1/6 Indy Customizations: Image Thread

[Chad Man]

Indeed, there will be a hatted and unhatted version.

Hell yeah


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[matj007]

Small run customs will always be more.....they aren't made in a big factory like hot toys so they can make em as cheap.

Of course, there's an element of the exclusivity and limited nature of the items that your paying for that holds its own appeal to some collectors that justifies to them the cost. Could they sell these customs considerably cheaper than they are and still make a decent profit? Of course, but why should they. You play to your market and get the best price you can - that's capitalism, folks! I'm not criticising the makers or those that purchase their wares, just pointing out why it's not for me.

 

[IndianaPaul]

That's great. Thanks for doing this!

 

[Chad Man]

Small run customs will always be more.....they aren't made in a big factory like hot toys so they can make em as cheap.

My thoughts exactly. When things are mass produced figures will cost less . Supply and demand .


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[batfan08]

It's all down to the individual. Personally, my financial situation means I have to justify every purchase. For example, although HT's GOTG figures look great, I'd never buy them because the film doesn't mean that much to me. So I don't ever buy figures that I 'kinda like', as you put it. I'd love to own both of the McClane and Indy custom headsculpts, as they're both characters that mean a lot to me, but there's no way I could justify paying more than the cost of complete dx hot toys figure for just a head. I don't begrudge people that do, whatever makes them happy, it's just not for me. Clearly there are enough people who feel differently from me for customisers to be able to charge these prices.

I guess that's where we differ. To me, $250 is $250 is $250. DX or no DX, it's all going to the same place. I love Indy way more than, say, Star-Lord, as you put it. In truth, it is pricy, and I've got a **** ton on my plate that needs to be taken care of first before I can even think about it, but, once I do, I'll try my damnedest to get my hands on one.

 

[matj007]

I guess that's where we differ. To me, $250 is $250 is $250. DX or no DX, it's all going to the same place. I love Indy way more than, say, Star-Lord, as you put it. In truth, it is pricy, and I've got a **** ton on my plate that needs to be taken care of first before I can even think about it, but, once I do, I'll try my damnedest to get my hands on one.

From my point of view, I'm balancing a purchase both in terms of quality and quantity. In other words, does the item in question justify the price being asked. To me, this doesn't. That said, I can understand that for some, cost comes second to their desire to have an item in their collection.

 

[IndianaPaul]

To me, Indy has been my favorite character since I was a kid. I used to try and customize GI Joe figures to make a decent Indy to play with. Given that, factor in that I don't really collect much of anything else, add in the incredibly awesome Indy sculpt (where other companies have failed miserably including Hot Toys who should be ashamed), throw in a high-quality paint job, and it all totals up to a big yes for me. But everybody is different and will weigh things differently like you said.

 

[cmiller99]

I'm really looking forwards to pics of the Indy head! I'll probably get the DX05 and stick the MJ head on it. This'll be something special.

 

[batfan08]

I'm really looking forwards to pics of the Indy head! I'll probably get the DX05 and stick the MJ head on it. This'll be something special.

That's pretty much exactly what I would want to do, as well. It's a solid release when you ignore the headsculpt.

 

[davejames]

Wow, just saw that Indy everyone's talking about, and it looks freakin amazing. Don't know that I'd really want to spend $250 or so even on the perfect Indy head, but I definitely look forward to seeing what the final product looks like.

 

[blackops74]

Indeed, there will be a hatted and unhatted version.

I will be keen for both. Cant wait to put together my first ever Indy! 80 figures in my collection and I don't have my favourite character of all time...

 

[bbl]

That marfmaster sculpt looks very promising. Very interested. Still recovering from wgp's effort


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[Pixelpiper]

From my point of view, I'm balancing a purchase both in terms of quality and quantity.

The first thing to keep in mind is that this (and whatever else limited and hand-made piece) is a piece of art, not a mass-produced product. That doesn't mean it has to be worth something to you of course, but you can see how it might have tremendous worth to someone else.

 

[matj007]

The first thing to keep in mind is that this (and whatever else limited and hand-made piece) is a piece of art, not a mass-produced product. That doesn't mean it has to be worth something to you of course, but you can see how it might have tremendous worth to someone else.

But does that mean that the best Hot Toys sculpt is less of a piece of art when it's mass produced, even it matches or even exceeds a custom in terms of likeness and paint apps? All sculpts require an artist / team of artists to produce them, so by definition they're all pieces of art.

 

[Pixelpiper]

But does that mean that the best Hot Toys sculpt is less of a piece of art when it's mass produced, even it matches or even exceeds a custom in terms of likeness and paint apps?

Absolutely. Art isn't defined by how something looks.

All sculpts require an artist / team of artists to produce them, so by definition they're all pieces of art.

Sorry, that couldn't be further from the truth. There's nothing artistic about a mass-produced piece coming off an assembly line, even if human hands have touched it for part of the process.

 

[matj007]

Absolutely. Art isn't defined by how something looks.



Sorry, that couldn't be further from the truth. There's nothing artistic about a mass-produced piece coming off an assembly line, even if human hands have touched it for part of the process.

But these custom heads aren't sculpted any differently from any other. They'll be a master from which a cast is made and all the rest will be moulded from the cast. They'll then be hand painted, exactly how HT heads are produced. The artistry is in the crafting of the initial sculpt, not in the production process. Therefore, a headsculpt by Yulli for HT is no less a work of art than these customs.

 

[Pixelpiper]

the rest will be moulded from the cast. They'll then be hand painted, exactly how HT heads are produced.

Hot toys doesn't produce their sculpt like that. Do you think there's one person sitting in a warehouse somewhere at HT HQ casting heads by hand in silicone moulds and then one person painting all of them by hand?

No one is saying that you should personally place value on a custom made piece, but by saying these kinds of things, you're being somewhat insulting to the people responsible for the work.

 

[matj007]

I'm not trying to undermine the artistry and commitment it takes for these customs to be produced. I admire what they do. Its just, as I've said before, what they charge is not for me. If you think it's reasonable for a single headsculpt to be $250 and over, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

 

[Pixelpiper]

Its just, as I've said before, what they charge is not for me.

Then no one knows what you're arguing about, because other people, as well as myself, have already essentially said that art is in the eye of the beholder and the concept of worth placed on something by a particular person is completely subjective. In fact I've said it multiple times.

If you think it's reasonable for a single headsculpt to be $250 and over, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

This however is not something I've said. I won't make an argument about how reasonable the price is, that's completely irrelevant. The seller asks the price they want. I've simply been trying to point out that comparing a custom piece of art to a mass-produced copy is apples and oranges. Bricks and sticks. Whatever analogy you want to use.

 

[matj007]

Then no one knows what you're arguing about, because other people, as well as myself, have already essentially said that art is in the eye of the beholder and the concept of worth placed on something by a particular person is completely subjective. In fact I've said it multiple times.



This however is not something I've said. I won't make an argument about how reasonable the price is, that's completely irrelevant. The seller asks the price they want. I've simply been trying to point out that comparing a custom piece of art to a mass-produced copy is apples and oranges. Bricks and sticks. Whatever analogy you want to use.

Cool, man. The validity of my opinion has no more or less worth than yours. But to reiterate, the artistry is in the crafting of the initial sculpt, not in the production process. Therefore, a headsculpt by Yulli for HT is no less a work of art than these customs.