, Carnage and Venom have always been goofy. Like, Carnage and Venom just sorta fight on the internet, or him playing chicken with Venom using school busses. Carnage's kills are always off screen or pg-13 tier. Sometimes you might see a bunch of dead bodies around him, but normally you don't see what he does. The most he ever killed was in Maximum Carnage, and the arc where he took over an entire stat, but I don't ever remember most of his exploits being shown because there were some guidelines for comic books back then, I think it was the comic's code authority?

For Venom his most brutal stuff was in the early Spider-man days, or the occasional stint with Gargan or when the suit was off him.

 

[CollectorGuy]

^ Well for one if we had a R rating, they wouldn't have to do those biting off heads in such a half ass, censored way.

 

[matticus]

Why do people say this, Carnage and Venom have always been goofy. Like, Carnage and Venom just sorta fight on the internet, or him playing chicken with Venom using school busses. Carnage's kills are always off screen or pg-13 tier. Sometimes you might see a bunch of dead bodies around him, but normally you don't see what he does. The most he ever killed was in Maximum Carnage, and the arc where he took over an entire stat, but I don't ever remember most of his exploits being shown because there were some guidelines for comic books back then, I think it was the comic's code authority?

For Venom his most brutal stuff was in the early Spider-man days, or the occasional stint with Gargan or when the suit was off him.

You could find any comic making some character dumb. We are talking spirit of the characters and Carnage and Venom are clearly R Rated characters. We will never know if R rated would've been a better box office and the PG-13 rating seemed to sell pretty well. Quality wise, it might've been a better film for it, but the dialogue wouldn't of changed and that is still a problem.

 

[BLNadal]

Just watched the movie, funny as hell and Carnage was great

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I really hope Kletus is someway still alive

 

[Blackout]

Just watched the movie, funny as hell and Carnage was great

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I really hope Kletus is someway still alive

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He's come back from much worse in the comics, which could obviously become inspiration for another movie.

I think Cletus is already on his fourth "Carnage" symbiote in the comics. Every time Carnage is "killed," permanent remnants of the original Carnage in his blood always engulf fresh symbiotes attached to him and end up restoring the full Carnage symbiote. In fact Cletus himself was recently a rotting corpse before a cult reintroduced a special piece of symbiote to his body, which kickstarted another revival. Heck, sometimes his carnage blood is all Cletus even needs to revive. His consciousness is preserved within the remants of the symbiote in the hive mind.

Basically what I'm saying here is...No head? No problem! That bloody headless body already has everything Cletus needs to make a sequel return. Just have a death cult dig him up or steal his body and a few script handwaves later, a red head is growing out of his neck and everyone in the room is dead. (Which would actually make for a very cool and creepy scene.)

For all we know, it already happened soon after Eddie left the scene. Or maybe the blood didn't start jumping until they started cremation, like in The Thing. There are plenty of possibilities here, and it's actually pretty unlikely that Carnage is permanently dead from a story point of view. Although from a real world point of view, whether that's a story they choose to tell is up in the air.

I think Carnage in Venom 2 was popular but underused. A revival with the origin already out of the way could really escalate with inspiration like 2019’s Absolute Carnage, involving Knull and the hive mind. Imagine if his decapitation led to some memory loss, causing a skeletal Carnage/Cletus to go out on a mission to make himself whole again, similar to the Absolute Carnage storyline. Perhaps killing/absorbing people who remember him, in order to try and remember himself. And the only thing he can remember...is carnage.

 

[matticus]

Seeing a video of a just announced figure on their FB page always makes me think it hasn't sold well enough so far.

 

[faker]

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He's come back from much worse in the comics, which could obviously become inspiration for another movie.

I think Cletus is already on his fourth "Carnage" symbiote in the comics. Every time Carnage is "killed," permanent remnants of the original Carnage in his blood always engulf fresh symbiotes attached to him and end up restoring the full Carnage symbiote. In fact Cletus himself was recently a rotting corpse before a cult reintroduced a special piece of symbiote to his body, which kickstarted another revival. Heck, sometimes his carnage blood is all Cletus even needs to revive. His consciousness is preserved within the remants of the symbiote in the hive mind.

Basically what I'm saying here is...No head? No problem! That bloody headless body already has everything Cletus needs to make a sequel return. Just have a death cult dig him up or steal his body and a few script handwaves later, a red head is growing out of his neck and everyone in the room is dead. (Which would actually make for a very cool and creepy scene.)

For all we know, it already happened soon after Eddie left the scene. Or maybe the blood didn't start jumping until they started cremation, like in The Thing. There are plenty of possibilities here, and it's actually pretty unlikely that Carnage is permanently dead from a story point of view. Although from a real world point of view, whether that's a story they choose to tell is up in the air.

I think Carnage in Venom 2 was popular but underused. A revival with the origin already out of the way could really escalate with inspiration like 2019’s Absolute Carnage, involving Knull and the hive mind. Imagine if his decapitation led to some memory loss, causing a skeletal Carnage/Cletus to go out on a mission to make himself whole again, similar to the Absolute Carnage storyline. Perhaps killing/absorbing people who remember him, in order to try and remember himself. And the only thing he can remember...is carnage.

Carnage is completely bonded with the suit in most runs, even when it's "taken" from him. He can basically reconstitute from a couple of cells or a shred of the symbiote if he needs to. Even if you killed Cletus he's not really dead as long as a scrap of him is around, they forget that a lot in the comics, but even in things like mc2 just a little ball of him is enough for him to completely overwrite your personality and give you his powers.

The editorial and some elements in marvel really don't like Carnage, but the reality of it is, he is exactly as you describe, you can't really kill him. Essentially a more human the thing, although he doesn't completely destroy your body and you can still get him off, he himself can rebuild. I guess he's less scary that way?

 

[Flintty]

I told myself I was out of the HT game after Scarlet Witch arrives. But this figure made me break that and order both Carnage and Venom. They look spectacular together! I haven't even seen the film yet.

 

[faker]

I told myself I was out of the HT game after Scarlet Witch arrives. But this figure made me break that and order both Carnage and Venom. They look spectacular together! I haven't even seen the film yet.

it's worth it if you're a huge fan of both characters, but I think somebody said they might release a new version of Venom? I stayed away because of the seamless body and the price tag, but Carnage is made of sterner stuff, I'd assume the new one would be similar,

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or you could wait for the inevitable spider symbol release that's show up in whatever cross over they have planned.

 

[jinkazama]

Who's getting this?

 

[matticus]

Who's getting this?

I'm starting to slowly accept that this probably be the only shot at a top quality 1/6th Carnage figure. I'll just have to deal with the height, but that price tag is still hard to swallow. I certainly want all the Spidey villains I can get. But I won't budge on not getting a Venom until that spider symbol is on him and has to look pretty close to the comic.

 

[HMC117]

Who's getting this?

I pre-ordered instantly. Even if you didn't like movie Carnage, he looks so close to comic Carnage that it doesn't matter. The hot toys Venom is beautiful, and i'm sure this will be too.

 

[choombaz]

Who's getting this?

Yep, all in on any and all Spidey villains.

 

[hellgrammite00]

Who's getting this?

I just don't need a Thanos sized Carnage. Otherwise it looks good, but I think it speaks to how juvenile the movie was that they thought they had to make carnage 10 feet tall to seem badass. Otherwise I think the figure looks pretty good.

 

[RTFLYER]

I like it personally...

 

[Blackout]

I just don't need a Thanos sized Carnage. Otherwise it looks good, but I think it speaks to how juvenile the movie was that they thought they had to make carnage 10 feet tall to seem badass. Otherwise I think the figure looks pretty good.

The movie was indeed quite juvenile, more-so than the first, but I didn't have a problem with his height. There's plenty for me to complain about but height isn't really one of them.

We all know Carnage is traditionally leaner than Venom, usually with comparable height. However both have had variable and inconsistent height in the comics in years past. Sometimes Venom gets a lot beefier, sometimes Carnage gets a lot taller. It's really up to the story/artist. In some recent comics Carnage has become quite a bit taller than Venom.

So ultimately, I would say while it is not *typical* for Carnage to be so tall, it is not that outlandish either. The height is more open to interpretation, I don't take issue with it. Movie Carnage's overall build still appears stringier/leaner than Venom's smooth bulk, so they got the most important aspect of his build right. His personality on the other hand...

 

[hellgrammite00]

The movie was indeed quite juvenile, more-so than the first, but I didn't have a problem with his height. There's plenty for me to complain about but height isn't really one of them.

We all know Carnage is traditionally leaner than Venom, usually with comparable height. However both have had variable and inconsistent height in the comics in years past. Sometimes Venom gets a lot beefier, sometimes Carnage gets a lot taller. It's really up to the story/artist. In some recent comics Carnage has become quite a bit taller than Venom.

So ultimately, I would say while it is not *typical* for Carnage to be so tall, it is not that outlandish either. The height is more open to interpretation, I don't take issue with it. Movie Carnage's overall build still appears stringier/leaner than Venom's smooth bulk, so they got the most important aspect of his build right. His personality on the other hand...

Sure, overtime characters change size, sometimes becoming over 100 feet tall in some instances (Demogoblin.) Heck, we had a blue Electro in the films, so nothing is outlandish anymore. I guess I am attached to Carnage from the 1990s and 2000s, and want a figure that matches that to me. I get people mix scales of figures together as well without much issue. If carnage was the same height as venom, I could make that work for sure in a display. But a nearly 1/4 scale carnage just doesn't fit my 1/6 collection. Some people don't mind, and I think its still a cool figure, just not something I need to compromise on to get.

Really its the movies fault, but I guess they already had a carnage like villain in Venom1, so they had to add several feet in height to make Carnage stand out a bit more. People want to get this that is cool, just noting when asked that I was going to skip it.

 

[faker]

I'm starting to slowly accept that this probably be the only shot at a top quality 1/6th Carnage figure. I'll just have to deal with the height, but that price tag is still hard to swallow. I certainly want all the Spidey villains I can get. But I won't budge on not getting a Venom until that spider symbol is on him and has to look pretty close to the comic.

This honestly, I can't afford him now, but I'll try when I do. It's a shame too because if he was just AS TALL AS VENOM or slightly taller than a regular hot toys, he would be perfect, and cheaper. I don't understand why they chose to make him this way. If SooSoo toys makes a comic carnage nearly this good without teh silicon like this one did away with, I will jump on that.

They did that venoim after all, didn't they?

 

[hellgrammite00]

This honestly, I can't afford him now, but I'll try when I do. It's a shame too because if he was just AS TALL AS VENOM or slightly taller than a regular hot toys, he would be perfect, and cheaper. I don't understand why they chose to make him this way. If SooSoo toys makes a comic carnage nearly this good without teh silicon like this one did away with, I will jump on that.

They did that venoim after all, didn't they?

I would not be shocked to see a comic accurate Carnage 1/6 get announced and possibly even released before the HT one by a TP. Having a comic book character get a big movie release is only going to encourage more versions of them, especially with spider-man and his villains very popular right now.