1/6 Indy Customizations: Image Thread

[Pixelpiper]

In terms of sculptors that can do Indy, Trevor is the only one that has truly nailed him.

I guess you haven't seen the sculpts here on the forum that weren't produced by Grove then. A talented artist can sculpt anything and anyone, they aren't limited to a specific likeness. One may become comfortable with a particular likeness if that's all that's being done for a long period of time, but I spent enough years in university fine arts and have met and worked with enough talented individuals over the years to assert this with utmost confidence. Maybe Kim can't sculpt anyone other than Bruce Lee - I don't know, but to try and say this is a blanket problem with (all) artists is about as far away from the truth as one can be.

Some talented artists can't capture anyone's likeness, so don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that a head sculpt should be a slam dunk for everyone. Also, under valuing the input and significance of an art director only says that the commenter doesn't have experience in professional circles. The team makes a world of difference.

Agree or don't agree, but the issue of missing the mark in likeness is not isolated to one HT sculptor nor product. It happens regularly and I don't expect it to change in the future as it's somewhat obvious it's part of the culture of the company.

One also shouldn't confuse sculpture with production manufacturing, as it's plainly obvious how wrong any great sculpt can go if it's been mishandled for manufacturing.

 

[Pixelpiper]

That's true, but, it's a hobby for them and not a job. When it becomes a job, the love of the subject, which is what drives them, tends to lessen and the work suffers as a result.

I don't know all the folks personally, but I do know from what some of them have written that they are employed full time doing this kind of work, it's not just a hobby. There are a lot of folks here with many different employment situations.

 

[matj007]

I agree with Rogerbee on this one. Arnie was wrong for the project and the poor implementation of PERS were the final nail in it's coffin.

Agree totally. HT knew they only had Arnie Kim for a short period so tried to maximise his status by giving him high profile projects. He did a great job on Reeve, but a poor one on Indy that could have been down to time constraints.

His Pacino sculpts clearly show he's not solely a Bruce Lee guy.

 

[Pixelpiper]

Agree totally. HT knew they only had Arnie Kim for a short period so tried to maximise his status by giving him high profile projects. He did a great job on Reeve, but a poor one on Indy that could have been down to time constraints. His Pacino sculpts clearly show he's not solely a Bruce Lee guy.

So in fact you don't agree. The others are saying that Arnie Kim is incapable of sculpting Harrison Ford, whereas you're quite reasonable in proposing time constraint issues. Maybe the sculpt was a first pass and he wasn't available for a second. Instead of having another sculptor finish it off HT approved it. Who knows. Bottom line is that someone at Hot Toys approved it and decided they wanted that sculpt as their showcase Deluxe Indy.

 

[Rogerbee]

I guess you haven't seen the sculpts here on the forum that weren't produced by Grove then. A talented artist can sculpt anything and anyone, they aren't limited to a specific likeness. One may become comfortable with a particular likeness if that's all that's being done for a long period of time, but I spent enough years in university fine arts and have met and worked with enough talented individuals over the years to assert this with utmost confidence. Maybe Kim can't sculpt anyone other than Bruce Lee - I don't know, but to try and say this is a blanket problem with (all) artists is about as far away from the truth as one can be.

Some talented artists can't capture anyone's likeness, so don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that a head sculpt should be a slam dunk for everyone. Also, under valuing the input and significance of an art director only says that the commenter doesn't have experience in professional circles. The team makes a world of difference.

Agree or don't agree, but the issue of missing the mark in likeness is not isolated to one HT sculptor nor product. It happens regularly and I don't expect it to change in the future as it's somewhat obvious it's part of the culture of the company.

One also shouldn't confuse sculpture with production manufacturing, as it's plainly obvious how wrong any great sculpt can go if it's been mishandled for manufacturing.

Yes, I have seen Trevor's other work and he is very talented. He also did most of them for himself and not for companies so he could take the time to get them right. He could also find someone that would cast them properly.

As for missing the mark, when you look at promos compared to production, it's often very easy to see where the fault lies.

 

[matj007]

I have wondered whether Ford himself hasn't approved his likeness to be used by Hot Toys? Their Han Solo looks absolutely nothing like him either.

It's pure conjecture, but given the quality of Kim's other work, I'd say it was a rush job.

 

[Rogerbee]

Maybe Harrison has, his eyes may not be what they used to be though. Arnie could have given HT the Indy he did as a **** you for not giving Bruce to him. He may have already done Supes before he went to HT and they could have bought it off him. Just conjecture as you rightly say...

 

[Pixelpiper]

At the end of the day Voodoo dolls don't look precisely like their subjects, but they still work.

We do have to be thankful to HT for this thread however.

Another 2 cents: Every figure can be improved with modification. But not every figure will be improved with every modification.

 

[matj007]

My back! [emoji6]

 

[Rogerbee]

At the end of the day Voodoo dolls don't look precisely like their subjects, but they still work.

That's because they contain something from their intended victim, like blood or hair.

Anyhow, the Hoth Han is out now and that looks pretty decent in terms of sculpting, less so with paint, but it's boding ever more well for Indy. Let's face it, a lot of SSC sculpts are going to be repainted anyway.

 

[Pixelpiper]

That's because they contain something from their intended victim, like blood or hair.

Shhhhhhhhh...

 

[Rorywan]

My back! [emoji6]

Is that a broken cathode sabre being plunged into that doll?

 

[Rorywan]

I guess you haven't seen the sculpts here on the forum that weren't produced by Grove then. A talented artist can sculpt anything and anyone, they aren't limited to a specific likeness. One may become comfortable with a particular likeness if that's all that's being done for a long period of time, but I spent enough years in university fine arts and have met and worked with enough talented individuals over the years to assert this with utmost confidence. Maybe Kim can't sculpt anyone other than Bruce Lee - I don't know, but to try and say this is a blanket problem with (all) artists is about as far away from the truth as one can be.

Some talented artists can't capture anyone's likeness, so don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that a head sculpt should be a slam dunk for everyone. Also, under valuing the input and significance of an art director only says that the commenter doesn't have experience in professional circles. The team makes a world of difference.

Agree or don't agree, but the issue of missing the mark in likeness is not isolated to one HT sculptor nor product. It happens regularly and I don't expect it to change in the future as it's somewhat obvious it's part of the culture of the company.

One also shouldn't confuse sculpture with production manufacturing, as it's plainly obvious how wrong any great sculpt can go if it's been mishandled for manufacturing.

Nope. You are incorrect. Having done an honors degree in sculpture myself, I can say that with some assurance. Be off with you. An "art director" doesn't make a sculptor sculpt better, no one can do that, they can only provide reference material and a direction in which they want the sculpt to go. They give feedback, that's all. That's year one basics in any art college.

 

[matj007]

Is that a broken cathode sabre being plunged into that doll?
[emoji38]

That was my response when I opened my HT Indy and saw the headsculpt [emoji6]

 

[Vaughn34]

I don't know maybe I'm crazy...but I love the HT sculpt...Here's what I see & this is straight out of the box. (Note: Mine was from the 3rd or 4th shipment)

 

[matj007]

I don't know maybe I'm crazy...but I love the HT sculpt...Here's what I see & this is straight out of the box. (Note: Mine was from the 3rd or 4th shipment)

Glad your happy. It's all down to personal perception. It's definitely not for me, though. Ended up selling mine. Hoping the new SS sculpt is more to my taste.

 

[matrix69]

I don't know maybe I'm crazy...but I love the HT sculpt...Here's what I see & this is straight out of the box. (Note: Mine was from the 3rd or 4th shipment)

Good man, enough of all the negativity ! Under natural lighting and properly posed it's not that bad at all. There's a few of us crazy ones around

 

[Pixelpiper]

Good man, enough of all the negativity ! Under natural lighting and properly posed it's not that bad at all. There's a few of us crazy ones around

You don't have to be crazy to love DX05 and even appreciate and like the sculpt - I do too. You just have to be crazy to think it looks like (a spot-on) Harrison Ford.

 

[matrix69]

You don't have to be crazy to love DX05 and even appreciate and like the sculpt - I do too. You just have to be crazy to think it looks like (a spot-on) Harrison Ford.

No one is that crazy,then again you never know That's a fantastic indy diorama you've made,very impressive!

 

[Prime Clone]

HT's Indy arouses the same level of irrational over-the-top hatred as the SW prequels!